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Hey guys,
I'm wondering if any of you have taken the trainings here at WA and applied them to getting and working with clients?
I took that leap this month and would love
I totally advocate doing that because you can make money quicker by doing this kind of work, while waiting the many months for your website to start making you money.
I even created training on various ways to make money with the education you gain from Wealthy Affiliate. Everything we learn here for ourselves can be used for other people to make money from.
I am currently doing freelance work for one client that pays me every week for about 15 hours of work and I am always looking for more. What I make in 2 weeks more than covers my yearly cost for Wealthy Affiliate.
Check out my training for information on how I do this or click the link below to a specific way I go about finding these online writing jobs. How to Earn Money Writing Online
Hi - not in terms of ranking specifically, but dealing with clients - yes - both on a website level, and in a corporate environment.
Anything you'd like to ask, please PM me, or reply back here - if it will help more people here, than lets keep it an open discussion that others can share their experiences too.
All the best, Mark
hi mark,
I'm mostly interested in any advice you have for getting started. I've done some consulting work in the past but it was always through referral, so any ideas on getting leads would be great, especially since i dont have a portfolio to show.
Kyle
Hi - I would look around your local area first, and see what businesses are there.
Do they all have websites? Are they mobile friendly?
For those that don't, or aren't - why not mock up their homepage using siterubix, and a good responsive free theme - and then simply approach them saying "I notice you don't have a website..." or "Did you realise your website isn't mobile responsive - and that'll mean Google won't rank you as well - but here's what your site could look like if it were mobile" - and you show them your phone/tablet with their mock-up of what could be their new site.
When you start to talk about pricing - be realistic. Don't undercut yourself just to get the deal - or you will end up becoming frustrated, and won't do as good a job - and your relationship with the client may suffer, and they may not recommend you.
Decide what your hourly rate would be if you were to "work for an employer" with your skills. Then add a big chunk on top of that (double it maybe, or more) - that will give you the cash coming in for a job, and the sense that you've made it.
In my experience - people will have an expectation of what something should cost - and if it's too cheap, they'll have concerns - if it's too expensive, they'll let you know - and at that point, you just have to stick to your guns, and walk away if necessary.
One client paying you your going rate would be far better than you struggling to find 2 or 3 because you've undercut yourself just to get the work. Hold out for the people who will pay you what you're worth.
I hope that helps?
All the best, Mark
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Anyone have experience with client work?
Hey guys,
I'm wondering if any of you have taken the trainings here at WA and applied them to getting and working with clients?
I took that leap this month and would love
Look at any local website. Do an SEO analysis. Check how the site ranks for quality key words. If junk ranking you have a potential client.
I totally advocate doing that because you can make money quicker by doing this kind of work, while waiting the many months for your website to start making you money.
I even created training on various ways to make money with the education you gain from Wealthy Affiliate. Everything we learn here for ourselves can be used for other people to make money from.
I am currently doing freelance work for one client that pays me every week for about 15 hours of work and I am always looking for more. What I make in 2 weeks more than covers my yearly cost for Wealthy Affiliate.
Check out my training for information on how I do this or click the link below to a specific way I go about finding these online writing jobs. How to Earn Money Writing Online
Hi - not in terms of ranking specifically, but dealing with clients - yes - both on a website level, and in a corporate environment.
Anything you'd like to ask, please PM me, or reply back here - if it will help more people here, than lets keep it an open discussion that others can share their experiences too.
All the best, Mark
hi mark,
I'm mostly interested in any advice you have for getting started. I've done some consulting work in the past but it was always through referral, so any ideas on getting leads would be great, especially since i dont have a portfolio to show.
Kyle
Hi - I would look around your local area first, and see what businesses are there.
Do they all have websites? Are they mobile friendly?
For those that don't, or aren't - why not mock up their homepage using siterubix, and a good responsive free theme - and then simply approach them saying "I notice you don't have a website..." or "Did you realise your website isn't mobile responsive - and that'll mean Google won't rank you as well - but here's what your site could look like if it were mobile" - and you show them your phone/tablet with their mock-up of what could be their new site.
When you start to talk about pricing - be realistic. Don't undercut yourself just to get the deal - or you will end up becoming frustrated, and won't do as good a job - and your relationship with the client may suffer, and they may not recommend you.
Decide what your hourly rate would be if you were to "work for an employer" with your skills. Then add a big chunk on top of that (double it maybe, or more) - that will give you the cash coming in for a job, and the sense that you've made it.
In my experience - people will have an expectation of what something should cost - and if it's too cheap, they'll have concerns - if it's too expensive, they'll let you know - and at that point, you just have to stick to your guns, and walk away if necessary.
One client paying you your going rate would be far better than you struggling to find 2 or 3 because you've undercut yourself just to get the work. Hold out for the people who will pay you what you're worth.
I hope that helps?
All the best, Mark
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Does anyone want to trade guest posts with a link or two included?
You need to be very careful doing this -- Many (if not most) WA members have their sites hosted on WA's servers. Links between sites on the same servers can be seen as an attempt to "game" rankings via a method known as a "link farm". Getting caught by the Big G doing this can result in ranking penalties or even deindexing.
From moz.com:
"Old McSpammer had a farm, e-i-e-i-oh,
And on that farm he built some links, e-i-e-i-oh
With a backlink here, and a backlink there,
Here a link, there a link,
Everywhere a link, link..."
You get the idea. Back in the day, building your own network of sites designed to link to each other and build link popularity was an easy way to help boost your rankings. Nowadays though, link farming is an almost surefire way to get yourself into some big trouble with the engines."
Source (with video): http://moz.com/blog/whiteboard-friday-link-farming
While I wish that I could take credit for the entertainment value, the folks at moz deserve the credit for that.
hmm, interesting. i was aware of not linking to your own sites from the same server, but not sure how that would apply to multiple accounts via the same hosting company, in this case WA. even with shared hosting plans, we can't all be on the same server, right?
WA is a WordPress multi-user website which means all users are on the same server so far as search engines are concerned. This is fine for 90% of users URLs, but if you need cPanel or if you site requires a lot of band width you will need to go with a hosting service where you have complete control.
So far as backlinks are concerned, backlinks from authority websites are a plus. Backlinks from sites with little traffic get you down graded by the search engines. Backlinks from social media sites show search engines people like you. When people like you so do the search engines.
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Trade back links via guest posts?
Does anyone want to trade guest posts with a link or two included?
You need to be very careful doing this -- Many (if not most) WA members have their sites hosted on WA's servers. Links between sites on the same servers can be seen as an attempt to "game" rankings via a method known as a "link farm". Getting caught by the Big G doing this can result in ranking penalties or even deindexing.
From moz.com:
"Old McSpammer had a farm, e-i-e-i-oh,
And on that farm he built some links, e-i-e-i-oh
With a backlink here, and a backlink there,
Here a link, there a link,
Everywhere a link, link..."
You get the idea. Back in the day, building your own network of sites designed to link to each other and build link popularity was an easy way to help boost your rankings. Nowadays though, link farming is an almost surefire way to get yourself into some big trouble with the engines."
Source (with video): http://moz.com/blog/whiteboard-friday-link-farming
While I wish that I could take credit for the entertainment value, the folks at moz deserve the credit for that.
hmm, interesting. i was aware of not linking to your own sites from the same server, but not sure how that would apply to multiple accounts via the same hosting company, in this case WA. even with shared hosting plans, we can't all be on the same server, right?
WA is a WordPress multi-user website which means all users are on the same server so far as search engines are concerned. This is fine for 90% of users URLs, but if you need cPanel or if you site requires a lot of band width you will need to go with a hosting service where you have complete control.
So far as backlinks are concerned, backlinks from authority websites are a plus. Backlinks from sites with little traffic get you down graded by the search engines. Backlinks from social media sites show search engines people like you. When people like you so do the search engines.
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Look at any local website. Do an SEO analysis. Check how the site ranks for quality key words. If junk ranking you have a potential client.