Wolf is at the door!
Wolf at WA Door?
Oh, NO, they have already broken in! They are here so watch yourself! These wolves are heartless and do not care about the rules that WA has set in place!
Worst of all they want to condemn the two people who own this platform for not keeping it safe from people like them.
On top of that these members will take it upon themselves to belittle members, showing disrespect to the members who stand up for the community against them.
Handing out abuse in any form they find is appropriate until they push the member that disagrees or calls them out into leaving our community.
Yet, their Narcissistic ways turn into they are doing nothing wrong and want other members to rally around them. Saying new members leave because of these members, WHAT?
They are here to tear the community into to separate sides, theirs being no rules and no holds barred with spamming or anything else they feel is appropriate.
Against the real faithful and true members of WA who hold our community with its rules in the highest regards.
One thing this time around that really annoyed me was a member who has been with WA for some time, since 2016, jumped at the chance to side with the WOLF?
Finding this highly unusual until I found the profile of this member and knowing of past dealings with them things then began to make more sense.
Notice I am not putting any member profile names out here not to protect those who are doing this community wrong, but instead to protect those who can get hurt by this instead!
Respect for Rules
I am sure lately many of you have noticed I have not been visibly active inside the community like I was earlier in my membership.
Members who I am close to and trust know the reasons for this, the rest of you presume it is because I have been working on my own business (to some degree this is true).
Carson, Kyle, and Jay who I have so much respect for giving me this opportunity to build my own online business are why I disappeared into the background.
Not wanting to be banned for any reason even the slightest slip up, some members who take offense with the drop of a pin, holding up the rules of WA is difficult.
Those of you who are not familiar with the rules of WA please read them here:
https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/training/wealthy-affiliate-t...
Some members are very sneaky so read rule #19 below:
"19. Anything else that you are knowingly doing in attempt to sell something."
Other than EDUCATIONAL LINKS to training or blogs no other links should ever be shared inside WA whether it be on blog posts or in Live Chat.
Please NOTE what is written above EDUCATIONAL LINKS sharing of others blog posts for any other reason is really not educational!
Exception: If the blog post is a WA one then putting in your affiliate link due to Google indexing and ranking is not hurting anyone, everyone here is already a member!
All members need to abide by the rules not just a select few who try to make sure the rule is followed! If a new member makes a mistake then a warning is appropriate along with a copy of the rules.
Should the new member continue to post links then they should be spammed - everyone is entitled to make a mistake especially a new member!
Those members who have been here and know the rules need to start playing by the rules if you do not like them I suggest you work on your business and stay out of the community eye.
Anyone Can Join WA
This is fact, and because of this fact, keeping the wolves out of WA becomes the responsibility of the community!
Carson and Kyle are busy owners they rely on members of the community to alert them to the wolves who join as members to hurt our community.
For those of you not brave enough or not wanting to bother them please get hold of an Ambassador or someone you trust to do it for you!
My guess is 95% of the members here feel it is not their responsibility to watch after the community and keep these people away, how can you think this?
With only 5% of the community watching out for the wolves some are bound to slip in and make life miserable for all of us! They are here now!
I for one try to help all I can with the knowledge and experience I have gained since becoming a member of WA.
This community is based on helping each other not trying to separate the community into two exact opposites where one side thinks doing whatever is fine!
As adults how hard is it to stay within the guidelines of rules that Kyle has put out there? Is it so difficult for anyone to understand that self-promoting within WA is not permissible?
Our community is the best there is go try to find one that is better, please report back because I would love to know about it.
In Conclusion
Referred to as a trouble-maker by another member this stuck me as funny, sorry but I really had to put this in here, how is respect for other members and following rules being a trouble-maker?
Plus considering my absence from the community for the past three months this also amused me I have not been in Live Chat but to say hello to a few members on occasion.
Whole point of my blog today is WAKE UP OPEN YOUR EYES LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE WA - PLEASE KEEP OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER!
DO NOT LET THE WOLVES WHO ARE NARCISSISTIC BREAK THIS COMMUNITY APART IT IS THEIR ULTIMATE GOAL BELIEVE ME!
Thank you for taking the time to read my blog post today - for those of you who agree with me smash that LIKE button - those who do not you are in the 95% or a wolf ::))
Sorry, I call them as I see them,
Susie
Recent Comments
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Susie.
As, like many members here, a past victim of shiny object scams I am all too ready to point out the wolves and hyenas (the ones who come to pick the bones after the damage is done) as and when I encounter them.
It is sadly inevitable that they will come here to prey on us as we are no longer out there in the mainstream. WA has taken away their audience which I believe is why they will do anything to undermine it.
Hopefully our past experiences have taught us how to spot these undesirables and how to deal with them.
Best wishes,
Steve.
Steve,
I am thinking as you, but still, I would like to get them out
newer members do not need their influence! Just saying.
Thank you,
Susie
I want so much to understand what is going on, but it may be just as prudent to remain ignorant. This is the 3rd blog I've read today regarding those outsiders (wolves, evil, trash, spammers, etc.) whose sole purpose is to besmirch the WA program by discouraging newbies and experienced alike. When I hear something like this, my mind wanders into unknown territory. Are they our competition? Are they the SPAMMERS that WA beat out in court? Are they disgruntled ex-WA folks who failed to make it and now have displaced their anger, insufficiency, and deficits back onto WA as they have determined WA to be the bane of their existence?? Oh, yeah my head is spinning with all the conspiracy theories I can come up with!! LOL In all honesty, it's kind of scary. This community has become like family to me. Always supportive and cheering me on after these past few months. What can I/we do to stop this from happening? I want to understand! Thank you for posting this Susie!
Yay Us (all of Us!!)
Liz*
Liz,
I know for a fact two of these members are from long ago!
And yes, they come here every couple of months bashing
the way the community is run. They claim that Carson and
Kyle do not have enough security - do not run the community
correctly - it just goes on and on.
When members who stand up to them say anything they get
abusive and play a victim it is terrible.
But then we have ones who are self-promoting and they know
who they are with the if you want more information just PM me
I will give you the link. Yes, the link that they are going to get
paid a commission from if you take the offer!
Liz, I feel sometimes I am better off being an ostrich with my
head in the sand here like I have been for the past couple
of months not dealing with these people.
Probably will be that way again, shame I do love helping the
new members but with these guys around I think I will skip
and just work on my own.
Sorry, this was basically a rant because I see what is going on
and it makes me angry that they are taking advantage of the
community this way. Spam is a No No for a reason.
Thanks for taking the time to read,
Susie ::))
I don't know what you're talking about because it's not very specific. I have no idea who these bad eggs are and what they are doing. Whatever they are doing, it's likely not tantamount to a disaster or destruction of the community.
Vague references to unnamed wolves; I guess I'm not seeing them in my meanderings around here :) If this is happening in live chat, well, I don't bother to go in there much and if that's their only base of operations, I have so say it has absolutely no impact on me and I don't think it has much impact on this site.
There are so many other resources to get help, other than hanging around in live chat. Live chat media have always been a repository of the dwellers that come from the cesspool, it's probably why all the huge live chats on aol and yahoo etc from years ago are gone, gone gone.
Aspersions about narcissistic people breaking the community - how can that possibly happen? Whether it's their goal, or not!
Also, adults have to learn not to get their feelings hurt so easily, is that not true? Is that not a requirement of being an adult, just as it is a requirement of an adult not to behave like a child?
Anyway, it's just as easy to ignore those self-promoting for what they are, it's obvious what they are doing, isn't it? Sure, report them if they are spamming, I get the impression you're angry that not enough people are reporting these malefactors, is that it?
I hate to see you or anyone get worked up over this. I'm sorry but this call to arms to protect the community from vague threats I'm not even seeing happen...doesn't work me up all that much.
Part of the problem with 'if you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all' is that too many people believe that disagreeing with them is the same as not being nice to them.
One can't have reasonable discussions if one is not allowed to disagree and make alternative points. But now I'm getting off topic, so I'll stop... cheers
Marc
Thanks for clarifying the situation with some facts. Following you now, if you don't mind :)
Okay, so basically these bad eggs are preying on new people who don't yet recognize the charade. I mean, anyone who has been around here for any length of time will spot this spammage easily!
Yep, they can and should be called out. Personally, I wouldn't even pay attention or respond to their nonsensical self-victimization. Besides, isn't it true that the clickers on the link can be advised to clear their cookies and hence negate any affiliate credits to be given to these characters?
Not sure why Kyle and Carson haven't acted yet, given what you have shared. Maybe they are working on a comprehensive solution.
Even so, I still don't think this is any sort of community crisis to pay much attention to, sorry if that offends anyone reading this :) cheers! Marc
=) Reading your post, I couldn't help but wonder if these 'wolves' are enjoying themselves cause they're getting some much attention for the BS they're starting.
And it pisses me off, because other posts could be, being made, for us to learn. So let's turn this into a learning opportunity, k?
NO MORE BULL$HIT/DRAMA/UNPROFESSIONAL BEHAVIOR. LET'S GO BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TAUGHT WHEN WE WERE LITTLE...AND IF YOU WEREN'T TAUGHT IT, HOW ABOUT YOU TRY IMPLEMENTING IT NOW....
"If you have nothing nice to say, then DON'T say nothing at all."
It's truly simple....give it a try...
Laura
(Sorry Sus, just so tired of the un-needed trivial bull, yanno?)
Laura,
Got to admit rants are very welcome!! And honestly, you are
correct in the fact that Narcissis do love the attention!
Never looked at it that way thank you for bringing out this
one simple fact that I myself was overlooking - I applaud
you!
Susie
I have a problem with WA because of the fact that they do not update their training with the changing "rules." I've been burned following the training and then find out that -oh wait, that's not allowed today. I could theoretically be suspended or banned.
I always warn Newbies about the pitfall of the training.
Sue,
Honey, the Spam is a No No should be brought to everyone's
attention when they first come here, I agree! But these
people, some have been warned by people that have been
Ambassadors down they continue to self-promote! Ever on
the sly - such as if you are interested PM me I will give you
the details hooking them up with an affiliate link so they make
a commission from another member ::((
This is to caution all of you to these members who are doing
this they try to be sneaky and sly, but if you take the time to
watch for them - be brave let them know it is not allowed!
Ask politely for them to remove the post/link, give them a copy
of the Spam is a NO NO, should they refuse and ignore you
slap that spam button!
Just saying we all need to watch for them and do by the
community in the right way keeping these people out!
Thanks for the input - I will be sure to include the Spam is
a NO NO to all of my referrals from now on ::))
Susan
Nicely said... Glad you are back. Sure hope Kyle and Carson are on top of this. One reason I joined WA was because of how supportive everyone is! We can’t let a few bad eggs stop us from being here for each other.
I know I’ve stopped using chat and site comments for now...
Too much spam coming in and not sure where it’s coming from.
Here’s to better days ahead!
Liz,
I left Live Chat a few months ago due to these wolves to
think that they are returning is very upsetting. But, I will
stand my ground against them!
Truth and honesty will prevail over those who are here to hurt
WA and with members standing together they will not win!
Thanks for the support,
Susie ::))
Marley,
I believe this, narcissists are rare but dangerous. The wolf conspiracy seems like a big problem that is getting a lot of attention. I tried to share some tips and my blog was completely empty of responders with floods of comments for the wolf and spammysammy posts. 3 people expressed encouragement for my writing the next day, though. And that made me happy!
I really think these warnings are appropriate to share in any business. Bullying and creepos and thieves are demolishing the spirit of companies, especially new starts. It pertains to us all. I vaguely wondered if I was the wolf with amnesia when no one answered my posts...but I have not profited from accidental acts of ignorance nor have made any unethical attempts knowingly. Still it is good to closely examine blogs and comments to avoid accidents. I have been blocked from making comments without knowing what exactly was beyond my bounds to say. So that was a slap of reality.
Warmest Regards,
Nurse Becca
Becca,
Honey, I am so sorry that you were blocked from comments.
But, knowing what has been going on with that platform I can
only surmise! Site Comments affect the SEO of a website for
new members, they do not have a clue about this. Comments
must be relevant and well written for some members which I
do understand, for myself I prefer them to be relevant to the post
and not be where the people reading them know they have
come from a WA member ::))
Thank you for giving me support in this we must keep these
people out of WA,
Susan
Well said!
All the the comments that I received on my recent post, that I am still trying to respond to, reminds me that Wealthy Affiliate is an amazing community full of members that are ethical and full of integrity.
Yet it is up to each of us to protect the integrity of this community.
We have a wonderful community here. Like everywhere else, there are wolves and slimy snakes will find their way into our ranks from time to time.
If we try to pretend that the issues do not exist, we risk becoming a breeding ground for more unethical behavior.
So far, every reputable affiliate marketing program I have come across has no tolerance for spam.
Those utilizing Facebook forums seem to have moderators with the power to immediately remove them.
So, the wolves that are spamming should not act like they are getting mistreated here.
.
Trust yet Verify
No spamming
Sondra,
Thanks to you I was able to write this blog today - your inspiration
to me is invaluable!
This is what WA means to many of us - the ones that do not
belong here will be found out!
They need to stop trying to be sly self-promoting is forbidden
and needs to stop - call me the WA police if you want but I
follow the rules so should everyone else!!!!
Thank you honey,
Susie
I absolutely agree with you here, Susie.
This community, Kyle, Carson and Jay already do so much for all of us, from updating training, to doing live classes, to keeping our websites and businesses safe.
The least that we can do is educate the newbie that comes in, about the rules and it is also our job as a community, to look out for the best of EVERYONE within the community.
Being in the make-money-online niche, I can confirm what you have said about WA being the only one of its kind on the internet. I write a lot of reviews on other programs (I have written over 200 of them) and I'm yet to find a community or a training platform that is even comparable to what we have here within WA.
What we have to realize is that it is a PRIVILEGE to be able to communicate with each other within the platform and we should do that considering how it will affect the person it is directed to and to the rest of the community.
Thanks for bringing up such an important point!
Reyhana
Reyhana,
So right you are - I have seen members being abused for
standing up for the community to enforce what Carson and
Kyle have wanted for us here - only to be abused by these
members who think they should be able to waltz in here and
take over.
Wrong we are not going to stand for this - we love our WA
community we will stick together and out THEY will go!
Thank you for coming by with such wonderful words of
support,
Susan
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Wow ! Life us complicated !
Years ago when I was 21 years old I got into Real Estate sales. The first day in the office bull pen of about 60 salespeople mostly men my manager who was very smart older lady asked me to step into her office.
She said sit down I have something very important I need to tell you.
She went on to tell me this is a very simple business somebody wants to sell their home a d somebody wants to buy a home.
Just bring these people together don't worry about the money just try to make these people happy and the money will come!
However she went on to say there will be people that will try to stop you from doing this, you have to ignore them and be strong and just help the people sell or buy a home kiss keep it simple stupid was a word we often used in the business my manager never ssid that she was very classy and i went on to be # 2 in sales after 3 months it was a lot of fund amen !
John,
Love that story - and I am going to agree we use KISS
here at WA - this is the easiest thing that we can do!
For the dedicated members, we must watch out for those
who would love to prey upon new members with - want
more information just PM me I got you!
Or those trying to slide links into blog posts to make a
commission from other members - all I am asking is
PLEASE be aware of them and report them when you
see them!!
Thank you so much and it is basically a KISS type
thing LOL,
Susie
Yes i have logged onto a few sites offering sparkles and gold only to find out they are suggesting a very expensive site so they can make a big commission .
I have lost too much money in the past to fall for that again..
Please pm me for more info now I am curious thx :-)