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I really feel all I am not getting anywhere at all, my site keeps losing rankings because I'm not in the position to post every single day. I work full time, have two children
I have been where you are...please don't give up on it...yes it takes some work but it's going to be worth it in the long run...I gave up on WA a few years ago and I have come back...giving up on WA was the worst thing I ever did...
I have just read all the other comments you have received and what they ALL say is true...
So NO do not cancel your account and NO do not shut down your site...you will regret it!
PLEASE STAY!
Most People are here because they want that kind of freedom/flexibility that internet marketing provides.
The thing is, can we have that freedom working in our 9-5? No way!
At least when you are building our websites, we know it's possible and we have a chance! So, if you really want that freedom, you need to stay and persist!
I don't know any other way to achieve that freedom apart from winning the lottery. So, giving up on WA means giving up of my dreams... That's my mindset.
but of course, each person is different so it really depends on your own motivations.
I guess at the end of the day you have to do what feels the best for you...whatever you decide...ALL THE BEST!
I have just been going through my emails and thought you might like to read this one... Determination When I see stuff like this it gives me a boost when I don't feel like doing WA anymore either!
There is light at the end of the tunnel but unfortunately there is no magic wand and it does take sustained hard work :)
I haven't been able to touch my sites for months due to real world circumstances, despite that I made 2 sales from one of my sites. What I am now doing due to time constraints is making a lot of notes, ideas for posts/articles. Then when I have a spare ten minutes or so I do a bit of keyword research and before I know it I have the foundations for 2 or 3 posts/articles.
Say it took you 3 years to success and you suddenly had a website making a couple of thousand a month, would that really be so bad?
Loes makes some excellent points also :)
Yes there is a lot of work indeed in the beginning. But once you understand the process, things will get easier for sure. It applies to anything else in this world.
However, building an online business is different. It gives you freedom and financial independent. That's our end goal really.
I personally had seen my hard work is paying off. 7 months no content produced, there is still passive income coming in. You can read my blog post here: A Little Over 1 Year Update! There is another WA member who quitted his job not long ago because of his achievements with "computer related niche site". It is making 5 figures a month: My First $10,000 Month! If you willing to put the work now, the reward will be worth now, later, and sometime forever.. Marketing is an indefinite skill that will not go away as long as human race exists.
Combined with your passion. It's is UNSTOPPABLE! :)
At the end of the day, it is your decision my friend.
Hey there. I think what you are experiencing is quite normal. Everyone goes through many phases of wondering if its all worth it. At the end of the day you need to decide for yourself if this is what you want to do. I know much of the misleading information online has created this get rich quick, make money whilst you sleep impression of internet marketing, but thing are very different.
Building an internet business is hard work and unless you enjoy what you are doing and are able to balance the other elements of your life, then its going to be even harder.
If you want someone to tell you that there is light at the end of the tunnel, then I can do that. I can show you a recent post that I made here on WA: Wealthy Affiliate Proof Of Earnings However, it all depends on what you want from this business. Perhaps quitting isn't the answer. Maybe you just need to give yourself a bit of a break and time to reevaluate everything?
Sure, creating a post for your website every day may well fast-track everything. But I don't know many people that can work full time on top of doing this and running a family. I know that I can't do it! I have a family and I work 12 hour shifts. There is no way that I can create a post every day! In fact I aim to get one good post done per week. My site is doing ok. I want to make more money to give us more financial freedom, but I know that will take even more time. It's just something that you can't avoid.
I wish it was easy to make money over night whilst we sleep, just like the guru's tell us, but it just doesn't work that way.
At the end of the day, you need to come up with a plan that works for yourself.
I hope that helps a little.
Regards,
Andrew
I see you are a member since June 2016, two months now, since you took the first steps towards creating your own business.
Let's take a look at this from another point of view.
Let's say, you started your own offline business as a carpenter two months ago, what do and did you need for that? An education of at least 4 years, cost: 10.000. Machinery: cost 20.000. A shed or a building: cost 50.000. A business van and a trailer: cost (second hand) 15.000. You have to loan at least 100.000 for your start-up budget from the bank.
After that, you have to put in at least 60 hours a week, and when all goes smoothly, you might breathe a little after 5 years of working your butt off.
You can take it slowly the next 4 months, by adding one post a week, and see what it brings you after 6 months. Google takes your website only then seriously because most people give up before the first 6 months. And Google knows that.
Consistency and perseverance are the 2 words you need right now. You do not have to post daily, you have to post regularly. And when you don't have much time, leave 2 comments on 2 websites and gain one, to keep some movement on your website.
Hope this will help you seeing things in perspective.
The process can be terribly slow and I know it from my own experience. You already have a job so change the strategy and develop your site slowly, give yourself a few years to build traffic. I do not think you need to post every day. Make it every week but then plan long term. You are right, in most cases the site will die out if unattended. I have such an example of my own.
But there are sites with keywords in the name, have seen quite a number of such cases, that are unattended for several years and I see the traffic growing steadily all the time. How? Hard to understand but this is a fact. And they have just a few posts. Perhaps traffic is driven by social media, or this is just the keyword in the name. So think about creating such micro sites, I have two, so ask me in 3 years...
Yes, you are right. There's a light at the end of the tunnel and you're seeing it now!!
It's a train coming!!!
You're dead!
(*kidding*)
No. Don't lose hope. Don't close your account and shut down your site. It already got a life of its own, although its sleeping for now. Find a way out. I know you can, and I believe you can.
Keep going. =)
Yes but It is a constant 'job' am I right?! If I stop working on it day in day out it loses traction and drops traffic substantially, It cannot self sustain!
I don't want to have to write long time consuming reviews, blogs, posts every day/week constantly trying to be better than everyone else in my niche and please google in order to keep my site going. Even a good business is able to run without you, this is being self employed, if you don't work you don't get payed.
The claims are 'Earn while you sleep' yet if you don't invest countless hours continuously your website dies, just like a plant that isn't watered every single day.
It's not all it's cracked up to be!
And I can almost bet 99% the user within WA do not earn enough money to supplement their normal wage (people who never worked in the first place do not count)
Yes, Your traffic will decrease if you stop posting and your revenue may go down as a result. However, this is not always the case...
there is a guy here called Edy, he worked really hard posting articles every day for 8 months. He was able to get so many referrals to WA but he stopped posting for over 7 months.
However, he is still earning over $1500 from the large number of referrals he got at that time and that continue as a premium member. So if you have a product that generates recurring commissions, you can offset a little bit the effect of low traffic due lack of consistency.
Anyway, you need to enjoy the process of creation, otherwise it's really difficult to keep motivated. It took me 8 months to earn my first dollar, but I was enjoying the process of increasing my traffic week after week.
I started posting once a week, then 2... and now 4. BUT I work 30 hrs per week and I don't have kids. So I completely understand how hard it is to abdicate of the few free hours.
It takes longer, but if you write once a week, sometimes 2... trust me, traffic will start coming and it grows faster as your site matures.
Almost all entrepreneurship requires hard work in the beginning. It is only the rich kids born from rich families that are starting businesses without much effort because they have so much money to outsource all the work for them.
As for maintaining ranking and traffic, being regular at posting outperforms "being frequent" in postings. So, instead of shutting all your hard work down, maybe you can just set some of your weekend time for your online business. Just weekends, done regularly.
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Should I cancel my account and shut down my site?!
I really feel all I am not getting anywhere at all, my site keeps losing rankings because I'm not in the position to post every single day. I work full time, have two children
beardedguru, I was the same way just last week and then It hit me I put so much into wa and I truly want to learn and get ahead but I had got stuck and I had cancel and than the same day I decided to stop the cancel so i returned to the website and read that so many of the people and friends at wa cared so much I almost started to cry. so you just keep up the good work when ever you have spare time because I know when you have work, kids, and homework and along with other things to do in a day, but what ever little time you have and do it does counts.
so keep the faith and have a bless day!
Linda
I have been where you are...please don't give up on it...yes it takes some work but it's going to be worth it in the long run...I gave up on WA a few years ago and I have come back...giving up on WA was the worst thing I ever did...
I have just read all the other comments you have received and what they ALL say is true...
So NO do not cancel your account and NO do not shut down your site...you will regret it!
PLEASE STAY!
Most People are here because they want that kind of freedom/flexibility that internet marketing provides.
The thing is, can we have that freedom working in our 9-5? No way!
At least when you are building our websites, we know it's possible and we have a chance! So, if you really want that freedom, you need to stay and persist!
I don't know any other way to achieve that freedom apart from winning the lottery. So, giving up on WA means giving up of my dreams... That's my mindset.
but of course, each person is different so it really depends on your own motivations.
I guess at the end of the day you have to do what feels the best for you...whatever you decide...ALL THE BEST!
I have just been going through my emails and thought you might like to read this one... Determination When I see stuff like this it gives me a boost when I don't feel like doing WA anymore either!
There is light at the end of the tunnel but unfortunately there is no magic wand and it does take sustained hard work :)
I haven't been able to touch my sites for months due to real world circumstances, despite that I made 2 sales from one of my sites. What I am now doing due to time constraints is making a lot of notes, ideas for posts/articles. Then when I have a spare ten minutes or so I do a bit of keyword research and before I know it I have the foundations for 2 or 3 posts/articles.
Say it took you 3 years to success and you suddenly had a website making a couple of thousand a month, would that really be so bad?
Loes makes some excellent points also :)
Yes there is a lot of work indeed in the beginning. But once you understand the process, things will get easier for sure. It applies to anything else in this world.
However, building an online business is different. It gives you freedom and financial independent. That's our end goal really.
I personally had seen my hard work is paying off. 7 months no content produced, there is still passive income coming in. You can read my blog post here: A Little Over 1 Year Update! There is another WA member who quitted his job not long ago because of his achievements with "computer related niche site". It is making 5 figures a month: My First $10,000 Month! If you willing to put the work now, the reward will be worth now, later, and sometime forever.. Marketing is an indefinite skill that will not go away as long as human race exists.
Combined with your passion. It's is UNSTOPPABLE! :)
At the end of the day, it is your decision my friend.
Hey there. I think what you are experiencing is quite normal. Everyone goes through many phases of wondering if its all worth it. At the end of the day you need to decide for yourself if this is what you want to do. I know much of the misleading information online has created this get rich quick, make money whilst you sleep impression of internet marketing, but thing are very different.
Building an internet business is hard work and unless you enjoy what you are doing and are able to balance the other elements of your life, then its going to be even harder.
If you want someone to tell you that there is light at the end of the tunnel, then I can do that. I can show you a recent post that I made here on WA: Wealthy Affiliate Proof Of Earnings However, it all depends on what you want from this business. Perhaps quitting isn't the answer. Maybe you just need to give yourself a bit of a break and time to reevaluate everything?
Sure, creating a post for your website every day may well fast-track everything. But I don't know many people that can work full time on top of doing this and running a family. I know that I can't do it! I have a family and I work 12 hour shifts. There is no way that I can create a post every day! In fact I aim to get one good post done per week. My site is doing ok. I want to make more money to give us more financial freedom, but I know that will take even more time. It's just something that you can't avoid.
I wish it was easy to make money over night whilst we sleep, just like the guru's tell us, but it just doesn't work that way.
At the end of the day, you need to come up with a plan that works for yourself.
I hope that helps a little.
Regards,
Andrew
I see you are a member since June 2016, two months now, since you took the first steps towards creating your own business.
Let's take a look at this from another point of view.
Let's say, you started your own offline business as a carpenter two months ago, what do and did you need for that? An education of at least 4 years, cost: 10.000. Machinery: cost 20.000. A shed or a building: cost 50.000. A business van and a trailer: cost (second hand) 15.000. You have to loan at least 100.000 for your start-up budget from the bank.
After that, you have to put in at least 60 hours a week, and when all goes smoothly, you might breathe a little after 5 years of working your butt off.
You can take it slowly the next 4 months, by adding one post a week, and see what it brings you after 6 months. Google takes your website only then seriously because most people give up before the first 6 months. And Google knows that.
Consistency and perseverance are the 2 words you need right now. You do not have to post daily, you have to post regularly. And when you don't have much time, leave 2 comments on 2 websites and gain one, to keep some movement on your website.
Hope this will help you seeing things in perspective.
The process can be terribly slow and I know it from my own experience. You already have a job so change the strategy and develop your site slowly, give yourself a few years to build traffic. I do not think you need to post every day. Make it every week but then plan long term. You are right, in most cases the site will die out if unattended. I have such an example of my own.
But there are sites with keywords in the name, have seen quite a number of such cases, that are unattended for several years and I see the traffic growing steadily all the time. How? Hard to understand but this is a fact. And they have just a few posts. Perhaps traffic is driven by social media, or this is just the keyword in the name. So think about creating such micro sites, I have two, so ask me in 3 years...
Yes, you are right. There's a light at the end of the tunnel and you're seeing it now!!
It's a train coming!!!
You're dead!
(*kidding*)
No. Don't lose hope. Don't close your account and shut down your site. It already got a life of its own, although its sleeping for now. Find a way out. I know you can, and I believe you can.
Keep going. =)
Yes but It is a constant 'job' am I right?! If I stop working on it day in day out it loses traction and drops traffic substantially, It cannot self sustain!
I don't want to have to write long time consuming reviews, blogs, posts every day/week constantly trying to be better than everyone else in my niche and please google in order to keep my site going. Even a good business is able to run without you, this is being self employed, if you don't work you don't get payed.
The claims are 'Earn while you sleep' yet if you don't invest countless hours continuously your website dies, just like a plant that isn't watered every single day.
It's not all it's cracked up to be!
And I can almost bet 99% the user within WA do not earn enough money to supplement their normal wage (people who never worked in the first place do not count)
Yes, Your traffic will decrease if you stop posting and your revenue may go down as a result. However, this is not always the case...
there is a guy here called Edy, he worked really hard posting articles every day for 8 months. He was able to get so many referrals to WA but he stopped posting for over 7 months.
However, he is still earning over $1500 from the large number of referrals he got at that time and that continue as a premium member. So if you have a product that generates recurring commissions, you can offset a little bit the effect of low traffic due lack of consistency.
Anyway, you need to enjoy the process of creation, otherwise it's really difficult to keep motivated. It took me 8 months to earn my first dollar, but I was enjoying the process of increasing my traffic week after week.
I started posting once a week, then 2... and now 4. BUT I work 30 hrs per week and I don't have kids. So I completely understand how hard it is to abdicate of the few free hours.
It takes longer, but if you write once a week, sometimes 2... trust me, traffic will start coming and it grows faster as your site matures.
Almost all entrepreneurship requires hard work in the beginning. It is only the rich kids born from rich families that are starting businesses without much effort because they have so much money to outsource all the work for them.
As for maintaining ranking and traffic, being regular at posting outperforms "being frequent" in postings. So, instead of shutting all your hard work down, maybe you can just set some of your weekend time for your online business. Just weekends, done regularly.
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I am trying to install Jetpack onto my website and I keep getting this error message, can anyone hlep me please???
Your website needs to be publicly accessible to use Jetpac
Thank my fellow WA's, this is why I came to you guys for the understanding and not to Jetpack support :)
All the best in each and very niche :)
A lot of people are getting attracted to that plugin without knowing that it is already getting despised by others. I would suggest you browse around first for what people are saying about that plugin. I have removed mine long time ago.
I am curious as to why you want to install jetpack. This plugin tends to cause more trouble than it is worth.
I am just after something so I can track my traffic, because at the moment I have no idea if anyone is even viewing my website at all?!
Thanks for your help :)
Google analytics will allow you to do that. Have you registered your site with Google search console the old google webmasters
No because nobody had told me to do so, although I am only up to Course 3, lesson 6 thus far?
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Attempting to install jetpack for wordpress?
I am trying to install Jetpack onto my website and I keep getting this error message, can anyone hlep me please???
Your website needs to be publicly accessible to use Jetpac
Thank my fellow WA's, this is why I came to you guys for the understanding and not to Jetpack support :)
All the best in each and very niche :)
A lot of people are getting attracted to that plugin without knowing that it is already getting despised by others. I would suggest you browse around first for what people are saying about that plugin. I have removed mine long time ago.
I am curious as to why you want to install jetpack. This plugin tends to cause more trouble than it is worth.
I am just after something so I can track my traffic, because at the moment I have no idea if anyone is even viewing my website at all?!
Thanks for your help :)
Google analytics will allow you to do that. Have you registered your site with Google search console the old google webmasters
No because nobody had told me to do so, although I am only up to Course 3, lesson 6 thus far?
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I am wondering for creating post and page content, I only ask because time is a massive downfall for me, Does anyone know if programs/websites like this actually restrict of da
Spinning articles is not wonderful to be honest. A machine cannot 'read' an article in the same way a human does and sometimes the synonyms used do not make sense. A better way of creating content is to outsource it when you don't have the time. Try fiverr.com or Upwork.com :)
I believe article spinning is considered a black hat method of seo, which are hard to recommend. I would be careful considering the Google Panda update got pretty aggressive.
Has anyone used spinbot before?
I am wondering for creating post and page content, I only ask because time is a massive downfall for me, Does anyone know if programs/websites like this actually restrict of da
Spinning articles is not wonderful to be honest. A machine cannot 'read' an article in the same way a human does and sometimes the synonyms used do not make sense. A better way of creating content is to outsource it when you don't have the time. Try fiverr.com or Upwork.com :)
I believe article spinning is considered a black hat method of seo, which are hard to recommend. I would be careful considering the Google Panda update got pretty aggressive.
Even if I have not made any money as yet.
In the Nederlands, you can deduct all cost you make for business and training to improve your income and knowledge. As Fran says, you need to contact your Tax agency
I'm not in Australia and don't know about the tax regulations there.
But here in the U.S., we have a "Schedule C" that, in the same situation, one could fill out itemizing profit and loss for their sole-proprietorship business. Start up costs, and items like domain registration, hosting, and professional memberships can be deducted. I'm not sure about training. Similar itemizations exist for incorporated entities.
Since WA's membership includes both training and hosting, it seems like one might want to check with an accountant, or at the very least search on the official site of the government's tax regulators for what is deductible, keeping an eye out especially for words like "professional training", or "certification courses".
Hope that helps :)
--Fran
Can I claim my membership, website and domain on my tax?
Even if I have not made any money as yet.
In the Nederlands, you can deduct all cost you make for business and training to improve your income and knowledge. As Fran says, you need to contact your Tax agency
I'm not in Australia and don't know about the tax regulations there.
But here in the U.S., we have a "Schedule C" that, in the same situation, one could fill out itemizing profit and loss for their sole-proprietorship business. Start up costs, and items like domain registration, hosting, and professional memberships can be deducted. I'm not sure about training. Similar itemizations exist for incorporated entities.
Since WA's membership includes both training and hosting, it seems like one might want to check with an accountant, or at the very least search on the official site of the government's tax regulators for what is deductible, keeping an eye out especially for words like "professional training", or "certification courses".
Hope that helps :)
--Fran
beardedguru, I was the same way just last week and then It hit me I put so much into wa and I truly want to learn and get ahead but I had got stuck and I had cancel and than the same day I decided to stop the cancel so i returned to the website and read that so many of the people and friends at wa cared so much I almost started to cry. so you just keep up the good work when ever you have spare time because I know when you have work, kids, and homework and along with other things to do in a day, but what ever little time you have and do it does counts.
so keep the faith and have a bless day!
Linda