Two Warnings, Oops the Following Comment Was Disapproved
Who among us has received two consecutive disapproval of comments? I do.
One of the the topics is about baby sleep problems and I want everyone to judge if my comment is really not germane to the topic or it was disapproved because of wrong grammar.
Here is my comment-
Reading this post I realize that there are babies who cry every time and then with indeterminable reasons. I was thinking they may have been deprived of sleep and are developing their future life a kind of a disease.
Is there gauge if restlessness of a baby is due to a deprived sleep or any other cause?
In the relationship of sleep and food for babies I am aware that there is not so much kind of food given to the babies. They are not like adults who can take vegetables, meat, fruits and others.
Is there a particular feeding and intake for babies that would boost their feeling to go on sleep?
Here is the response to that comment-
I'm sorry, I don't know if English is your second lauguage or not but I could hardly understand what you were saying in this comment. Actually, I could not make out what you are saying at all. You know they have this browser extension called "grammarly" that is sort of like a spell checker but it actually checks the english grammer so if anything doesn't make sense, it helps you by giving you other choices that make more sense in English that way you don't end up leaving comments or sending messages that really don't translate well.
I accept that I don't have a good command of English but I can understand what English people are trying to say and I notice some English speaking people have wrong grammers too.
But I am not so concerned with grammar rather in the essense of what has been said. And I think a question related to the post is a very good starting point of a give and take discussion.
Imagine we are all personally in a circle discussing a certain topic and you say, I can't understand what you are saying, you are having a wrong grammar.
Do you think you helped the group or you have just insulted an individual?
It is not my character to shame anyone in my group but I want him to grow in his reasoning capability and self-confidence so I can just say, You have the point but you did not hit the target, however, I appreciate your courage in saying your idea. I would love to consider that good point in our next discussion. Or whatever you say it.
So I made it clear to him that he did not exactly answer or understood the topic but he is still a part of the group.
May I stress that by having acomment approved whether it be a wrong grammar, germane or irrelevant you will have these two positive things:
1. When you approve comment and respond positively you have not excluded and disregarded the effort of your site visitor. You accepted and helped him boost his self-esteem and confidence and he might come next time as your site visitor again.
2. Comments needing more clarification and explanation boosts your site. Why not just ask for clarification what he was saying and by that way there's a continuing discussion of your own topic and not just giving positive comments but it does not pose a challenge to other readers.
I hope I made it clear for you to join the discussion and clarify what's really wrong in a wrong grammar and irrelevant comment not to be approved if they are all opportunities for both of the parties to help each other.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Jimmy Dolo
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Sometimes what is written can be taken in more than one way. This is often compounded by the wrong or inconsiderate use of English.
Derek
I believe in that Derek. However, if my explanation was difficult to understand I think my questions are clear and is concerned about the post.
Nothing wrong with your explanation. English is a tricky language even for native speakers. It is very easy for me to write something that can be misinterpreted and I only speak and write in English. I can imagine the frustration that is caused when others use the language.
Derek
It is okay to edit a comment. If the person you sent the comment to did not like your English, he(she) could have corrected it. I understood what you were saying, even with grammatical errors. Seems to me the person was not using the best option.
We have the same thoughts when it comes to grammatical errors but I doubt it will happen once it was disapproved.
Grammatical errors should not be a primary reason to disregard a comment for as long as it construe the essence, unless the essence of the discussion was changed due to that aspect.
I would've approved the comment, and if I thought it didn't translate well, I wouldn't just tweaked it a bit!
Janelle
Reading and writing English from your stand point is hard, I see it all the time with foreigners from different countries. People are critical of others because they can't write or say something in their language, which is to bad.
I read through your comment and I would have approved it for these 2 reasons,,,
1: You engaged the conversation with an educational question
2: The question was clear and to the point
Now... As a person with English as my first language, I have come to train myself to interpret what the person is trying to say, I believe people aren't looking on the inside, they just want to be critical because they can.
If they had a hard time making out what you said, maybe they should deal with people who can't speak any English and see how they deal with that.
All the Best
Exactly, Alan. We don't just look for grammatical errors but we want to interpret statements by reading between the lines. Although I see grammatical error can change the essence of a discussion those are rare and they should be disapproved.
Thank you for seeing that my questions are germane to the post I commented.
The grammar stuff is rubbish, since it can be corrected by the owner... it is just that people like one kind of comments. The ones in their head. No dialogue, nothing... just dull comments helping nobody.
That's I really want to stress. There must be a dialogue going on. If you disapprove right away because of grammar even though you can be considerate you will loss the opportunity.
Yes... that is my point too...
But.. very few share that viewpoint.
They prefer their fairy cloud far from reality.
Meaning most of us are not experts either.
I am a non-native English too, and I understand perfectly what you are asking. If there is something you could feed the baby to let it go to sleep or is there an underlying reason why the baby isn't sleeping, some kind of allergy or illness.
I would start a discussion online with you.
The other day, I asked a question about an article, which was obviously too complicated to the writer, they approved my comment but deleted it from the website. I guess, they recognized me as an ambassador and didn't have the guts to disapprove.
Perfect Loes. That is a question related to the post that the site owner must explain to his/her audience.
I'm not taking sides here, but I think you must consider the other person also. If he/she doesn't understand what you're saying, he has no choice but to disapprove.
And he is trying to help by suggesting Grammarly. I'm also using Grammarly and it is helping me a lot because English is also not my first language. There is a free version of it and I would suggest you try it, it's very good.
I hope this will help in some way.
Have a nice day! :)
Thanks for contributing your quotas, Nick! I've been using Grammarly but discovered that it isn't that perfect unless you go through the content manually.
I just want to offer a word of advice that commenters may ask some relevant questions if some phrases are not clear from the content rather than forcefully leaving just a comment that will surely lead to getting disapproved. I guessed the author will still appreciate that and post such to his blog.
Israel Olatunji
Hi Accad, I would've approved it, but maybe that person didn't understand what you were trying to say.
Thank you Israel you are right I have two questions raised which I think the site owner do not know how to answer so he/she just disapproved my comments but I'm very sure those are germane to the post.
Thanks, Nick. You've seen my point, that means I delivered my message correctly to the owner of the site though it's grammatically infested. LOL
Hi Jimmy,
I can relate how you felt after 2 of your comments rejected as I had experienced that too quite some times ago.
From the above, I believe the site owner was not able to understand what you were trying to present in your comment.
If I were you, I would take his/her advice to use Grammarly to check the spelling and grammar before posting your comment. Take it positively and move forward. At the end of the day, I still believe it's the site owner's decision whether to accept or decline any comment that posted on the site.
Please don't let this incident to demotivate you. We are all learning here.
all the best.
:)Joe
Thank You Joe for your sincere advice. Would you agree on the points I've raised when comments are approved?
I agree with your point on getting more engagement if such comment was approved as you were asking some questions which was good. However, I believe the first thing should be considered first before the second element comes into the picture. Should your comment is approved, there would be more conversation will take place as the site owner would answer your question and so on.
:)Joe
And that was my point Joe. If it's a wrong grammar but still germane I have to approve so I'll be opening an opportunity for an extended discussion and in that way the person can clarify what he was about to that is ambiguous.
Yes... many disapproved should not be
I stopped commenting because of that
Also manipulating my comments in unethic
And wHen asking to remove, not honoured
Mainly bad experience too
There's nothing wrong in approving a comment that is a wrong grammar and irrelevant, isn't it.
It's in the way how we can elicit more clarification from the author of the comment. To me that is an opportunity to ask for clarification.
Nice of you
But i have decided to stop comments.
Some people even put you on spamlists wIth no reason
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This is tough because ultimately the website owner has final say on 100% of the content published on their site.
FYI - Personally, I would have edited your comment and then published the 2nd version.
Site comments are full of members who are just starting out and may not have the skills to do this
I am sorry this happened to you. I hope you get nembers with more experience next time.
Chin up Jimmy. Dont let it ruin your day. Onwards and upwards.
I'm ok Gleneys, I just opened this for a discussion and wanted to present my opinion on what is happening.
There are worse than me when it comes to grammar but I have been considerate. I think the owner of the site to whom we are referring in this discussion do not know the answer to my question so the option is just to disapprove.