Done asking for help

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I’m all done with asking for help

By Paul F. Murray

After reading the blog earlier today with the subhead “I exist to assist” and, more importantly, reading the multitude of comments in support of the basic premise of the article, I am all done with asking for help or advice from anyone in the Wealthy Affiliate community other than Kyle or Carson or one of their assistants at the Help Desk. I will no longer post questions for the community to answer. Nor will I be participating in chat any further.

Why am I saying this? Simply because by reading many of the comments (not all, but most)underneath that blog, I got the clear impression, and the clear message, that there are many, many members of the Wealthy Affiliate community (not everyone, but many, many) who consider it a severe imposition on their time to have to answer the questions that other (perhaps less experienced) WA members ask.

Find information on my own through online searches? I’ve done that in the past, and the results have sometimes been good, and at other times not good at all, just a lot of frustration.

I remember when I had to set up some sort of Google mechanism in order to provide Site Comments. It took me four days—FOUR DAYS—to figure out how to do something that would have taken me no than probably a few minutes if I had had someone to help me. If I have to stop and take several days to figure out something on my own that I don’t understand, it’s going to take me 10 years to complete this training. But then, so be it.

Then there was Google Analytics. I tried to figure how to set up a Google Analytics account on my own from the information Google provided, but I was NEVER able to figure it out—it was simply too complicated for me to understand what to do. I still don’t have a Google Analytics account because I don’t know how to do it. Having a Google Analytics account is pretty damn important for anyone having a website, but I am having to get by without one because I was unable to figure out how to set up a Google Analytics account. So I do need help at times. I hope that I can get it from the Help Desk. I don’t need another day like

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Hey Paul,

I'm sorry to hear you are frustrated. Please keep asking questions because it is how we all learn. Keep persevering. I will only answer questions when I am 100% sure of my answers as I do not want to lead anyone astray. To date, I have asked a little over 100 questions and have learned a ton of stuff and grateful for the members' help. If I am not satisfied, I will ask an ambassador I am following.

I'm here to help you any way I possibly can. I use Google Analytics but still know very little about it because I haven't spent much time on it. I will get familiar with it very soon.

Vitaliy sent a post yesterday announcing he is here to help us. He has a ton of knowledge and experience... check him out. I have also asked him a few of questions which he has had to explain in 'detail' because I was not understanding the information.


You can find him at VitaliyG or just copy and the URL below.... Here is what he says...

'Whatever questions you have on SEO, affiliate marketing, WA, ask it here. (you can ask him...) I do recommend that before you do, please make sure the questions/s you have, have not already been answered in a previous thread:

https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/vitaliyg/blog/ask-the-super-...

https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/vitaliyg/blog/ask-the-super-...

I hope this helps you, Paul. I will answer your questions if I feel confident with giving you my answers.

I wish you much success in your online business.

Regards,
Monica

Thank you to everyone who responded. I appreciate your comments and they have definitely brightened my day and my outlook. So a few people chose to be selfish and think only of themselves. Many others are more generous. Yes, that man was just one person, and he is under no obligation to answer anyone's questions if he feels that it is a burdensome chore.

I'm so sorry that you are frustrated and feeling like the Lone Stranger, Paul. I have not personally encountered anything except people responding to my questions with encouragement and links, or suggestions that I needed.

I, for one, would be happy to answer any questions you had if I knew the answers. I think there are probably more people in the community who feel that way than would agree with the post that upset you so much.

If someone feels put upon to answer questions, then they should in my opinion just ignore the questions and go on with their own work. There's nothing that I know of that requires a person to get involved with any questions if they don't want to do so.

I am very low tech, and a lot of the time I have difficulty assimilating the training until I have had time to work with it some.
Much of my frustration comes when I can't figure out how to find the screen Kyle is talking about. I am using Windows 7 instead of 10, and don't know if that makes a difference or not.

I had a serious problem with my Site Content not publishing my post after I had edited it and added the images. I was so frustrated, I considered quitting because I just kept going in circles, and Site Support was giving me answers that I did not understand because I am not computer savvy. Finally, they told me to just do my editing in WordPress, and that solved my problem.

I hope the responses you've received to your post help you realize that the one that upset you is just one person out of thousands who would help you if you requested it. Please don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, Paul. The post that upset you so much is just one person's opinion, and there are many more positive, helpful people within the community who will gladly give you help if you need it.

Carol

Why would you sabotage your own progress just because some members don't want to answer questions? There are plenty of members who help generously and give of their time without minding. It seems back to front to me, to give up asking because of one post with comments that you've read.

Of course we should be grateful and considerate to the people who comment or answer our questions, but if you withdraw completely and refuse to interact you're denying the whole community aspect of WA.

I really don't understand why you would do that... and I hope you find a happier way to approach the doubts you have.

Wishing you all the best of success and progress,
Soraya :)

Paul, I am not sure what blog you are referring to. Why not to give a link - so, that we, who are reading your blog, could read and understand better what you are referring to...

I noticed that some people here prefer to ask questions and others prefer to answer. It often has nothing to do with the ability to comprehend the course material and prior knowledge, but rather with the personalities: those, who prefer to answer learn better while teaching others ;)

I personally rarely ask question, but if I am stuck, I do. My questions are never easy to answer because when I ask, I ask about something I encountered out of "normal" rather than a course material. WA community always reacted to my questions almost immediately. People may not know an answer, but they point out where to search for it: not just general "google it", but they would suggest links to the appropriate forums or authority sites.

I used to spend more time here in WA community and personally answered lots of questions. I never mind answering a question if I see that the person had done his part - read the course material, watched the video, tried to search in our WA search box for an additional help, but still didn't get the answer. It takes time to answer even the simplest question. Many things that I just do without even thinking, I need to look up in order to give correct and detailed instructions to someone else.

I set my site with the Google Analytics long time ago. Then, I helped several people to set it up - each next question was weeks or even months apart from the previous. It means that in order to describe the process accurately, I have to go myself through the whole process again. I don't mind doing it for a person who put some effort into figuring it out on his/her own before asking. The question coming from someone, who is simply lazy to read and re-read and likes making others work for him/her for free would sound differently than from a person who tried first, knows the overall process by heart, but gets stuck somewhere on the way, and needs some clarification on a particular issue in order to keep moving forward. Don't you agree? In your example with the Google Analytics, tell me where in the process you get stuck, and I will gladly help you figure out how to resolve your issue. However, if you ask me to walk you through the process of setting up your website with GA, I'd probably suggest that you take the lesson first and come back with the precise question. Does it make sense?

So, I agree and disagree with the comments you are describing (I wish I could read them myself to be sure that I understand correctly). One doesn't need to spend days trying to resolve an issue solo before asking WA community for help. However, one does need to spend hours of his own time working on the issue before asking other people to contribute their time.

By the way, before writing here to you that I wish you gave us a link to the blog you are referring to, I did run "I exist to assist" in the search box above. Nothing was returned.

I advise to continue asking WA community for help when you really get stuck. Don't request other people's time for something that won't take you too long to figure out on your own. I hope this makes sense. I personally find WA community very helpful and altruistic. Some people spent more of their time answering my questions than I could ever be comfortable asking for if I knew in advance.

Good luck!

~ Julia


P.S. I found the original blog. Thank you, Marion for mentioning Mel :) I was partially guessing when replying to Paul here, but reading Mel's post only confirmed my assumption.

Hi Jewella, this might help. Sonny

Hey Paul, I totally understand your frustrations. However, remember there are over a million people in the WA community. For every person that replied to that post with a tone of resentment, there are 10 others that will gladly help.

I know I don't have the time to post blogs and answer questions all day,. Heck it takes what seems like forever just to read the new blogs and questions that post each day by every one else. So, I just do what i can. If i have some insight or feel i can respond with something beneficial i will, and will do so gladly.

Never be afraid to ask a question to the community, that is what Kyle and Carson developed this system for...it is a community that is here to help and support when and if they can.

To those that feel resentful because they feel they "have to" help some one, maybe they shouldn't try to help. Questions are not asked with the intent to make someone resent having to help or answer.

Are there those that will take advantage of people, and trying to just get by doing as little as possible...yes, absolutely, and without a doubt. However, there is always a price for taking shortcuts, and taking advantage of others.

There is a difference between asking question or seeking help and taking advantage of someone. I know when I am asking a question if there is a resource out there to utilize, that is all I'm needing. I don't want to not do the work, that is how you learn. The key is not having to sort though countless post or articles searching for an answer. You want to simple be pointed in the right direction.

Don't give up on the WA community....we are here to help...that what the community is for...just ask Kyle and Carson

That is such a shame. I have noticed that some people do treat answering questions like it is some sort of burden even though they do it of their own volition.

People really should be more understanding. There is a lot of information out there but oftentimes it really is conflicting and confusing. Even worst, there is a lot of outdated information because of the constant change in technology.

There are some very helpful people- you will notice them helping out in the comments a lot. Honestly, for me, my biggest help has been the person who brought me to WA. His advice is very solid and I can talk to him in private messages rather than blasting my issues everywhere. However, you do not seem to have someone like that (I did not see such a person in your feed- usually they will be one of the first to welcome you).

If I were to give you any advice (completely unsolicited advice at that!) I would say that you should look around and find out who is successful. Look for people who have good and established websites. Then see if they are helpful in the community. Really judge them because not everyone out there is good.

If you find someone that seems good, approach them and ask if they will help with your questions in the private messages.

There are people out there who are willing to help. I am sure that you can find them!!!

There are lots of ways you can find stuff at Wealthy Affiliate The issue Mel raised is not about needing help understanding some of the lessons. I think it's just that people are a little tired of new members expecting to have the work done for them.

Work is one thing. Every member has to do their own work. If they dont success doesnt come.Answering questions is a whole other ball of wax. Thats what we're here for. To help each other. I get to the point myself where im geez dude just do some damn research... I figured it out! At the same time we have to temper that judgement with a mindset....None of us know everything and a lot of us are geared different and grasp certain concepts faster. I encourage everyone to take the time to help the next person. #HCILYT Follow me on Twitter @BeyondBoxReality.com How Can I Love you Today?

If I can't help someone from my own experience I try to point them in the right direction.

You are awesome and on point! Thank you so much. You rock! Keep helping people here. Seems we've lost a little bit of that community experience and it takes people like you to keep it on track. Helping the next man we ALL succeed. If anyone sees this and is interested @BeyondBoxReality on twitter. Leave your own handle and we will follow or hit us up on Twitter! We love you all!

You are always so wonderful about responding to my questions and pointing me where to go when I get lost. Thanks so much for all your help, Marion.
Carol

Same here. At times I'm not sure how to answer so I try to point the right way also.

Hey brother! I havent been on in a while but my wife set ours up and Ima talk to her tom and see if she remembers.. I know its frustrating at times. Keep plugging. Keep learning. Even the setbacks are learning experiences... So in essence you cant lose as long as you dont quit. We have several sites making us revenue now and it wasnt easy. It took a lot of time and effort. DONT QUIT and dont stop asking questions. The ones who dont answer screw them. Ask anyway till you get the answer. Lesson? Persistence.

Great Comment. It is getting tough sometimes... but we have to make a plan to resolve the issues occurring and move forward

That's a great way to encourage, and yes, you're absolutely right, ever give up.

RitaAnn~

I'm sorry that you are frustrated. Jay's webinars have always been very helpful and there is one on Google Analytics. If this helps you then great.

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