The Consequences of Running a Scam - The MOBE Update

Last Update: April 15, 2019

Whether you are new to making money online or someone who has been legitimately running an internet marketing business, you will always come across opportunities that just sound too good to be true. Most times these are scams and there are certain clues to alert you of their presence.

$300,000,000.00+ STOLEN FROM PEOPLE

Those of you who have been members here at Wealthy Affiliate for at least two years have probably heard by now that MOBE (My Online Business Education or My Online Business Empire) was shut down by the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) in June 2018. A lawsuit is still on going.

Some of us who have Bootcamp websites and did scam reviews on MOBE and its associated company MTTB, were verbally attacked at one point by the owner and his associates to remove our reviews. Not because what we were reporting was fake, but because we were stopping people from being scammed.

Many of us had hundreds of comments from people who had been scammed and wanting to know what could they do to get their money back. Some of these people lost tens of thousands of dollars. Personally I only lost $49.00 when I joined to investigate the product at the behest of a friend.

Eventually the complaints got to such a high level that the FTC sent in an undercover investigator to join MOBE and gather some really damning information that lead to its downfall. Originally the FTC estimated that the MOBE scam defrauded over $125 Million Dollars from people.

I have been following the update of this lawsuit which is visible to the public on a website set up by the court appointed Receiver of Funds. The Receiver recently posted a ledger of funds collected and a money judgment against Susan Zanghi, MOBE's financial representative, to pay $318,512,336.00.

DOES JUSTICE GO TOO FAR?

I can understand how many people, especially those who were scammed out of tens and even hundreds of thousands of dollars, would want to see swift and harsh justice against those responsible in the MOBE organization. But how much justice is too much? Should most of it go to the man at the top?

Though MOBE employed hundreds of people all over the world and there were just as many members scamming people out of their money as affiliates, there are three main people that the FTC are suing, Matt Lloyd McPhee (Owner), Russell W. Whitney, Jr. (Director of Event Sales) and Susan Zanghi (Finances).

These three people were like three peas in a pod, they worked closely together and loyal to the MOBE brand and each other. But now that their scam operation has been busted by the Feds and labeled as a scam, which many of us had been calling it for years, their friendship and loyalty are gone.

On the Receiver's website he has posted that the money judgment by the court in excess of 300 Million Dollars against Susan Zanghi has been reduced to only $33,400.00 under certain conditions that she must follow for at least 10 years. I bet she is quite relieved that she has dodged a financial bullet.

This made me realize that the initial claim by the FTC of "over $125 Million" was just the tip of the scam iceberg. MOBE had been scamming people all over the world for a little more than six years. With "High Ticket" items ranging from $2,000.00 to $30,000.00 each, I can see why the amount stolen is in the $300+ million dollar range.

WAS JUSTICE SERVED?

As I said earlier, I have been following the update of this case since it first started in June 2018. I find it interesting that many so called MLM and Direct Sales marketing gurus who have their own opportunities and were once associated with MOBE, have white-washed any mention of the MOBE brand.

If any of you were affiliates of MOBE and were in the process of promoting them, you better have removed any blogs, social media posts and websites in regard to MOBE and MTTB. If not you are in violation of the law and "could" be liable in the suit against MOBE and its associated partners.

But what about the three main players in the lawsuit of the FTC against MOBE? Well as I mentioned above Susan Zanghi reached a settlement and in addition to paying a lowered monetary judgment she must follow yearly reports to the FTC, She is also barred from participating in any business opportunities and coaching.

I searched through her Facebook profile and prior to June 2018 she posted pictures of her having a great time at MOBE events, all smiles posing with Matt Lloyd and John Chow. Then around June 2018 her posts were of a high stressful and sadness nature with some posts being deleted. Now it is nothing but somber family posts.

I think she is living with her level of justice because this not only affects her but her family as well and they are innocent bystanders. But what about the other two bigger participants in this lawsuit? Susan may have been the one handling the finances but Russell like Matt actually scammed the money out of people.

WAS JUSTICE SERVED ON RUSSELL & MATT?

In the bank ledger on the Receiver's website I had seen about four different deposits directly from Russell Whitney. The first was in the amount of $207,405.44, on June 20, 2018 which was blocked by his bank two days later because of the FTC TRO judgment. Then on July 30, 2018 an amount of $406,261.91 was made.

Yes, that is almost a half a million dollars! Oh but there is more. He made another two deposits to the Receiver's account in the amounts of $208,068.21 on September 4, 2018 and $59.26 on October 3, 2018. Both of these were from is Edward Jones account, most likely a retirement fund.

Sadly on November 20, 2018 Russell Whitney died at the young age of 37. How he died is still a mystery but I could imagine how he must have felt losing all of that money and everything he had gained from his scamming endeavors. I never made close to what he did but I know how devastating it is to lose all your money.

There was a brief time in my life when I went from living high on the hog to almost living in a homeless shelter. The feeling is enough to make you want to end it all. But I believe in God and the power of prayer and I eventually made a turn around. Regardless of how Russell died, his family still suffers.

And as for the creator of this worldwide scam, Matt Lloyd, he is not fully cooperating with the court appointed Receiver and the FTC. Though the published bank ledger does show him or MOBE making millions of dollar deposits, there is an online report that he still refuses to give up his lavish real estate holdings.

KARMA WILL EVENTUALLY VISIT A SCAM

Those of us here at Wealthy Affiliate are taught of the proper way to make money online and to also spot the opportunities that are scams or less than honest. For those of you doing product reviews in Bootcamp, do not be so quick to paint an opposing opportunity as a scam. It could be just a misleading program.

But once you understand what to look for, the definite red flags that indicate a scam, help alert the public to beware of that so called opportunity. Many of these opportunities that have "High Ticket" products being promoted by MLM gurus, need to be fully investigated, especially if the cost is over-priced.

Creating and operating a scam is illegal and if you are doing it for the love of money, no matter who it is hurting and defrauding, then you are asking for karma to come and take you down. Susan Zanghi and her family and Russell Whitney's family has to suffer for the foreseeable future. But what about Matt?

One can only guess that he is stalling and defaulting on FTC requests to perhaps start another type of company before his brand (his personal name) really takes a hit. Though he is MOBE it is the name of MOBE that is targeted the most in the FTC lawsuit. What will happen next?

If you have any comments, please leave them below. And if you would like to see the published bank ledger from the Receiver of Funds website, click the below link.

http://www.bernet-receiver.com/appointments/mobe/RURFeb1.pdf

Did you know that Wealthy Affiliate was sued by MOBE and eventually won? Yep, and Kyle wrote about the entire drawn out fiasco and how he and Carson prevailed and won. You can read it at the link below.

https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/kyle/blog/we-were-sued-we-st...

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LynneHuy Premium
I think it is shocking how some people scam others. What upsets me too is that surely these people that promote all these shoddy scams actually know it or are they that gullible? I've seen some people's Youtube channels promoting scam after scam and I just look at it and think that they are just as guilty.

People must be very careful about what they promote and not just believe everything at face value.

Plus all the posts on Facebook - geez it is appalling.
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SnazzyIT Premium
I so respect your integrity :)...not stalking you lol...just learning :)
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LynneHuy Premium
Lol you are welcome to stalk me if you like. I don't scare easily. Blogging - the one career where stalkers are loved?
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SnazzyIT Premium
lol! but you are awesome and I mean it :)
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LynneHuy Premium
Ah thank you :)
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boomergp08 Premium
I feel the same way Lynne. How can these people live with themselves knowing that what they are doing can and most times do, ruin the livelihood of the people they take money from?

I want to make a lot of money too, but I am not going to do it in such a way that will destroy another person's life. Those who love money more than they love mankind will eventually suffer in the end.
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SondraM Premium
Your post prompted me to do a bit more reading into Mobe and the FTC investigation.

It is very sad when a group of people that have enormous talent get greedy.

From my limited research on Russell Whitney, must have been a likable guy that had the ability to to get lots of intelligent people to listen to him.

The unfortunate thing is that he, and the others involved, cared more about money, quick money, rather than people.

It was very sad to read comment, after comment, of people that were scammed and hurt in a major way.
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Bryan30hwgs Premium
Hi SondraM, We are all reading about the brazen, callous and inappropriate acts of Matt and Co... It is the same as building a house on a sand pit or on a floodplain . Wind and rain will wash it away....realisation is sink or swim. I feel sorry for all involved. Very old saying. Be careful what you wish for... time is the greatest healer. So yes have a great day and be blessed.
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boomergp08 Premium
When people aspire to greed and the love of money over the compassion to help others to achieve success without scamming, then they will eventually reap what they sow.

There have been so many people who had lost their life's savings on the false hopes these MOBE people were pitching. It makes me wonder what kind of person can sleep at night knowing what they have done.
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Debs66 Premium
Hi, Robert,
I often wonder about Kyle and Carson having all that pressure of a court case hanging over their heads for nearly two Years. None of us never knew about it.

They were in the right of course! However, courts of law and justice is still a heavy cross to carry for two years. The pressure on them must have been horrific. Thankfully they were fine.

How Lovely Kyle and Carson gave $65,000 to members scammed by Mobe. That to me alone says everything about Wealthy Affiliate. Kyle and Carson are amazing. They didn't have to do that.

Mobe got their just deserts. I am sorry to Matt and his family as 37 is too young to die. I can only imagine there are more tragedy's out there with some familes scammed by Mobe we don't even know about.

So on that note my thoughts and prayers go out to those families that lost everything to Mobe.

As the saying goes every dog has it's day. It's sad that people can sit in lavish luxury knowing full well they are scamming people.

Thank you for this post Robert.

Debs :)
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boomergp08 Premium
You are welcome Debs. Just as a correction, it was Russell Whitney who died, not the owner of MOBE Matt Lloyd. I do feel sorry for Russell's family and what they must think of how Russell's actions have destroyed many other families.

What Kyle and Carson went through and ultimately did in the end, is proof at the amount of integrity and compassion they have for others. They are living proof that one can be wealthy and still have moral values to those who are not.

I am sure that their caring hearts and good will towards other people will be passed on in the hearts and minds of their children as they grow up in life. Being a "Wealthy" Affiliate doesn't divide us from those who are not, it drives us to make others wealthy too.
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Debs66 Premium
Hi,
Yes I meant to change that as I went to read more about what was happening for the people who were scammed by Mobe. It was Russel you are right.
I also read that link what Marion left below too. Wow he is Russel's Dad he doesnt seem to be a nice guy either.

Thank you for your Reply Robert.
Debs :)
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EdwinBernard Premium
Thanks for this insightful report on MOBE. Just over a year ago I was looking at business opportunities and came across MOBE as a company promoted by another affiliate internet marketing company.

I paid my $49.95 to join and soon discovered that was a loss leader to purchase high value ticket items. I had a 30 day money back guarantee. I applied for a refund and fortunately got it after I called the company.

Although I was not privy to the information you had on MOBE I smelled a rat and my better instincts told me to stay away, I feel relieved that I didn't get suckered in to that scam.
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boomergp08 Premium
That is good to hear that you got your money back. The majority of people who requested refunds never got it back.

Then again, if these people did their research they would have seen from the MOBE refund policy that amounts over the initial $49 is not refundable.

But companies like MOBE hide this information deep within the website and persuade people to join without bringing up the subject of a refund.

It's a shady way to run a business in my opinion.
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EdwinBernard Premium
Fortunately I paid only $49. I have been stung by other places where I missed the no refund policy and could not do anything about it.
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JonLake Premium
We were in MOBE for about 3 months before they got taken down. We lost about £3,000
The training was quite good but the high tickets just made it really hard work to get anyone interested. We never made a bean!
Personally I cannot stand the business models where you go in at the entry level and then are forced to have a 1 to 1 with a supposed mentor/coach who are just a salesperson by another name!
They all do it now and that is why I am wary of trying the likes of Legendary Marketer or Super Affiliate Network. Just let me in and let me make my own mind up as to whether I want to invest more!
Thank goodness for WA - everything the others aren’t and in a good way.
Great post by the way and very informative.
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boomergp08 Premium
Thank you. Happy you liked my post. Sorry to hear about your loss of money to MOBE. Unfortunately there are several other high ticket MLMs that have sprung up from other top earners in MOBE. I am currently doing a review on Shaqir Hussyin and his less than reputable Wealth Academy.
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RDulloo Premium
I really appreciate the update. Thanks for that.

Justice is justice. I don't think it's going too far. The trio didn't think about the people they were robbing and families they were ruinning when they were happily taking their money.

So I think it is justice that they return every single penny that they stole in this scam. Karma will definitely catch up.

Reyhana
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boomergp08 Premium
You are welcome Reyhana. People like this make me wonder how they can sleep at night knowing the amount of lives they are destroying all for the love of money.
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Dhind1 Premium
Nice post. I remember when Kyle and Carson posted about the lawsuit and their "win."
This type of business is why so many of us struggle for acceptance online. People have a right and a duty to be wary when doing anything in the real world or online.
I hope they are able to chase Matt down and force payment. Unfortunately most of the time, money just goes missing in these occasions and the people involved get minimal punishment and the people who lost get 10 cents on the dollar if they are lucky.
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boomergp08 Premium
Thanks. Kyle and Carson are the total opposites of Matt Lloyd in that they have a genuine concern for the success of other people and not for the love of money.

Matt may have millions of dollars hidden away but in the end he will be punished in some way for the harm he has brought to others and their families.
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Dhind1 Premium
I would agree with you about Kyle and Carson and I hope you are correct about Matt.
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cris1018 Premium
Thanks for the update. I've only known about this for the past 6 months or so, and have been following your info in your blogs.

Unbelievable what some people do to others. On the flip side, it's amazing what we have here, and I remember the day Kyle posted his "we prevailed' blog. If anyone reading these comments hasn't read it yet, you should click on that link above. What we have here at WA is unmatched. Sure glad to be a part of it.
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boomergp08 Premium
Yes. On the flip side we have the integrity and truthfulness of Kyle and Carson. They are proof that we can be wealthy and successful, yet not be someone that only cares about how much money they can make from others.
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HeidiY Premium
Thanks for the update Robert. The shut down happened not long after I started with WA, and I felt so grateful that I found WA and not MOBE in my search for a way to make additional income.

I am currently researching high ticket programs to affiliate with and there is so much spammy rubbish out there, it's really just awful. I feel so bad for those who lost thousands to these three. As you say often those who can afford it the least.

So very sad for everyone involved.
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boomergp08 Premium
You are welcome Sondra. I too am researching a High Ticket opportunity but not to affiliate with them. You are correct, they all sound really spammy. The one I am looking at, the owner was actually a top earner/scammer in MOBE at one time.
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bestleads Premium
A few years from now Matt and Susan will do a rerun of their biz opps with different names.

I have seen it many times.

And thousands of people will keep falling for these scams and rip offs. Lamentally, there will be the same scammed people with the rerun, too.

Emotionally, people will never evolve. The reason says don't do it, but they are dominated by emotion.
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boomergp08 Premium
I think Matt is trying to start something else right now. I have heard some rumors to coincide with why he is trying to stall in his response to the FTC lawsuit. As for Susan, I think she learned her lesson.

Seeing how she must report and comply with the FTC for the next 10 years and not get into any such similar business opportunity or face stiff penalties, I think her scamming days are done.
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BillFletcher Premium
I had a run in with Matt Llyod several years ago when I call him out during a webinar for scamming. His comments were rude, vulgar and senseless. I then receive comments that he was "God Like" and doing his best to show us how to make money. I don't personally wish him ell-will, but I do hope the FTC bands him from any more marketing scams.
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boomergp08 Premium
Yes, Matt has made some rude comments and has hit back at many people who have called MOBE a scam. Even though it has been proven by the FTC, he is still resisting and trying to defend it as a legitimate training program.
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lakbar12 Premium
Great thank you for the post. I wish I could my money back...lol. I purchased the Gold level package which was a few thousand. I was a member of MOBE, and never even wrote a post about it.

I never even realized it was a scam until I joined Wealthy Affiliate. I can admit that I did learn a lot in their coaching program.

Regardless, I can't believe how much money was stolen from people. I can't even believe that it was a scam. I can't even believe I lost my money and can't get it back...lol

Besides, there are so many programs that run just like MOBE to this day.

Anyhow, I'm still learning what makes the other companies any different. There are companies like Super Affiliate Network, they charge up to like $66k. So, I'm trying to figure out what exactly is considered a scam.

Is it because they weren't caught yet? Or is it because no one has complained as much as they did with the other companies that are shut down by the FTC?


Anyhow, I agree losing a lot of money is a big deal. I am glad to hear that you were able to turn things around. I can relate. I've lost everything before myself but, like you, I believe in God and prayer.

This is the first time, I've ever heard of this Susan and Russell guy. You indeed have kept up to date with them. Great post, I learned a lot here.
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MThompson3 Premium
I think human nature prevents a bunch of people who got scammed from coming forward. They are too embarrassed that they were so stupid to fall for an obvious scam.

Mark
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Brenda63 Premium
I believe the FTC will catch up to them. Many of those businesses that sell high tickets prices now using it as an affiliate program as a front as a way to make a lot of money, by having many upsells in number order. ASM does that for their drop shipping business. Why do we have to pay more and more for the upsells? Only person that makes more money are the ones who own the upsell affiliate programs, just upsells for more courses, or more digital products, I guess its just business. More moola, the better.
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lakbar12 Premium
Yeah, you're right Mark! Most people are embarrassed but, they shouldn't be life happens but, as you say it's human nature.
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lakbar12 Premium
Thanks, Brenda, that makes a lot of sense. I believe the FTC will catch up to them as well, it is probably only a matter of time.

And I agree there are so many upsells, these days, that it is really starting to get annoying to me...lol
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boomergp08 Premium
Their are many clues that are obvious something is a scam, once you know what to look for. For instance...

When first joining MOBE Matt Lloyd claims that you will learn about their secret formula for earning a lot of money the easy way.

That should be the first clue. Earning a lot of money online is possible but not easy.

Then the next thing that happens is an upsell in excess of $2,000.00. That to me is absolutely ABSURD! Especially when there are just as good if not better training online for a lot less.

Once someone gets hit with this upsell and/or a claim of how much one could make, the next step is to read the company's Income Disclosure.

Guess what? It was close to impossible to find the link to the MOBE Income Disclosure. And once you did find it you would read that the majority of members would earn no more than $250 per year.

And if the only way to make money was to recruit others and sell them the expensive items so they can do the same, that is the definition of a Pyramid Scheme.

All of the above are clear clues of what a scam is. But Matt Lloyd and Russell Whitney were master manipulators at tricking people into parting with what little money they had for the chance to make it big.
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lakbar12 Premium
Thank you! I see now, to learn what a scam is, first you must know the clues to look for and everything you mentioned was a clue. This helps me way more than you can imagine so I appreciate it.

I can not believe their disclosure mentioned that. That is crazy, but, it shows how many people read the disclosure. Apparently I didn't but, now since joining WA, I have learned to read everything.

Thank you for you response. I am learning something new everyday.
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boomergp08 Premium
My pleasure. Happy to help bring awareness.
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mackiejw Premium
Equally bad was Digital Altitude, it's founder Michael Force.
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boomergp08 Premium
Oh how the mighty are falling. Just proves they are not so mighty after all.
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remapot3 Premium
Thanks for sharing such beautiful truth story.
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boomergp08 Premium
It was my pleasure.
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Brenda63 Premium
Interesting post. Robert, I read about MOBE two years ago when FTC shut them down. There are still many “high ticket” businesses out there. Eventually, the feds will catch up and shut them down. You can see them listed in Home Business Connection magazine. Businesses like “cash gifting digital products” I think one of them is called tidom or something like that. No such thing as “get rich quick.” I steer clear from that. Some businesses like you say are legit and others are not. You are correct, we need to do our due diligence. Thanks for sharing the link.
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boomergp08 Premium
You are welcome. Yeah I am research one such "High Ticket" opportunity from a so-called guru who made millions at MOBE in the early days and now has his own company doing almost the same thing.
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Kyle Premium
There are definitely many high ticket opportunities out there, many doing the exact same thing they just haven't had their time or enough complaints to the FTC yet. They will get their moment though, it happens to the best of them.

Unfortunately what happens a lot of the time is that those that are involved in such scams, spin off their own version of it and then will operate the next up and coming one.

The same thing happened with MOBE, there is a history of scams in the past of those involved, and the same thing has happened with the likes of Empower Network, ZeekRewards, and the many "crypto" scams that are currently being operated.

I would always be VERY suspicious of anyone that was a high earning participant of any of these scams. They are just as responsible for promoting these scams as the owner is, according to law. Many folks in Canada and US have been arrested through the history of MLM schemes simply by being a participant.
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Brenda63 Premium
I agree with you totally. Thanks for your response Kyle. When we do product reviews for high ticket businesses, we need to do more research and be suspicious when they talk and walk like a scam operating business.
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Kyle Premium
Often times when it talks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it is a duck. Some of the most common attributes of these scams are "pump rally" masterminds/seminars, low ticket front end masking the high ticket back end, if it is MLM, and if the people promoting it are promoting a "lifestyle" rather than the product.

Or if everyone making money with the product, are those promoting the product..or to promote a level, you must go "all in" and upgrade to the level. These are the type of scams that are getting shut down by the FTC, but they are also the type of scams that keep popping up.

These are ways to almost certainly realize that the company is in the business of scamming people if they have one more of these qualities in them.
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Brenda63 Premium
Thanks for the tip. Good to know what to look for. I seen many of those websites that offer low ticket sales then a lot of up-sells from my research, those people are promoting a business mastermind groups and they cost thousands and thousands to join in. Doing our due diligence is important for us to do when looking at a company’s business opportunity. Yes, you are correct about the qualities of promoting one as lifestyle, I dislike that. Its not a honest way to do business. I stay on WA because you and Carson are genuine honest businessmen. Thank you both.
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peterjamesk Premium
thank you for this detailed piece of the MOBE main offenders. It's so sad that the man died at such a young age but I wonder how many victims died from this too! I hope the victims get their money back.
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boomergp08 Premium
You are welcome. Happy you liked my post. I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how many lives were lost from those who were scammed out of their life's savings. Now that Russell had to pay it back, perhaps the guilt of what he had done to so many was too much for him to handle.
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FKelso Premium
MOBE was the first affiliate marketing company I tried, and I got out just in time. Whew! Then I found another company that was not a fraud but still rather expensive...may review them...and then, thank goodness, WA.
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boomergp08 Premium
When I joined MOBE to investigate the product there was so much hype and then a few lessons into their 21-step program it was definitely a scam.

There is no hype here at WA. You already know how you will make money before you even have to pay for anything. All of these other so-called opportunities offer no value for free.
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ERichardson1 Premium
Good evening my brother I too was a part of that organization I also only lost $49 the guy had a great idea and it was helping many people make money and learn about internet marketing however it went to his head he start to take more than he was giving he started to believe all his BS that he was the king of the internet marketing business however it is also very well known that a lot of those people that were involved in it has branched off doing the same thing only smaller he had it made and he blew it because of greed as you have said you cannot run from Karma it will catch up to you it's one of the beautiful things that I love about wealthy affiliate there are no lies here There Are no con games played here Kyle and Carson are sincerely doing all that they can do to help everyone here at wealthy affiliate to accomplish their dreams and goals to become financially free to indeed have a successful internet business I am so very proud that I'm a part of wealthy affiliate and that I did not go any farther with that Darkness that you have described May Prosperity be with you my brother
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boomergp08 Premium
I agree. Kyle and Carson are taking the ethical approach to helping people to learn about the many forms of internet marketing without the hype and greed.
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DBlanchard Premium
Matt will get his day. Karma will catch up to him eventually.
Great update Robert! 🙂
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boomergp08 Premium
Thanks Denis. I agree, Karma will definitely catch up to Matt.
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Calh60 Premium
Hi Robert,

This is a highly well written, researched article. I really appreciate you taking the time to post the information. I did read Kyle's article and it was about the time I started here at WA. I think everyone should read that so that they know the high integrity we are working with here.

And yes, I certainly believe in Karma. It is a very real thing and I have seen it happen to many people in many circumstances.

Thanks for this post!
Cal
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boomergp08 Premium
You are welcome Cal. Happy you liked my somewhat investigative information post. Though there have been many other scams the FTC has busted, this one is of special interest to me as I was one of those threatened by Matt Lloyd.

Obviously his threats to me were no where near what he tried to do to Kyle and Carson. And all I did was give my honest opinion of what I thought MOBE was. When the FTC labeled them as a scam, I knew my original thoughts about them were spot on correct.

The way that Kyle and Carson handled themselves during the lawsuit against WA, is commendable. Then in the aftermath by donating half of what they were awarded to those who lost money in this scam, shows how honorable K&C are.
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Wdcope Premium
Several years ago I watched a webinar given by Matt Lloyd, the time I will never get back. After watching I was bombarded with so many emails, I said no way. Everything sounded scammy from the start. I have been inside several MLM's and made money from good companies, but these like MOBE make it tough to sponsor in your own circle after being burned.
This is why with Affiliate marketing, I will get better interest from some friends who still know and understand I would not lead them wrong.
Bill
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boomergp08 Premium
It is definitely true that not all MLMs are scams. But when you come across the ones that are, like MOBE, they give a bad reputation to the entire industry.

My first make money from home endeavor was with an MLM but their products were so overpriced and people could buy name-brands of the same product for cheaper cost.

But thank God I found WA and learned about affiliate marketing because it is easier to promote and make money from products most people have heard of than products that are unknowns.
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MiaL Premium
That's fascinating. I wonder what happened to Russell Whitney.
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Calh60 Premium
Coming from a law enforcement background and having seen many death investigations ending in, " we really don't know what happened" and given the circumstances and his age, I would guess suicide.
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Brenda63 Premium
Also said “his death is not made public” according to the newspapers, we can speculate its possible that he “died by suicide” we will never know unless someone is brave enough to get a copy of his death certificate from the county where he died. Also another famous MLMer from Herbal Life founder died young from lethal combination of drugs in his system. Young Living, Gary Young, I think, died young from complications due to stroke, he sued another company DoTERRA, they won, as the judge informs YL, that DoTERRA had the right to exist and be their competitor. Thats the nature of business.
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boomergp08 Premium
I tend to agree with Cal. I am thinking it might be suicide or maybe something that may have triggered a heart attack. Either way his family now has to pick up the pieces of his death and whatever else he still has to pay back in this lawsuit.
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boomergp08 Premium
I am guessing the same thing. For many years he swindled hundreds of thousands of dollars out of people, many who couldn't afford it.

I am thinking that with the loss of all his money, assets, holdings and his reputation, he probably took the losers way out. Karma is a bitch as they say, and he probably saw no way out.

I would also think that maybe he finally realized that what he did to destroy the financial livelihoods of innocent unsuspecting people, added to his grief of now being as poor as he made them.
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boomergp08 Premium
It is almost as if these scammers are getting high on making money by scamming others. But when the tables are turned on them and they are the ones who lose it all, they take their lives so they will not have to live with the guilt. It's sad.
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mduhamel Premium
another great post, thanks for sharing!
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boomergp08 Premium
y pleasure Mike.
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silverflamze Premium
Great article thank you :)
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boomergp08 Premium
You are welcome Erica.
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