Upselling Products - Your Thoughts on After you "Buy In"
I would love to get a bit more light shed on the upselling products technique. Not that I like that concept at all, but the fact that I see soooooo much of this as I review dodgy Products online.
What I want to know is:
I buy a product that is going to earn me up to $519 a day after I spend 27 minutes setting it up and clicking here and clicking there (actually 17 clicks) and I am up and running.
And this "Product" priced at $47 has come with a 60-day money back guarantee.
And now I am potentially going to profit all this money using this product I found on Clickbank.
YIPPEE!!
However....
And hypothetically here;
I see the sales video and they tell me their sob story of how they were broke and now a month or so later they are having over $519 days and beyond. And all because of this awesome product they now use and that they have found a secret weird trick that when they click here and over there, copius amounts of money floods into their paypal account!
I am broke and I have a sob story too, and if in a months time this will do the same thing for me then I am all in!
So in I go, and after I purchased the initial $47 product, I am introduced to a $97 product that is going to fast track me to setting my business up... ( I am new and I need help)
So I buy that $97 product and then I click again and there is another $197 product that promises to show me all the latest social media and marketing strategies - that will help me with the $47 product and $97 I just bought...
And again I buy in.
All of them.
And in my in my mind I think, "I really resonate with his story and if he says that these other tools are needed, then that is what I need...."
So my question is.
What does the 60 day money back guarantee cover?
Is it the intial product I joined for $47?
Or do they have money back guarantees on all the other offers/upsells as you are enticed in?
So my question to you is?
Have you bought into one of these over hyped programs or systems, been offered upsells then decided it wasn't for you.
And did you get your MONEY BACK on just the first sale?
Or the upsells as well?
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I have bought 3 upsells on a product and then decided it was not for me. I got all 3 refunds with no problem. I got the product through JVZoo so there could be different rules with other affiliate programs.
Derek
That's great Derek. This product is with Clickbank so I do know the initial one is money back but not sure on the upsells return policy.
I almost got into something similar. I watched the video on how in just a short period of time, money would be flowing like water into my account. Thankfully before I committed, I did some research. Found out that the program was just as you described. I always needed the next upgrade to be successful. But all was not lost. It was during my research that I came across my WA sponsor and it has been smooth (almost anyway) sailing ever since. I always go by the old saying: "If something looks too good to be true, it usually is".
Fantastic Nancy, that you found WA in your research. That is half the reason I am doing Product reviews. To show people the ins and outs before they buy in what may be a "bad" product. Not all are but alot are! Good on you.
That sounds like the AWOL Academy. If it is, I don't have an answer about whether or not you can get a refund. But what I do know is that the next upsell will probably be $497, the next after that $997, then $1997, then $3997, then $9997............
They try to convince you that the next step is the one you need to start cashing in. I don't think anyone ever gets there.
We call those things "the shiny object syndrome", and many of us here have fallen victim to them.
The reality is that there is no easy way to fast money on the internet. Here at WA, you can learn how to build a profitable online business, but it won't happen overnight. Just like a brick-and-mortar business, it takes time.
But you won't be bombarded with upsells here, and you won't here any fantastic promises of instant riches.
What you WILL get here at WA are all the tools and training you need to reach your goal.
Just follow ALL of the training, and keep working. You'll get there!
AWOL is a great platform, but you can get that knowledge on the internet for free if you know where to look. Upsells is how you make money when you are selling a product, everybody does it. But AWOL is not worth $15k.
No, I was just speaking hypothetically if I did buy all in, the initial product and the upsells.
I imagine different product marketplace have different return policies.
And don't worry, I have been here nearly 2 years so I know what WA is about which is why I love promoting them!
Thanks for commenting Frank
Product Funnels..
I have seen some training from Jay on this.
But if you want to up your game get more commissions then using affiliate products that offer payout on the funnel are a good what to go.
You can make hundreds from a single sale.
- Glen B
I cannot remember where I saw this information. But I jotted it down.
Order bumps increase profit 147%
Upsells increase 130%
Downsells increase 133%
and all 3 +540%
I believe that sounds like Clickfunnels and some of Russell Brunsons teaching.
Yes, I remember when Russell first started. He has two great books. I have read them both. Easy to find just search on Russell Brunson.
But yes the money is in the funnel!!
- Glen B
Thanks for your comments Glen. I am not big on funnels and upsells however I say someone mentioned below that if the upsell is good value then that is ok
Sharon,
There is nothing wrong with upsells as long as it offers good value as you said.
There was a fellow on Larry King that is an expert in credit. He supports a book on fixing and increasing your credit score.
I was so interested I purchased the book. It was very reasonably priced and they have an affiliate program ;-)
So during the checkout they offer an upsell. The upsell is for a system that automatically creates the letters and mails them to the credit bureaus.
The letters have to be sent via certified mail so you would have to physically go to the post office for every letter. I felt that was a very good value as I live in the country and far from the post office.
Offers like this one give great value to the customer. When you find offers like this to promote it's a win win. Both you and your customer win.
Hope this illustration helps explain why I like funnels.
- Glen B
Sounds good Glen.
And @Benjis Dad - Chris explained it really well below. We live in a society of upselling everytime we go to our local stores.
Just seems that alot of digital products (Clickbank ones) give the upselling (online) a bad name!
Thanks for your input here Glen, really appreciate it.
Cheers,Sharon
My Pleasure Sharon, You do have to pick and choose which you use some are really bad.
- Glen B
I keep both in my gym bag. Within my profession(and niche) building a loyal following and getting referrals thru word of mouth has made me a lot of money over the years. Are you familiar with Jack C's site BNS? He gives great reviews of Russell, and WA.
It’s been already 2 years but I did signed up pretty much for something like you describe.
Only to me, I stopped right at the 1st “upsells gate” - I just hate it. It’s not honest.
You are told one thing and you are promised something. But then once you in, you have to buy bunch of other stuff too...
So initially I bought this $47 product (plus Tax) and I wanted to know what is inside. Once I found out that I need to pay additional fee, I just backed off.
My biggest worry was that they were gonna keep charging me but fortunately they had not touched my credit card account.
Although I did lose the 1 month fee (47+Tax)
It seems like a common practice in many online courses…
Cheers
Mike
See there you go - how many like you didn't get a refund on the first product. 100 sales like that (and people then wanting their money back and not getting it!) - the product creator has then made themselves $4,700. See this is where these people scam you!!!
You must be glad you are here now Mike! Thanks for sharing.
That's quite odd to buy all of the offers. I'm not that type but I've read this advice once as well, to buy and try and return using the money back guarantee.
I think you better be careful and not buy everything.
No I am not, I was just asking. But I must say I have gone down the path of upsells and bought things that were crap basically!
Lesson learned. Thanks for your comments Eli.
I have had that before I joined WA similar deal buy for $47 then once you are in they upsell for the next price of $197 again another upsell to about $400 odd dollars.
I did get a refund back after I paid the second one of $197 on one product then looked around elsewhere, but I also found another one advertising for again $47 but if I decided to opt out I would get that don't leave message then get a special offer for $27 I found if I opt out again another message of wait now it offered the program for $8 so I opt out once more then the next message stated Ok fine you can have it for free.
The last one was some guy driving a Lamborghini (more like a rented one for his promos). No thanks (by the way, both were on Clickbank)
LOL how funny, you can now have it for free... I haven't had that before. Shows how little value some of these products are.
So much misleading info in the sales videos too and you are probably right, a rented Lamborghini! Thanks for your comments Andrej.
No probs the funny thing was they say with each upgrade if you want to be like the millionaires this package will get you there however once you upgrade then they go to say what settle like the millionaires when you can get richer and so on.
Glad I stopped looking into that shiny object and found WA.
Enjoy the rest of your week
Hi Shazza,
Spent several years and lots of money chasing these "get rich with only thirty minutes per day. So far none of them have been good.
Perhaps my being technologically challenged plays an important role in my lack of success. I'd find myself close to realizing some success, but then there would always be a step I couldn't master.
Since you are here at WA, you have the training to pursue any market or product on the web. You can build a website that rocks, and you can find out how to make it profitable.
If I can offer a bit of advice, stick with the plan at WA. Learn the techniques and then you will be have the knowledge to upsell any product on the web if that is your goal.
Blessings!
H Coffey
Gidday Howard, I was just asking about product returns that was all. I have been with WA nearly 2 years so I know what I have here and just loving my journey. And yes, I am learning everyday from here. Thanks for your comments today.
Cheers, Sharon
I’m sure we all have. And I’ve gotten money back on each one.
Buts it’s the lay of the land. You can’t watch an infomercial without being offered 5 upsells.
Most companies lose money on front end offers and have to recoup it in the backend.
McDonald's has a dollar menu, that's is there front end offer. Once you are in the store, the question is, do you want to super size or buy something else.
Stores have sales on items to get you into the store. And hope that you buy other higher prices stuff.
I see what you are saying, it honestly, upsells are a common practice in business in general.
It's up to the consumer to SAY NO. if you can't afford it, don't buy it.
Since online already has a "scammy look" to most people, upsells seem like the devil, when it is just business.
As long as the value is there in the products being sold, an upsells is justified.
Love your comments Chris and you are so right on everything here. And the very last thing you said, as long as the value is there in the products an upsell is justified. Thanks for you share!
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McD's king of the upsell. "Would you like fries with that?".