The question mark by the traffic number says "for achieving page 1" I am being told that it is an avg over a month? Is that true? I thought it was the average of people that a
It's not referring to the average number of people who achieve page 1 rankings, it's a guesstimate referring to the number of visits your website will get in a month if you're on page 1. It goes hand in hand with the "Avg" column which is average number of searches per month.
I understand all of what you are saying I just wonder why the word is "achieve" in the Jaxxy explanation
Onward n upward
Achieving page 1 rankings means your post is listed on page 1. That's an achievement. So the number for that column is a guesstimate of how many hits your website can get per month if you've achieved page 1 ranking. It's always going to be less than the average searches per month.
It is not an estimate of how many will achieve page 1 rankings.
I am so sorry you are confused lol. I personally think that I know that you must achieve page one to get the traffic. No where in any of the Jaxxy or WA training are the words "a month" when referring to traffic or explaining that. When using that reference newbies are assuming that if they use that keyword they will get that many visitors a month. So if you are right about the month can you please direct me to where you got that information and if you are just assuming that it is ok to just say it.
And I guess I worded that question wrong I am sorry I did mean the average number of visitors that the people that achieve page 1 get not the average of the people that achieve page 1.
onward n upward
If a keyword is showing Avg of 144 and Traffic of 25, that's telling you that out of the 144 monthly searches, potentially 25 of those monthly searches are clicking on your post if you're on page one. I think that's pretty straightforward.
So with those numbers of 144/25 let's say you rank somewhere in the middle of page 1 and get 15 hits one month, then 20 the next, then 30 the next, then 18, and so on...
That would be great. When you're doing this for countless articles that's exactly how you build solid traffic and authority. Let's say you write another article that doesn't make it to page 1 but lands in the middle of page 2. It could be getting you 8 or 9 hits one month, then 12 another, and so on.
Traffic doesn't just stop at page 1.
If a newbie thinks he or she is "guaranteed" a certain number of hits per month they'd obviously be misunderstanding the data. There are no guarantees.
All in all the values given in Jaaxy are simply estimates of data to give us a leg up on ranking.
Good luck, brother!
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Is the number reflected under traffic in jaxxy an average over a month?
The question mark by the traffic number says "for achieving page 1" I am being told that it is an avg over a month? Is that true? I thought it was the average of people that a
Hey man,
Check out Jay's training video here at around 11 to 12 minutes in: Keyword Comprehension
It's not referring to the average number of people who achieve page 1 rankings, it's a guesstimate referring to the number of visits your website will get in a month if you're on page 1. It goes hand in hand with the "Avg" column which is average number of searches per month.
I understand all of what you are saying I just wonder why the word is "achieve" in the Jaxxy explanation
Onward n upward
Achieving page 1 rankings means your post is listed on page 1. That's an achievement. So the number for that column is a guesstimate of how many hits your website can get per month if you've achieved page 1 ranking. It's always going to be less than the average searches per month.
It is not an estimate of how many will achieve page 1 rankings.
I am so sorry you are confused lol. I personally think that I know that you must achieve page one to get the traffic. No where in any of the Jaxxy or WA training are the words "a month" when referring to traffic or explaining that. When using that reference newbies are assuming that if they use that keyword they will get that many visitors a month. So if you are right about the month can you please direct me to where you got that information and if you are just assuming that it is ok to just say it.
And I guess I worded that question wrong I am sorry I did mean the average number of visitors that the people that achieve page 1 get not the average of the people that achieve page 1.
onward n upward
If a keyword is showing Avg of 144 and Traffic of 25, that's telling you that out of the 144 monthly searches, potentially 25 of those monthly searches are clicking on your post if you're on page one. I think that's pretty straightforward.
So with those numbers of 144/25 let's say you rank somewhere in the middle of page 1 and get 15 hits one month, then 20 the next, then 30 the next, then 18, and so on...
That would be great. When you're doing this for countless articles that's exactly how you build solid traffic and authority. Let's say you write another article that doesn't make it to page 1 but lands in the middle of page 2. It could be getting you 8 or 9 hits one month, then 12 another, and so on.
Traffic doesn't just stop at page 1.
If a newbie thinks he or she is "guaranteed" a certain number of hits per month they'd obviously be misunderstanding the data. There are no guarantees.
All in all the values given in Jaaxy are simply estimates of data to give us a leg up on ranking.
Good luck, brother!
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This is just a thought about the Site comments platform. Maybe a system like a TOC that has to be read before you can start using the system that gives the basic protocol for a
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I have been booted out of 2 email autoresponder programs due to violating the terms about affiliate marketing. How are you guys getting around that? Or does anyone have a sugge
Hi, I saw one of your websites, "The New Gold Rush is the GREEN RUSH!" and that could be the reason they will not allow you to promote, if that is the one.
Joe
No it was the bestinternetwork site! so that kills that theory.
By the way everything I promote on usagreenrush.com is totally legal in all 50 states!
Although at this point my list for the green rush site is 3 times the size of the one for bestinternetwork
Why don't you comment ob one of my articles if you happen to disagree, I have always loved a lively discussion!
http://usagreenrush.com
Your best use for your email autoresponder is get people to your website to see what is new. Many make the mistake of trying to sell or affiliate market in the emails they send. Many, if not all email responders have a spam filter. In addition to that, if you have an individual that marks the email that you sent as spam, that gets back to the autoresponder and it counts against you.
One of the best ways to use email is to guide traffic rather than sell to traffic. That is what your website is suppose to do.
Just send short emails to your list with links to your site. Depending on the content matter, I'll use washing clothes as a hypothetical:
Hey (First name),
I found this great new way to get cleaner clothes in less time using less water. It not only saves me time, but lowers my water bill.
Check out my post (insert link here).
I just wanted to share this great find.
All the best (or your favorite closing),
(your name)
(your website with internal link)
Now......this would not be considered SPAM due to the nature of the email leading to a blog link on your website. When they click that, it takes them to the page, and that is where they will see your affiliate link.
Email (with autoresponders) is only suppose to have informational content. Autoresponders like Aweber guard this tightly so they don't lose credibility and are filtered out.
I hope this helps.
Greg
I agree with you! My last experience with Mailchimp I did not even get to send an email. The booted me because of the affiliate nature of my website was their reason.
That doesn't make sense. There service isn't supposed to based on your site, but how you use their service. Maybe Awebber might be a better fit.
Here's a screenshot from their terms that they cited!
They maybe changed the protocol since you signed up?
Thanks! I stopped by the truckers health site and reciprocated!
You are doing great with that site!
dennis
Interesting. Well, I guess Mailchimp is really going to limit themselves as a business, because there are many in the Affiliate Marketing arena.
I agree and do not want to be deceptive when using a service. 4 years ago while running a physical products eCommerce site I sent a mail to subscribers with an affiliate link to an MLM and got booted from Get response LOL
Still contemplating what to do?????????
Dennis
Wow I just looked at Aweber and can't find the terms excluding affiliates that I saw there a couple months ago when I had the mailchimp fiasco. So after much contemplation I may have just found my solution!
Thank you so much for giving me incentive to look again.! I will let you know if it works out!
Dennis
I use Mailerlite. However, I don't put affiliate links on my emails. I wonder how you're putting the links. If you're using clickbait, I can see you getting banned. Typically, people expect to click to your website when they click on a link, especially if that link is a word or phrase.
One thing you might consider, which is similar to what's been instructed in the training is to send them to a page on your website. Within the page, you'd include your affiliate links.
Another thing that comes to mind with the affiliate links is you're probably not including a disclaimer in your emails. The training specifically shows you how to put a disclaimer on your website for affiliate links. If you're not including one in your email but including affiliate links, that might be a problem also.
Bottom line is, don't try to trick people into clicking your affiliate links. Play it right. Be transparent.
i have a disclaimer on my website and Mailchimp booted me because of website content I never got to send an email
I don't know. Others aren't having that problem. I have a disclaimer on my website. I've used mailchimp and mailerlite and haven't had a problem. As I'm said, I'm not hiding affiliate links in my email either. My links send them to my website or products/services I've created myself. For example, it might send them to videos I've done... always to free stuff.
I checked out your disclaimer. It says you recommend the items you're marketing and you've tried them out. Maybe they doubt your claim.
My disclaimer doesn't say I recommend anything. It simply says I'm a affiliated with the products/services and may receive payments if they use the links.
If you haven't gone through the bootcamps, I HIGHLY recommend completing at least one. It's a service you paid for and there's lots of good information in it.
I am currently finishing the Bootcamp.
I have that in my disclaimer because I only recommend things in my articles that I have tried. I don;t believe you can truly review something without trying it??
I see the people claiming WA to be a scam citing the practice of reviewing things w/o trying to be a major complaint.
Trying to be transparent because this is a viable business.
See the others having the same problems below.
I looked over your site and don't see any affiliate links so comparison is not relative.
Thanks for your opinion though'
Dennis
I actually do have affiliate links on my website. It's just not a major portion of my business. My affiliate links are found in my software reviews. I also have adsense ads in majority of my posts.
I followed the certification course and put my affiliate links in the reviews. Then I link back relevant items to my reviews, which is also in the certification training. Once in a while, I might include an affiliate link in a special post, but that's rare. I don't recommend products nor do I tell people not to purchase products. I simply share my opinion of a product and let them decide for themselves.
You'll see my reviews are pretty thorough with screenshots in most cases. Here are some examples: http://backboneamerica.com/productservice-reviews. I have not reviewed WA on my website, nor do I have any WA affiliate links. Despite having a great training program, WA doesn't fit my niche of growing startup businesses, so it's irrelevant to my website.
It's unfortunate you're discounting my thoughts because you didn't see affiliate links. What I will say is I'm not banned from any mail services, I have an adsense account, and Amazon allows me to advertise for them.
I followed the certification program, step-by-step without jumping ahead. My understanding is the main difference between the certification program and the affiliate bootcamp is the affiliate bootcamp focuses on promoting WA. Whereas the certification program focuses on promoting a niche of your choice.
My suggestion is follow one of the programs (certification training of affiliate bootcamp) to get up and running. If you follow the program step-by-step, you shouldn't find yourself being banned from venues.
I was not discounting your thoughts. Sorry if I gave you that impression. It was just that I am trying to be honest in my endeavors here.
I am following the training in the Bootcamp and have had success already with my MMO website and also with my other niche site.
You are correct in your understanding of the differences in the courses!
I have been marketing on the web since 1995 and have had some success.
Affiliate marketing is new to me since August 2016. I had a great list years ago but my sites success was built on reciprocal and back links and crashed in 2014 with the google penguin update.
Have you had any affiliate success with your site?
Thanks for the connection and all your thoughts.
Dennis
I've had varying success. Not nearly as much as I'd like. Certainly not enough to make a living.
One thing for sure, I didn't define my niche nearly as well as I could have, particularly in the beginning. A lot of the traffic I'm receiving isn't really my area of focus. I've been trying to remedy that. In doing so, I'm not concentrating on affiliate marketing though. I think a lot of the principles for affiliate marketing still apply though.
Personally, I think the training is a good start. However, I think it takes a lot more than just going through the training to be successful at affiliate marketing.
For example, you're working on list building. I don't know if affiliate bootcamp addresses list building. Unless things have changed, I'm sure the certified training doesn't. In fact, Kyle mentioned not worry about list building early on... concentrate on building your website traffic through good content.
Personally, I think list building should be one of the early steps. It's been addressed in user Q&A and I believe in Jay's videos. However, it's not part of the certified training, at least it wasn't. You're already trying to share products with your list. If you had a list of 1000 recommended a product and 20% clicked through to the offer, you're looking at 200. If 2% (which is a decent conversion rate) of those individuals found your product interesting enough to purchase, you'd have 4.
Still... I do links to the the reviews, rather than directly to the sale site.
Hi, I have been involved in affiliate marketing for over 20 years. I have used mailchimp, getresponse and aweber and never been booted off. My emails have always had affiliate links in them and never had a problem.
I am not sure whether the subscribers that you are sending to are people that signed up from forms on your web site who would be double optin if they have to confirm their email or you are importing purchased lists.
The only people that I have seen have a problem are those that import large lists that they have purchased. These lists create spam complaints since you are sending your info out to people that did not request it no matter what the company you purchased them from said. Most autoresponder companies will terminate your account if they get spam complaints. The only other time accounts might be terminated is if in fact you are promoting something on there restricted list.
I would be careful with using plugins and or getting your own autoresponder software. Most hosting companies have restrictions about mailing to large numbers of people since your site is probably on a shared hosting account and the more mailings you might do can slow down the access to other clients on the same server. I would also check with tech at wealthy affiliate to insure they had no problem with creating a large mailing list on the servers here.
I have my own autoresponder service for the last 15 years and have had to suspend many clients for violating the terms of service, mostly for spam complaints and or for promoting material that was not acceptable. We also do not allow the importing of purchased lists.
Hope that helps
Joe
I do not use paid lists at Mailchimp I imported addys I got from sumome listbuider on my site
I never got to send an email they claimed that the affiliate nature of my website was the reason.
I had a physical products website that get response canned me when I sent an email to 450 subscribers with an affiliate banner in it. so I am a little gun shy wasting my time setting up another one
Hi Joe,
In a position of having your own autoresponder service, there is no doubt that you have a lot of insight into what works and does not...
In that light, I have a question for you....What do you think of using external mail services for sending out the emails as opposed to the host provider?
There are a number of such providers, and the costs vary but all are not equal if you talk to users...The features can be attractive and when combined with a plugin can work...
What are the disadvantages to using such a system over a well-known AR such as AWeber or Get Response? I really would find your feedback helpful...
We are currently growing a list for customers of our e-commerce sites, and from time to time we will send out flyers, newsletters, etc. We are using a major AR service at the moment and having no issues...
In the interest of having more control (no banning or account deletions) over the long haul, I want to move to something that we can not worry about losing the leads arbitrarily...
Thanks in advance for your input!
Cheers!
Dave : )
The big guys use the main AR services and I get emails in all the time pushing this or that product....How are they getting away with this is a good question, because the rules are quite restrictive...I too send out info on offers to my list (I use AWeber)...Maybe it is the content in the emails you are sending?
A possible solution may be to get your own AR (there are plugins out there that work well) and then use a mail forwarding service to send out your emails? That solution will actually save you money over the cost of an AR service, and you have a lot more latitude in what you send....Still need to use the double opt-in though to cover yourself with the spam laws...
Let us know what direction you go in....Best of luck!
Cheers!
Dave : )
Wouldn't happen to know the name of those plugins and do they create the double optin or is that something you have to do yourself?
And I wonder if you purchase the top of the line packages from these guys they let you slide? A problem as i can't afford those right now LOL
I would get in trouble for listing them here, but I do know if you do a search using Google, using the term "best wordpress autoresponder plugin option" you will come up with some good pages to check out some options....Also here is a link that discusses options: http://c-point.com/3-best-autoresponder-plugins-for-wordpress/....Good luck! Cheers! Dave : )
wow that's awesome. I really appreciate. I knew if I kept digging I would find a good option. the discussion was good! ;-) It was a good tip. weell off to see if I can make it work
Dennis
Would you like to see the email I just sent out? Had no problems.
If you are interested you can take a look at it.
http://eepurl.com/cADy89
That's great I liked your email. Are you building your list from the website or did you have a list already?
When Mail chimp asked the nature of my business i answered affiliate marketing then it was out the door for me. I never even got to send a mail!
Did you buy the rights for The giveaway on your website?
Dennis
Both Mailchimp and GetResponse have restrictions against affiliate marketing in their ToS. GetResponse is supposedly harsher than MailChimp, but Mailchimp also have their own list of blacklisted domains that include a lot of merchants relevant to us, and they will shut you down if you link to one of those. (I have not seen the list so I can't say who they are).
Aweber is said to be safer for affiliate marketers but they also have spam rules that will be enforced if they find it necessary.
Getting subscribers from third party landing pages seems to be a big no-no for all three of them.
A lot of marketers use services like aweber and getresponse... one of the big boys is infusionsoft.
Mailchimp claimed it was my website not emails and they were referring to the mmo site. I never even got out an email there?
GR I was using from a ecommerce site and I posted an affiliate link in the email. So I been hit both ways. GR wouldn't even let me apologize hehehehe
Brutal! lol looks like aweber for you.. no mmo or direct affiliate links... living on the edge haha
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How do affiliate marketers get an email autoresponder?
I have been booted out of 2 email autoresponder programs due to violating the terms about affiliate marketing. How are you guys getting around that? Or does anyone have a sugge
Hi, I saw one of your websites, "The New Gold Rush is the GREEN RUSH!" and that could be the reason they will not allow you to promote, if that is the one.
Joe
No it was the bestinternetwork site! so that kills that theory.
By the way everything I promote on usagreenrush.com is totally legal in all 50 states!
Although at this point my list for the green rush site is 3 times the size of the one for bestinternetwork
Why don't you comment ob one of my articles if you happen to disagree, I have always loved a lively discussion!
http://usagreenrush.com
Your best use for your email autoresponder is get people to your website to see what is new. Many make the mistake of trying to sell or affiliate market in the emails they send. Many, if not all email responders have a spam filter. In addition to that, if you have an individual that marks the email that you sent as spam, that gets back to the autoresponder and it counts against you.
One of the best ways to use email is to guide traffic rather than sell to traffic. That is what your website is suppose to do.
Just send short emails to your list with links to your site. Depending on the content matter, I'll use washing clothes as a hypothetical:
Hey (First name),
I found this great new way to get cleaner clothes in less time using less water. It not only saves me time, but lowers my water bill.
Check out my post (insert link here).
I just wanted to share this great find.
All the best (or your favorite closing),
(your name)
(your website with internal link)
Now......this would not be considered SPAM due to the nature of the email leading to a blog link on your website. When they click that, it takes them to the page, and that is where they will see your affiliate link.
Email (with autoresponders) is only suppose to have informational content. Autoresponders like Aweber guard this tightly so they don't lose credibility and are filtered out.
I hope this helps.
Greg
I agree with you! My last experience with Mailchimp I did not even get to send an email. The booted me because of the affiliate nature of my website was their reason.
That doesn't make sense. There service isn't supposed to based on your site, but how you use their service. Maybe Awebber might be a better fit.
Here's a screenshot from their terms that they cited!
They maybe changed the protocol since you signed up?
Thanks! I stopped by the truckers health site and reciprocated!
You are doing great with that site!
dennis
Interesting. Well, I guess Mailchimp is really going to limit themselves as a business, because there are many in the Affiliate Marketing arena.
I agree and do not want to be deceptive when using a service. 4 years ago while running a physical products eCommerce site I sent a mail to subscribers with an affiliate link to an MLM and got booted from Get response LOL
Still contemplating what to do?????????
Dennis
Wow I just looked at Aweber and can't find the terms excluding affiliates that I saw there a couple months ago when I had the mailchimp fiasco. So after much contemplation I may have just found my solution!
Thank you so much for giving me incentive to look again.! I will let you know if it works out!
Dennis
I use Mailerlite. However, I don't put affiliate links on my emails. I wonder how you're putting the links. If you're using clickbait, I can see you getting banned. Typically, people expect to click to your website when they click on a link, especially if that link is a word or phrase.
One thing you might consider, which is similar to what's been instructed in the training is to send them to a page on your website. Within the page, you'd include your affiliate links.
Another thing that comes to mind with the affiliate links is you're probably not including a disclaimer in your emails. The training specifically shows you how to put a disclaimer on your website for affiliate links. If you're not including one in your email but including affiliate links, that might be a problem also.
Bottom line is, don't try to trick people into clicking your affiliate links. Play it right. Be transparent.
i have a disclaimer on my website and Mailchimp booted me because of website content I never got to send an email
I don't know. Others aren't having that problem. I have a disclaimer on my website. I've used mailchimp and mailerlite and haven't had a problem. As I'm said, I'm not hiding affiliate links in my email either. My links send them to my website or products/services I've created myself. For example, it might send them to videos I've done... always to free stuff.
I checked out your disclaimer. It says you recommend the items you're marketing and you've tried them out. Maybe they doubt your claim.
My disclaimer doesn't say I recommend anything. It simply says I'm a affiliated with the products/services and may receive payments if they use the links.
If you haven't gone through the bootcamps, I HIGHLY recommend completing at least one. It's a service you paid for and there's lots of good information in it.
I am currently finishing the Bootcamp.
I have that in my disclaimer because I only recommend things in my articles that I have tried. I don;t believe you can truly review something without trying it??
I see the people claiming WA to be a scam citing the practice of reviewing things w/o trying to be a major complaint.
Trying to be transparent because this is a viable business.
See the others having the same problems below.
I looked over your site and don't see any affiliate links so comparison is not relative.
Thanks for your opinion though'
Dennis
I actually do have affiliate links on my website. It's just not a major portion of my business. My affiliate links are found in my software reviews. I also have adsense ads in majority of my posts.
I followed the certification course and put my affiliate links in the reviews. Then I link back relevant items to my reviews, which is also in the certification training. Once in a while, I might include an affiliate link in a special post, but that's rare. I don't recommend products nor do I tell people not to purchase products. I simply share my opinion of a product and let them decide for themselves.
You'll see my reviews are pretty thorough with screenshots in most cases. Here are some examples: http://backboneamerica.com/productservice-reviews. I have not reviewed WA on my website, nor do I have any WA affiliate links. Despite having a great training program, WA doesn't fit my niche of growing startup businesses, so it's irrelevant to my website.
It's unfortunate you're discounting my thoughts because you didn't see affiliate links. What I will say is I'm not banned from any mail services, I have an adsense account, and Amazon allows me to advertise for them.
I followed the certification program, step-by-step without jumping ahead. My understanding is the main difference between the certification program and the affiliate bootcamp is the affiliate bootcamp focuses on promoting WA. Whereas the certification program focuses on promoting a niche of your choice.
My suggestion is follow one of the programs (certification training of affiliate bootcamp) to get up and running. If you follow the program step-by-step, you shouldn't find yourself being banned from venues.
I was not discounting your thoughts. Sorry if I gave you that impression. It was just that I am trying to be honest in my endeavors here.
I am following the training in the Bootcamp and have had success already with my MMO website and also with my other niche site.
You are correct in your understanding of the differences in the courses!
I have been marketing on the web since 1995 and have had some success.
Affiliate marketing is new to me since August 2016. I had a great list years ago but my sites success was built on reciprocal and back links and crashed in 2014 with the google penguin update.
Have you had any affiliate success with your site?
Thanks for the connection and all your thoughts.
Dennis
I've had varying success. Not nearly as much as I'd like. Certainly not enough to make a living.
One thing for sure, I didn't define my niche nearly as well as I could have, particularly in the beginning. A lot of the traffic I'm receiving isn't really my area of focus. I've been trying to remedy that. In doing so, I'm not concentrating on affiliate marketing though. I think a lot of the principles for affiliate marketing still apply though.
Personally, I think the training is a good start. However, I think it takes a lot more than just going through the training to be successful at affiliate marketing.
For example, you're working on list building. I don't know if affiliate bootcamp addresses list building. Unless things have changed, I'm sure the certified training doesn't. In fact, Kyle mentioned not worry about list building early on... concentrate on building your website traffic through good content.
Personally, I think list building should be one of the early steps. It's been addressed in user Q&A and I believe in Jay's videos. However, it's not part of the certified training, at least it wasn't. You're already trying to share products with your list. If you had a list of 1000 recommended a product and 20% clicked through to the offer, you're looking at 200. If 2% (which is a decent conversion rate) of those individuals found your product interesting enough to purchase, you'd have 4.
Still... I do links to the the reviews, rather than directly to the sale site.
Hi, I have been involved in affiliate marketing for over 20 years. I have used mailchimp, getresponse and aweber and never been booted off. My emails have always had affiliate links in them and never had a problem.
I am not sure whether the subscribers that you are sending to are people that signed up from forms on your web site who would be double optin if they have to confirm their email or you are importing purchased lists.
The only people that I have seen have a problem are those that import large lists that they have purchased. These lists create spam complaints since you are sending your info out to people that did not request it no matter what the company you purchased them from said. Most autoresponder companies will terminate your account if they get spam complaints. The only other time accounts might be terminated is if in fact you are promoting something on there restricted list.
I would be careful with using plugins and or getting your own autoresponder software. Most hosting companies have restrictions about mailing to large numbers of people since your site is probably on a shared hosting account and the more mailings you might do can slow down the access to other clients on the same server. I would also check with tech at wealthy affiliate to insure they had no problem with creating a large mailing list on the servers here.
I have my own autoresponder service for the last 15 years and have had to suspend many clients for violating the terms of service, mostly for spam complaints and or for promoting material that was not acceptable. We also do not allow the importing of purchased lists.
Hope that helps
Joe
I do not use paid lists at Mailchimp I imported addys I got from sumome listbuider on my site
I never got to send an email they claimed that the affiliate nature of my website was the reason.
I had a physical products website that get response canned me when I sent an email to 450 subscribers with an affiliate banner in it. so I am a little gun shy wasting my time setting up another one
Hi Joe,
In a position of having your own autoresponder service, there is no doubt that you have a lot of insight into what works and does not...
In that light, I have a question for you....What do you think of using external mail services for sending out the emails as opposed to the host provider?
There are a number of such providers, and the costs vary but all are not equal if you talk to users...The features can be attractive and when combined with a plugin can work...
What are the disadvantages to using such a system over a well-known AR such as AWeber or Get Response? I really would find your feedback helpful...
We are currently growing a list for customers of our e-commerce sites, and from time to time we will send out flyers, newsletters, etc. We are using a major AR service at the moment and having no issues...
In the interest of having more control (no banning or account deletions) over the long haul, I want to move to something that we can not worry about losing the leads arbitrarily...
Thanks in advance for your input!
Cheers!
Dave : )
The big guys use the main AR services and I get emails in all the time pushing this or that product....How are they getting away with this is a good question, because the rules are quite restrictive...I too send out info on offers to my list (I use AWeber)...Maybe it is the content in the emails you are sending?
A possible solution may be to get your own AR (there are plugins out there that work well) and then use a mail forwarding service to send out your emails? That solution will actually save you money over the cost of an AR service, and you have a lot more latitude in what you send....Still need to use the double opt-in though to cover yourself with the spam laws...
Let us know what direction you go in....Best of luck!
Cheers!
Dave : )
Wouldn't happen to know the name of those plugins and do they create the double optin or is that something you have to do yourself?
And I wonder if you purchase the top of the line packages from these guys they let you slide? A problem as i can't afford those right now LOL
I would get in trouble for listing them here, but I do know if you do a search using Google, using the term "best wordpress autoresponder plugin option" you will come up with some good pages to check out some options....Also here is a link that discusses options: http://c-point.com/3-best-autoresponder-plugins-for-wordpress/....Good luck! Cheers! Dave : )
wow that's awesome. I really appreciate. I knew if I kept digging I would find a good option. the discussion was good! ;-) It was a good tip. weell off to see if I can make it work
Dennis
Would you like to see the email I just sent out? Had no problems.
If you are interested you can take a look at it.
http://eepurl.com/cADy89
That's great I liked your email. Are you building your list from the website or did you have a list already?
When Mail chimp asked the nature of my business i answered affiliate marketing then it was out the door for me. I never even got to send a mail!
Did you buy the rights for The giveaway on your website?
Dennis
Both Mailchimp and GetResponse have restrictions against affiliate marketing in their ToS. GetResponse is supposedly harsher than MailChimp, but Mailchimp also have their own list of blacklisted domains that include a lot of merchants relevant to us, and they will shut you down if you link to one of those. (I have not seen the list so I can't say who they are).
Aweber is said to be safer for affiliate marketers but they also have spam rules that will be enforced if they find it necessary.
Getting subscribers from third party landing pages seems to be a big no-no for all three of them.
A lot of marketers use services like aweber and getresponse... one of the big boys is infusionsoft.
Mailchimp claimed it was my website not emails and they were referring to the mmo site. I never even got out an email there?
GR I was using from a ecommerce site and I posted an affiliate link in the email. So I been hit both ways. GR wouldn't even let me apologize hehehehe
Brutal! lol looks like aweber for you.. no mmo or direct affiliate links... living on the edge haha
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After updating an article by say adding a couple hundred words. Should you update the published date also??
I change them all the time, never change the date. Setting new date makes no sense to me as it moves it up in the blog roll. It would be better to remove the date completely, some themes have this done in one click. I do not know how to remove it.
I was wondering about the same thing the other day. If I believe Loes post... you should also update the date. Thanks
Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but whenever you make any changes to a page/post doesn't it 'ping' automatically, informing search engines a change has been made?
Good question. I hope you get an answer
Ken
Don't know definitive answer but look at it this way. If someone who has read your article, and is unaware it is updated, they might skip over it the second time round.
I haven't thought of that...I don't think there's a feature where you can say "updated on --/--/--" or something like that
From what I gather, the final answer reads something like:
1) yes change the date like Loes recommends
2) ask for new comments, social media input, etc every time you update, as chris2005 suggests
3) Hide the date like Jreinbold, says, so they are never "old"
This sounds like a perfect plan to keep blogs fresh and updated, and allow new visitors to still benefit from content that they may otherwise not dig deep enough for.. that is, IF hiding the date still allows the blog to roll up?
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If you are updating an article should you update the date?
After updating an article by say adding a couple hundred words. Should you update the published date also??
I change them all the time, never change the date. Setting new date makes no sense to me as it moves it up in the blog roll. It would be better to remove the date completely, some themes have this done in one click. I do not know how to remove it.
I was wondering about the same thing the other day. If I believe Loes post... you should also update the date. Thanks
Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but whenever you make any changes to a page/post doesn't it 'ping' automatically, informing search engines a change has been made?
Good question. I hope you get an answer
Ken
Don't know definitive answer but look at it this way. If someone who has read your article, and is unaware it is updated, they might skip over it the second time round.
I haven't thought of that...I don't think there's a feature where you can say "updated on --/--/--" or something like that
From what I gather, the final answer reads something like:
1) yes change the date like Loes recommends
2) ask for new comments, social media input, etc every time you update, as chris2005 suggests
3) Hide the date like Jreinbold, says, so they are never "old"
This sounds like a perfect plan to keep blogs fresh and updated, and allow new visitors to still benefit from content that they may otherwise not dig deep enough for.. that is, IF hiding the date still allows the blog to roll up?
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After doing fetch in google , my site returned 406 errors shown in the search console. I have accessed the site with incognito window and all those pages are fine. Should I wor
Have you checked to make sure that the URL you are inputting is correct? This has happened to me before. Check to see that none of the characters are duplicated. Also make sure you have a forward slash / at the end of your URL. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Jerome
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406 error returned in google console?
After doing fetch in google , my site returned 406 errors shown in the search console. I have accessed the site with incognito window and all those pages are fine. Should I wor
Have you checked to make sure that the URL you are inputting is correct? This has happened to me before. Check to see that none of the characters are duplicated. Also make sure you have a forward slash / at the end of your URL. Hope this helps.
Regards,
Jerome
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Hey man,
Check out Jay's training video here at around 11 to 12 minutes in: Keyword Comprehension