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Rob3About Rob3
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I was brought up in East Africa, worked in Ireland and then the UK. I'm now back in Ireland where I write about travel, wine and photography in no particular order, amongst other marketing subjects.
As a dad of 3 young adults, my feet are kept squarely on the ground as I try to focus on the joys of life.
I have been a professional winemaker and winemaking consultant for over 20 years, and have made wine in several countries around the world. I love the vineyard and wine scene - who wouldn't, producing an end product like that! Wine is definitely in the blood, so apart from writing about that, I now write about other passions of photography and the internet.
Realizing that the wine niche was too specialized, I've now turned my attention to 'making money on a computer' - a bit broader, I reckon!
Still trying to get my head round all that WA has to offer, and especially like Jay's WAbinars. Great community, great people!
Connect with me on Google+ if you wish. Thanks!
https://www.google.com/+RobHemphill1
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As a dad of 3 young adults, my feet are kept squarely on the ground as I try to focus on the joys of life.
I have been a professional winemaker and winemaking consultant for over 20 years, and have made wine in several countries around the world. I love the vineyard and wine scene - who wouldn't, producing an end product like that! Wine is definitely in the blood, so apart from writing about that, I now write about other passions of photography and the internet.
Realizing that the wine niche was too specialized, I've now turned my attention to 'making money on a computer' - a bit broader, I reckon!
Still trying to get my head round all that WA has to offer, and especially like Jay's WAbinars. Great community, great people!
Connect with me on Google+ if you wish. Thanks!
https://www.google.com/+RobHemphill1
A Like on Facebook would be great too!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Make-Money-on-a-Computer/295115150639142
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Bob-1
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Hello Rob, it's a pleasure to meet you! I was given a link to one of your teachings on creating a child theme. I'm about four weeks in with WA and loving the experience, the members, the learning, and the building of a website - all of which is new to me.
I really appreciate the effort experienced members put into their teaching. I will be attempting to create a child theme. I have an immense amount to learn, I can see! It's interesting to me how people keep saying that you just need to get going on a website, because your first one is the one you'll learn on.
Sounds to me like they end up tossing the first one to create others after a while? Not sure what to make of that versus putting everything I have into making the first one right, the first time!
Thanks for you time, and I'll look forward to learning more from your teachings as I move forward!
~ Bob
I really appreciate the effort experienced members put into their teaching. I will be attempting to create a child theme. I have an immense amount to learn, I can see! It's interesting to me how people keep saying that you just need to get going on a website, because your first one is the one you'll learn on.
Sounds to me like they end up tossing the first one to create others after a while? Not sure what to make of that versus putting everything I have into making the first one right, the first time!
Thanks for you time, and I'll look forward to learning more from your teachings as I move forward!
~ Bob
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ColleenLVSJC
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Hi Rob! Just read one of your blog posts and wanted to introduce myself and follow you. Congrats on all of your WA accomplishments!
GabriellaK
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Hi Rob, Nice to meet you here at WA! You have a very interesting profission! I have been living in Porto, Portugal for already 11 years. When I arrived here I just got surprised that the famous portwine caves were on the other side of the Douro river, in Gaia! Porto is a beautiful city, worth to visit, if you have not been there yet. I wish even more success with your projects!
rob3
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Hi Gabriella, I would love to see the caves in the Douro as Port is one of my favorite drinks - maybe one day!
Thanks for getting in touch!
Thanks for getting in touch!
kerrybramham
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Hi Rob, I love Ireland. I worked there (in Dublin) for 6 months but it was 15 years ago now. I really had the best time and met some great people. I would love to get back there soon and catch up with some of those people.
rob3
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Hi Kerry, good to hear you enjoyed your time in Ireland all those years ago!
Mike-Writes
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Hi Rob, Thanks for the follow. It is much appreciated. Wish you all the best with WA!
coach-john
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Hi Rob, thanks for the follow. It is a pleasure meeting you here. I hope you find success with your online business. John
codevonish
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Rob i am happy to meet you here at WA, i think you are one of the more senior members i have met in the community, i think your blogs should reveal a little history,My best friend next door wholesale and retail wines, i have to shy away from the many wine tastings sometimes.wish you continued success in WA.
fritz11
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Hi Rob,
I wish to visit Ireland...I hear it's a BEAUTIFUL green place.
Wishing you much success here at Wealthy Affiliates. Lots going on and there is much knowledge among ALL those pages to read and learn.
I know you can do it and YOU will be a success story.
I am happy to follow you on your journey.
Lora.
I wish to visit Ireland...I hear it's a BEAUTIFUL green place.
Wishing you much success here at Wealthy Affiliates. Lots going on and there is much knowledge among ALL those pages to read and learn.
I know you can do it and YOU will be a success story.
I am happy to follow you on your journey.
Lora.
kingshopper
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Thank you for the support with your follow! Prosperous wishes to you on WA! I have years of experience with domains, hosting, WordPress, WooCommerce, and c panels. If you need help with any of these hit me up!
DeborahRangi
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Thanks for the follow i wish you the very best here at WA,
You are certainly in the right place to start learning and earning...
Best of luck.. Debbie
You are certainly in the right place to start learning and earning...
Best of luck.. Debbie
viosecrets
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Hi Rob3, thank you for the follow. I look forward to working with you here at WA community.
allchristie
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Rob - Good to see you are in touch with reality and the potentials of sugar, water and flavoring. In Australia my peak production was 200 gals per year. As well as grape I found Australian honey (esp Patterson's Curse) too good to pass up for Mead. An East European neighbor (twice so far for the Am. English spelling) who would hover to convert my so-so batches into white lightning. I always managed to connect my photographic creativity with my wine production so I see where you are coming from. Carrying the surname of O'Sullivan gives me excuses to tell stories (family history from Dingle). I now reside in (alcohol free) Utah USA (you don't live a lot longer here ~ it just seems that way.) I expect to roam your sites and trainings with appreciation. Larry
rob3
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Hi Larry,
I love Dingle, used to holiday around there as a youngster. My photography passion only started after I left the wine business - not enough time back then!
Mead is a cracking drink, we have the renowned Bunratty Castle, near Shannon airport that serves it every night to visiting medieval diners. Unfortunately, honey is a bit scarce with the problems that bees are having.
Keep telling those stories!
Rob
I love Dingle, used to holiday around there as a youngster. My photography passion only started after I left the wine business - not enough time back then!
Mead is a cracking drink, we have the renowned Bunratty Castle, near Shannon airport that serves it every night to visiting medieval diners. Unfortunately, honey is a bit scarce with the problems that bees are having.
Keep telling those stories!
Rob
kunalbhadana
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Thanks for following Rob, look forward to learn from your experience. You have great looking websites, maybe with experience I will have similar UI for my websites too, learning one step at a time right now.
timsproducts
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Hey thank you so much for the follow if you need any help just ask kk
justeileen
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Hi rob3, You have much to offer our community and the online world. I wish you MUCH SUCCESS!
Keep in touch,
Eileen
Keep in touch,
Eileen
Thanks for following me Rob, best wishes n good luck. A newbie I hv a lot to learn from u.
Elinor
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Hiya Rob,
What an interesting profile read ! A fellow Irish here but having settled in Birmingham I miss the homeland ....and the fresh Guinness ...!!! A wine lover too, I think a wine niche would be amazing, my hubby and I have always flirted with the notion of buying a vineyard at some point to make our own wine! We wouldn't know where to begin, lol!
Wishing you good luck with the program which I have found amazing so far. I was a complete and utter blank canvas when it came to online marketing but I am finding my feet.
Nice to "meet" you,
Ellie :-)
What an interesting profile read ! A fellow Irish here but having settled in Birmingham I miss the homeland ....and the fresh Guinness ...!!! A wine lover too, I think a wine niche would be amazing, my hubby and I have always flirted with the notion of buying a vineyard at some point to make our own wine! We wouldn't know where to begin, lol!
Wishing you good luck with the program which I have found amazing so far. I was a complete and utter blank canvas when it came to online marketing but I am finding my feet.
Nice to "meet" you,
Ellie :-)
rob3
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Hi Elinor, good to meet fellow Guinness enthusiasts. I do have a wine niche, but have little time to spend on it. I set it up years ago in Adobe Dreamweaver as a means of learning html and coding. Must convert it to WoirdPress one day, but that's not straight forward!
Good luck with it all.
Rob
Good luck with it all.
Rob
Lazyblogger
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Thanks for the follow Rob, glad to have you as part of my Network here at WA.
grampamike
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Hi Rob, it’s a pleasure to meet me, lol.
No seriously, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for following me. I’m pretty impressed with WA training and I think we will find a gold mine of information. Hmmm, seems like geniuses like us tend to gather in the same place (lol).
Anyway, here’s wishing you all my best for your success with online marketing. Please feel free to send me a private message if there is anything I can do for you.
No seriously, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for following me. I’m pretty impressed with WA training and I think we will find a gold mine of information. Hmmm, seems like geniuses like us tend to gather in the same place (lol).
Anyway, here’s wishing you all my best for your success with online marketing. Please feel free to send me a private message if there is anything I can do for you.
stephhill
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Hi Rob. I loved reading your entire profile. I am a huge wine enthusiast -- red wine is my favorite. I usually have at least one glass per night while working on WA stuff. No where else can you be in an office and enjoy a glass of wine while working -- only when doing an online business from home can we enjoy that luxury. I would love to see you develop a niche site on wine, because there are plenty of affiliate programs out there for wine products. Just an idea I thought I would plant in your head. Thank you for the follow Rob and will be following you back ... in search of good wine. :)
rob3
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Hi Steph, I love red wine too, but living in Ireland am also spoilt by having the best Guinness!
My very first site was my wine site built on Dreamweaver before WordPress became what it is now. So, have a look here http://www.winesandwinemaking.com/
My big issue now is how to transfer it into WP.
Hope you enjoy it - haven't done much on it for years since I was a winemaker.
Rob
My very first site was my wine site built on Dreamweaver before WordPress became what it is now. So, have a look here http://www.winesandwinemaking.com/
My big issue now is how to transfer it into WP.
Hope you enjoy it - haven't done much on it for years since I was a winemaker.
Rob
stephhill
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Hi Rob:
Oh my Gosh! I love your wine website. I especially like the section on Calories in wine...I will have to spend some time going through and collecting all the awesome information.
In order to get it transferred to WA hosting, I think all you need to do is change the name servers on it so they are pointing to WA, but I am not sure if that is only for a brand new blank website as opposed to a website which has information already established on it.
Thank you for sharing. Glad to have you in my network. Keep in touch!
steph
Oh my Gosh! I love your wine website. I especially like the section on Calories in wine...I will have to spend some time going through and collecting all the awesome information.
In order to get it transferred to WA hosting, I think all you need to do is change the name servers on it so they are pointing to WA, but I am not sure if that is only for a brand new blank website as opposed to a website which has information already established on it.
Thank you for sharing. Glad to have you in my network. Keep in touch!
steph
jimjames
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I suspect Steph may be right. I have seen others ping-pong sites back and forth with no obvious problems. Luck ...............
rob3
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Sorry, never worked with recipes. As a commercial winegrower I only ever made wine by using just fresh grapes and yeast! It's all about vine varieties, quality of grapes, hygiene and flavor balance.
Homemade wine is very different to the real thing - but still the end result can be good. This may interest you - http://www.winesandwinemaking.com/homemade_wine.php
Homemade wine is very different to the real thing - but still the end result can be good. This may interest you - http://www.winesandwinemaking.com/homemade_wine.php
Danielle15
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Hi Rob! Love your sites and the way you write. I'm a newbie and some of your info is pretty advanced for me, but gives me such motivation to stick with this. Love to have your HONEST opinion of my site when you have a few minutes! Latest post:
http://honestonlinemarkeing.com/over-50-how-about-a-new-career
Thanks, Danielle
http://honestonlinemarkeing.com/over-50-how-about-a-new-career
Thanks, Danielle
rob3
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Thanks Danielle so much.
I have had had a quick look at your site and am very impressed indeed. You write extremely well. I will return to take a closer look in due course.
I have had had a quick look at your site and am very impressed indeed. You write extremely well. I will return to take a closer look in due course.
hectoroliver
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Hello rob, I really enjoyed your websites. Case in point, the one about wine making. I see you are ecologically minded and a promoter of Clickbank products. You have an well rounded operation. Congratulations.
rob3
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Thanks Hector. I seem to have bitten off more than I can chew with my websites - so needless to say, some are floundering! Appreciate you taking the time to visit and comment.
Best wishes
Rob
Best wishes
Rob
Hi Rob, my name is Daniel, my friends call me Didi. I do enjoy the upbeat enthusiasm you project with so few words. And a Wine maker no less....man that's cool! I wanted to take the time out and meet you as I am following you here at WA. I think its more personable to say hello rather than simply following someone for the sake of following somebody. I'm a writer as well - of Short Stories and Novels, and am looking to Self Publish my first Novel as well as a Collection of Short Stories in the next couple of months. I wish you the very best success in 2015 Rob. Great to meet you, friend! Have a great week! ( :E
rob3
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Hi Daniel, appreciate your words. You're dead right, it's so much nicer being more personable and getting to know more about fellow folks on WA. There are so many very interesting people from all walks of life here - it's refreshing and interesting striking up relationships and following progresses together.
Good luck with the novels and short stories, and here's loads of luck to you too!
Rob
Good luck with the novels and short stories, and here's loads of luck to you too!
Rob
iamthanks2u
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Hey Rob, just stopping by to say thanks for the tips from the post "the power of infographics". I cant stop playing with piktocharts and I am VERY excited to use these as a marketing tool soon. Thanks again!
rob3
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I'm glad you enjoyed the post. Infographics are a great marketing tool for affiliates, good luck with them.
JSmith62
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Hello Rob, I'm pleased to meet you here in the WA community and thank you for your follow. It looks like you have a good handle on the business here. I'm still at the "trying to get my head round all that WA has to offer" stage myself but I know I'm in good company with folks like you here. Thanks again and best wishes for your continued success:)
Joel
Joel
1sourcebiz
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Thanks for the follow Rob! Best of luck in your online endeavours, and I raise my glass and toast your success!
JewelCarol
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Nice to meet you, Rob! :) Wow, you are a professional wine maker. This is interesting!! Thanks for connecting n wish you all the best online n offline!! :)
POrtega
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Hi Rob glad for the opportunity to follow you, love the interesting back history of all you have done. I look forward to keeping in touch as we progress here at WA. I appreciate your follow and want to let you know I'd love to do a review should you need one. Send a link if you need a review. Here's to you and your success. Pamela
kmer6
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What an awesome resume! My hats off to you, sir! Rob, thank you for the follow and It is an honor to help you anyway I can. Unfortunately my children and grandchild do not live close, but I was blessed with a new wife that has a young daughter, so I am a daddy again.
I look forward to networking with you. To our success!
Ken
I look forward to networking with you. To our success!
Ken
chrisbailey
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Hello and thanks for the follow Rob. Great work so far and good luck to you.
bill808
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Thanks for the follow.
Find a niche you know and love. When you use your expertise, it is much easier to write content. Try to focus the niche as tightly as possible. The tighter the focus, the less the competition and the easier to establish your self as the go to guy in your niche. When you monetize your website, look for ways you can create recurring income. MLM is one of the best, affiliates that pay commissions on monthly subscriptions like WA and possibly a membership site.
Find a niche you know and love. When you use your expertise, it is much easier to write content. Try to focus the niche as tightly as possible. The tighter the focus, the less the competition and the easier to establish your self as the go to guy in your niche. When you monetize your website, look for ways you can create recurring income. MLM is one of the best, affiliates that pay commissions on monthly subscriptions like WA and possibly a membership site.
yayadee1044
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I love your save energy web page I'm trying to fix my page want to see how I can fix it I don't pay a bill I have so many referals it pays itself because I just was giving people my business card.Now a website will reach the 3 states they currently serve.I have a bunch of stuff to add but can't find any pictures like you have or the proper heading on that WordPress I remotely like. Can you take a look?
rob3
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I see you are using the twenty thirteen theme which is a basic free theme. If you want more punch and flexibility it may be worth your while finding a better theme for your niche. Some will still be free, but many - like the Genesis theme I use are paid themes.
FYI. I have a review on the Genesis Framework here - http://makemoneyonacomputer.com/genesis-framework-for-wordpress
Images can be difficult to source as you have to respect copyright, so I take photos or find royalty free ones.
But, I like the way you are not having to pay bills, I wish I could do that! Good luck and I appreciate the comment.
FYI. I have a review on the Genesis Framework here - http://makemoneyonacomputer.com/genesis-framework-for-wordpress
Images can be difficult to source as you have to respect copyright, so I take photos or find royalty free ones.
But, I like the way you are not having to pay bills, I wish I could do that! Good luck and I appreciate the comment.
yayadee1044
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thanks Rob, yeah I just refer people once they pay their 1st light bill we each get $50.It varies though because around the hoildays they give $75-100 off.Before they can get the bonus they have to aalready have another power company then its free to switch NO DEPOSITS
They started a new program about a year ago to service your A/C or Heating them the wires in your home up to $2000/yr I recently had them come fix my AC in August.
If I have 5 referrals @ $50 I usually have nothing to pay the following bill.If i get 6 people that month I might havea small carry over then the next referrals came in I never have anything to pay. Its says i will in November but by the time those people pay that first bill in November its going to totally wipe out that bill because I got $250 coming and i will have left over for December and I'm hoping we get $75 per new account in Nov-
So it was alright to show people that the system of referral does work they really can have no electric bill with the chart I took off my online billing?
dee~
They started a new program about a year ago to service your A/C or Heating them the wires in your home up to $2000/yr I recently had them come fix my AC in August.
If I have 5 referrals @ $50 I usually have nothing to pay the following bill.If i get 6 people that month I might havea small carry over then the next referrals came in I never have anything to pay. Its says i will in November but by the time those people pay that first bill in November its going to totally wipe out that bill because I got $250 coming and i will have left over for December and I'm hoping we get $75 per new account in Nov-
So it was alright to show people that the system of referral does work they really can have no electric bill with the chart I took off my online billing?
dee~
yayadee1044
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Hi Rob3, thanks for the follow we look forward to learning from you and your time here at WA.For those of us who have not been here as long as you can truly benefit from your years of knowledge.Can you currently share any success stories you may have had with WA? We are gaining strength in numbers and experienced professionals.We have added you as well we wish you even more sucess here with WA in the days and months ahead.
yayadee1044~
yayadee1044~
rob3
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It's like many say, start the training at the beginning and soon you will build up your knowledge. I am more of a hobbyist as I can't devote a whole lot of time to my online stuff. But the years of learning are paying off slowly. I believe if I did it full time I would be doing very well - but family and other demands come first!
Kingfisher
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Hi Rob
I read your profile and loved your 'traveling man' attitude. Maybe you should specialize in a 'wine niche', here at WA. many thanks for the 'follow' Rob, I appreciate it. Live long and prosper.
I read your profile and loved your 'traveling man' attitude. Maybe you should specialize in a 'wine niche', here at WA. many thanks for the 'follow' Rob, I appreciate it. Live long and prosper.
rob3
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Thanks Ian, I do have a wine site as you may have seen here on my profile. I prefer to drink it now after a career in it!
Misspressy
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Hi Rob3, thanks for the follow back, appreciate much. More success to all your online endeavors, God bless.
starryzero
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Thank you for the follow Look like you being here in WA for a lot of years Hope I can learn one or more things from you
mariamcm
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Hi Rob
thanks for the the follow and wishing you great success. I'll like your FB page and would appreciate if you'd pop over an like mine too.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/atuneucom/226863007507727
thanks for the the follow and wishing you great success. I'll like your FB page and would appreciate if you'd pop over an like mine too.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/atuneucom/226863007507727
Anne112995
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Hi, nice to meet you. Thank you for the follow. I wish you the best of luck and success in your ventures. :)
Anne
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Anne
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AllynBeekman
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Thanks for following me, Rob. Great to have you with all of us in the WA community.
bigmonkey
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Hi Rob. Thanks for the follow. I'm returning the favor. I enjoyed you websites. I'm kind of like you. I have a variety of insights and have decided to address them on one website and monetize the blog posts which will be about a particular product, service, or interest. Don't know how it'll work. Would appreciate feedback as time goes on and will offer whatever help you might be interested in asking for.
iamthanks2u
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Hi Rob,
I really enjoyed your photography and energy saving websites...beautiful! I am relatively new to WA...it seems like youre 5 years deep into this wonderful world of website building. I take it you are enjoying yourself? I most certainly do.
It is nice to meet you and I hope that we continue to learn and expand our horizons together.
Best wishes for sweet success,
Ashlan
I really enjoyed your photography and energy saving websites...beautiful! I am relatively new to WA...it seems like youre 5 years deep into this wonderful world of website building. I take it you are enjoying yourself? I most certainly do.
It is nice to meet you and I hope that we continue to learn and expand our horizons together.
Best wishes for sweet success,
Ashlan
rob3
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Thanks, I sure sometimes feel like I'm 5 deep in this stuff! No, seriously I'm just a slow operator as I have too much going on in my life. Wish I could devote more time to WA.
MonicaStrazz
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Wow...you've been with WA since 2009! Thank you so much for the follow, I will definitely need your wisdom from time to time! Have a great day! =)
rob3
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BrooklynPhil
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Rob thanks for the follow, right back at you. I've got to check your websites and blogs.
rob3
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I joined in 2009 but never did anything as I was in full time work, I re-joined again last year and started doing more earlier this year. I've always seem to have too much to do elsewhere, still I try to plug away at WA!
Tallell97
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Know the feeling. My initial goal was to work through all the lessons in 30 days. Initially there was only 4 courses and I had already completed Course 1 when I made this goal. Therefore, that left me 30 lessons to complete in 30 days. My 30 days is up and I am half way through Course 3, as you say, life just keeps getting in the way.
As I speak now, I need to rush out and strim my grass (electric strimmer) as it is forecast rain imminently!
As I speak now, I need to rush out and strim my grass (electric strimmer) as it is forecast rain imminently!
WillingToTry
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PS I like a good dry red now and again but have to discipline myself regarding the amount I drink....type 2 diabetes!
rob3
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Great profile name, Arthur!
A glass of red is meant to be very good for you, two or more not! You have some great wines coming out of SA at the moment.
I setup a winery for a friend in Paarl in 1999 - love the place. I suppose with Africa in my blood, that's hardly surprising. A close friend from my young days in Kenya lives and works in Pietermaritzburg!
A glass of red is meant to be very good for you, two or more not! You have some great wines coming out of SA at the moment.
I setup a winery for a friend in Paarl in 1999 - love the place. I suppose with Africa in my blood, that's hardly surprising. A close friend from my young days in Kenya lives and works in Pietermaritzburg!
WillingToTry
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Hi Rob,
Thanks for the follow, I found your profile intriguing and I also exhibit a passion for photography amongst other pursuits.
Kind regards
~Arthur
Thanks for the follow, I found your profile intriguing and I also exhibit a passion for photography amongst other pursuits.
Kind regards
~Arthur
ambraneo100
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Hi Rob and thanks for the follow. Wish you the best of luck with your goals online!
simonjagger
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Hello Rob and thanks for the follow. Best wishes and success with WA!
Simon
Simon
richwhit2005
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Thanks for the follow Rob3. Best wishes for much success in your endeavor.
atlanticus
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Nice to meet you Rob, and thanks for the follow. I have had a look at your sites, and I see that we share the same interests, my site is also about sustainable energy, and I love wine. Best wishes.
rob3
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My energy site has been on the back burner for some time now - too much going on! Have a glass of wine, cheers!
atlanticus
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JessicaN
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Thanks for the "follow," Rob. Loved reading your profile! We are intimate with wine-making also. I especially love my husband's spiced mead.
We are in the middle of our catering season, so I don't get to spend much time here, with everything else that's going on. Looking forward to getting my ownwebsite up soon, though.
We are in the middle of our catering season, so I don't get to spend much time here, with everything else that's going on. Looking forward to getting my ownwebsite up soon, though.
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