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Last Update: January 10, 2018

I realize this may not be a particularly popular post and I risk losing some followers. This is less of a rant and more of a curiosity and is not intended to offend anyone. I hope everyone takes it in the spirit it is meant.

Recently, you may have seen on the Activity section where a member announced the formation of small group with the goal of helping the small group succeed with their businesses.

My aim of this post is not to pick on the person who initiated the group or any members who joined. This practice does not appear to be against the rules and members can form whatever associations they like.

However, here are my curiosities with it:

1. What is it that the leader of the group is teaching that isn't being taught at WA? My understanding is the training at WA is supposed to give us everything we need to run successful online businesses.

2. If there is a deficiency in the WA training, it seems that is something that should be addressed.

3. To me, many others would benefit if these techniques were offered as a set of training modules, available for the entire community to benefit, not just to a select few. This has the further benefit that the teaching member will receive compensation.

4. It appears the concept exploded in popularity. Due to this, maybe it is something that should be added as part of the membership, i.e., formation of sub-groups to get members to succeed quicker.

I want to state that I think the world of this community and have the utmost respect for Kyle, Carson and all the members. Again, I share this with the hope of it helping us develop rather than it be seen as a complain or criticism.

Best Regards,

Jim

Update: The person who created the subgroup has posted that the training will become available to all members. I wrote this post before seeing that update.

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Flash4 Premium
Hi Jim,
Everyone has the right of selection. I see where you are coming from, and you are being very brave.
All's good now I believe.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, it always brings up another perspective.
Cheers Jae
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DebbieRose Premium
The concerns that you raised have been addressed....as Kyle is offering such a program himself and others leaders have expanded their help to others. Just another example of the responsive of WA to its members. I think these groups will hold its members accountable to taking action on the training. All good.
Debbie
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techhound Premium
Hey Debbie,

I had no doubt Kyle and Carson would take control of the situation. That was my hope and hopefully Kyle's announcement about his group discounts any future rogue groups from forming. I can now confidently tell my new referrals that the rogue groups are not better than WA training when they ask me why the rogue groups seem to be more successful. I can tell them instead to strive for Kyle's Super Affiliate group (again confidently and proudly). I also believe Kyle's is the model for the future of WA and this first group is the test group, which I couldn't be happier about, even if I don't make the cut on the first go around.

Kyle's announcement about his group is a wonderful development and I've put my name in to be part of this awesome group.

Best Regards,
Jim
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Elijah1916 Premium
It is a kind of push some of us need Jim. In after hours school lessons, some students are helped by such additional classes. You can read Kyle blog today on supper affiliate on the same footing. We are lucky at WA that a lot of good ones are dedicated to take others along the success part. There cannot be too much of such push. Some of us will always benefit, and that is why its so good my dear.
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CowboyJames Premium
Thank you for the post. I was thinking they were doing a test type.
road testing the training to see if it was effective.

Have a super week.
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MarkBa Premium
I think it's great that you asked the questions James and some of them certainly got me thinking too.

I don't have the answers but I can appreciate how your questions arose.

If the discussion that is stimulated leads to a better outcome for all of us then you have done a great job!

Mark
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techhound Premium
Thanks Mark. I have bigger fears about this situation than I have stated but I am going to leave it at that. I anticipate unexpected consequences from independent groups that may form going forward. Whether those consequences are for the better, only time will tell.
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drjec Premium
My take on the groups is that they are very niche specific so basically adding a level of support on top of what everyone experiences here at WA.
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HarveyBrown Premium
Hello James, in most large organisations, mentoring has been ongoing for years. That is not to say that the training provided is lacking, but it does recognize that members of the organisation, usually senior members can contribute to the advancement and development of junior members who which to be senior at sometime in their career.
I seriously considered the offer given that throughout my life I have had mentors and coaches that help me succeed. The thing about that type of program is the commitment you must make for it to succeed and that is on both sides of the partnership. I decided after reviewing my current lifestyle to not request to join. I do however wish everyone that did join the very best of success and I know the co-ordination of the group has quadrupled his/her workload.
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techhound Premium
Hey Harvey,

Let me pose some questions to you. Suppose 3 or 4 months from now, the members of the subgroup all post glowing reviews about their success with the group. They attribute it to being a part of the group. They are all making $X amount per month or more as promised. Aren't you going to be the least bit curious as to what techniques they learned and won't you wonder why that same info is not being taught as part of the core training? Is it possible for other members who are not part of that group to feel left out?
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HarveyBrown Premium
Of course James, but I also had the opportunity to be a part of the group and decided not to submit my name because of the amount of commitment required. In the corporate world I am sure you have seen people who are younger or joined the organisation after you that seem to progress faster because they have a mentor. One of the best advice I ever received while I worked was to look for a mentor. The same is recommended here and there are a few individuals that have offered this service. Each mentor will have a different approach, yet all will reach where they want to go if the mentor is knowledgeable and experienced.
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TaniaHersel Premium
Mentoring is similar to having a personal coach, whether it be for exercise or life skills.
The greatness about Wealthy Affiliate is the multiple forums to communicate.
We need to listen to different opinions and have open discussions.
Thank you for sharing yours.
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techhound Premium
I am not against mentoring. If the experiment shows that people are able to get to success quicker, I'm all in. But, that should be worked into WA in some way so that we all benefit.
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TaniaHersel Premium
The initiative is new and your last point appears to being addressed.
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techhound Premium
Agreed. That's why I updated the initial post to reflect that fact.
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edensbox Premium
Jim,
I think when I first read that, I sort of had the same feelings as you. Since when do we at WA start forming groups. Then, I got to thinking, there is no law that says you cant have a study group, or a group of friends who work together to share their knowledge and try to grow together.

The tools are here for anyone to be able to share their knowledge and if any group finds they have additional knowledge to add to what is already there, they can use the tools available to write courses and such for others to learn from as well.

It isn't about alienating anyone from learning. Its about sharing what we know so that others can learn as well. What i may not be good at someone else is and so on.
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techhound Premium
True, but more people will benefit when information is shared to the community at large. As I stated, the creators of training will receive the added benefit of getting paid for their efforts. To me, it's more of a win-win for the entire community when that happens.
I also mentioned that perhaps we should try to incorporate subgroups but be available to the everyone. Admittedly, I don't know how WA could make that happen, but Kyle and Carson are always coming up with amazing features. If anyone can get it done, and it makes sense to do it, these guys will figure something out.
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edensbox Premium
I agree with you there!! Maybe this is something new they can add to the site.
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Fleeky Premium
Hi Jim,

I found it a noble initiative and a pitty only 5 could attend.

Given the diversity of backgrounds, experience and academics here... it becomes a great meltpot. There should be more sharing on that level.... MORE !..

It will make us all better

To a great 2018
Ml
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techhound Premium
Hey Bellon, your statement, "...and a pitty (sic) only 5 could attend," is exactly the point of my post.
Best Regards,
Jim
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Fleeky Premium
Yes. ... true... same feelings here

could not mentor more than 5 ...
You?

Watch latest post...
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CraigW315 Premium
My view on it is this:

A student may be attending an excellent school, with fantastic teachers and a very well-prepared course, but still be having some difficulty.

That student may, of course, approach the teacher, but if multiple students do so, all with different schedules and availability, that puts a great deal of pressure on the teacher.

Likewise, they may certainly go to the school library, but sometimes having all the information they need laid out in front of them still doesn't help if they are unsure of how to interpret it, or have a basic misunderstanding of it.

Enter the after school tutor.

The tutor uses the same textbook from the school and the same lessons, but their individual attention and their own unique way of explaining things may "click" with the student.

That takes nothing away from the excellence of the school; it simply provides additional support to the student.
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techhound Premium
Hey Craig, understood. But, following your analogy, the tutor is using the school's resources at the expense of the taxpayers to help a select few, no?
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CraigW315 Premium
I can sort of see your point, but I wouldn't really think so...
When I had a tutor, it was someone who came to my house and helped me get a better grasp on the materials, using basically a pencil and paper (mine) and the textbook that I, and every student, already had.

No extra fees. The tutor didn't even accept payment.
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techhound Premium
It's moot at this point as the person is making available to everyone.
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MKearns Premium
You cant generate ripples to make transformational waves without encountering inertia Jim. It's a human condition! There's going to be a lot of cross chatter on Bo's great initiative!
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Gordon-D Premium
The original idea was one of a mentorship JIm, which on the face of it is quite a nice idea, but it seems that Bo was inundated with members wanting his advice and it grew almost out of all proportion. We have to great mentors here in Kyle and Carson but with 800,000 or so members it would be impossible to be able to mentor each and everyone.
I'm not involved with the group but what I can gather it is more a case of structure and tactics than actual teachings.
Apparently, the situation has been resolved so that all members can be privvy to the gatherings.
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techhound Premium
Hey Gordon, I just saw the update after I wrote the post. But, it is interesting the amount of fervor it caused and perhaps mentoring subgroups should become a more formalized offering at WA.
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Gordon-D Premium
I agree Jim I think we could all do with a mentor at some point
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DBeatty Premium
Last I heard, Bo was opening the training to all. But I would follow the regular training and treat the other group as additional training.
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techhound Premium
The point is though, what is that additional training and if it is so good, shouldn't it become part of the regular training?
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