Thankful to be following you and reading few of your posts give encouragement to many including myself. I just came on board recently with WA and still taking the training courses. I've noted to take your 'Hiring a Writer Course' at a later time/when I am ready for it! Btw, I've heard good reviews from a family member -a business owner in the U.S., who outsources 2 of her employees (I believe through onlinejobs.ph too).

Congratulations Jerry! Your hard work has finally paid off!

Hi Jerry,

1. I would like to know what writing services you are submitting your job proposal too.
2. I would like to see your initial job proposal write up description and what sort of requirements and questions you supplied.
3. I would like to know how you narrowed down your list of initial applicants and how you chose the applicants to move forward with.
4. I would like to know more about your interview process and how you conducted it.
5. I would like to know more about your training process and how you communicate with your writers.

Thanks again Jerry. Keep up the great work.

Patrick

Jerry, I apologize I thought you were going to teach a course on writing. I am not intending on hiring a ghostwriter. If due to illness or not being able to take care of my sit for some reason, I would go to one of our local colleges and ask for help from one of their top students or for a teacher's assistance. They need the money, and I would help someone in my community. I already have my son working with just such a person, He is writing a book, On the plight of homeless children.
Again I apologize for my mix up.
Sandy

I have tried freelance portals, but it is difficult to find good quality and the same writer.

So I would be interested in knowing where you found someone you can work with where it is the same person so you can get quality. And for that price I would love starting to reinvest some of my earnings.

So mostly about where and then the process and getting it all started with a permanent agreement.

Thanks,
Mikael

Hi Jerry,
Thank you for posting this. Here are some of my questions, hopefully you can cover in your training:
- how to calculate the price e.g. per article,
- 400/month may not be affordable deal for everyone. Do you have alternative.
- Do you need a contract or terms and condition?
- How will the payment be disbursed - one payment or per completed job?

I have asked a lot. Stop now:)

Joe

Jerry,

From my own experience, you are far better to hire much more writers than you actually need. If you need 1, hire 3!.

If a particularly great writer lets you down, late with work or under performing in terms of quality. or just wants time off for whatever reason you have back up writers to allocate the work to.

For me, it takes me about 3 months on average to find a quality writer and when one plays up (or did in my case!) it affects your site.

And then that new writer you have to train to your style and expectations.

I have found, far better results and only a bit more expensive when you hire a competent VA.

And just for the record, a native writer is not necessarily better than a non-native. Sure there will be some grammar to fix

Hi Jerry, Wouldn´t it be difficult to find one writer with all the expertise which you need. I suppose it depends on what you need from them and how well you know their capabilities. To me, it would be a big risk to hire someone for the first time unless I had read some of their previous work and got an idea of their capabilities being suitable for me, Best Alan

Hiring writers is nothing new. But finding the writer to fit our needs will take some major screening and testing stages I suppose. There will be lucky hits like finding great writers in a short time but I think the norm will be...trial and error, pick those who fit the job best.

Joe

How does this hired writer get in tune with the rest of your website content? Unifying the entire content I think is one of the key items to high ranking and as well providing accurate solutions to the problem(s) you are solving in your niche.

I wonder how possible is it to get such a person or does it involve paying him for the time he spends reading through your website to have a synopsis of your style?

If I allow someone to access my website for familiarization, does that mean that am surrendering my password to a stranger giving him my Admin rights?

Having used a few different freelance writers I finally settled on one who can follow the brief with outlines I send them. I think it’s important to find someone who can write in the style you like, and who can write in a readable and engaging style. My question would be, how do you find that person?
With me it was a matter of trial and error. You need to ask for some examples of their writing style as a first step. It also helps if they have written articles in your niche or a similar one before. Again, how do you find them? Is their a short cut to finding them, other than by trial and error?

Before I got into this I dabbled in the Kindle writing business (unsuccessfully) and I learned a few sources of where to find writers but I never found any worthwhile. I had a few books written and a few articles but most of them needed rewriting or some work.

It's hard to find that balance of well-priced writing and quality work. From my experience with you so far Jerry you seem to be very helpful and straightforward.

I look forward to what you come up with and I may be able to dig up some old sources if you want.

When you hire a writer doesn't that diminish your pride in the website you've developed?

Seems like you've created a way to lose money with your website. Aren't we trying to make money here?

For my niche I imagine I could go down to the community college and find a student studying most of what i write about. For that student to spend 30 minutes typing out 1000 words off the top of their head (even at my slow 40wpm, I could do that) for 20-30 bucks is reasonable, but if you're asking for a research piece, that's not going to do it.

Will each article ever earn what you've paid for it.

I hired an artist once. She maintained the rights to the art I bought. Of course for a higher price I could buy those too. But I only needed limited rights to the art.

You would have to hire inexperienced writers who don't care to maintain any control over their material, otherwise you wouldn't be able to afford them.

Then again, if I develop my outline, titles and all, I could just go on five and hire 4 people to write 200 word pieces. I'd just add the intro and conclusion. I suppose it could be done like that.

You have a very good opportunity to hire a full time writer here with those who are wanting to get more experience writing content and making it to fit your exacting expectations. However, if they cover all the material that you want but put in a different format to what your expectations are and both are good articles from your point of view. Would you be willing to look at what they have written with an unbiased eye. They will have done what you asked but their thought processes will not be the same as your own.
Jerry

A little off topic, but an opportunity to share a funny story. I hired a writer to write an article about blockchain technology...
I got an article about chain blocks. 😂 It was a great article, but I wasn't looking for a post about hoisting heavy objects.

Anyway... just thought I'd share my hire-a-writer story, lol.

Really looking forward to your course too 😊

As far a questions, anything you can share about screening questions would be awesome.

Thanks,
Jay

Jerry

Did you give them instructions on how you like your content written? I ask because I too am looking for a writer but I'm not just looking for a writer that just puts words on a page. Its hard to find writers that are engaging and connect with the visitor.

1. My articles are at least 2K, usually 3-4+K. You can't simply rehash that amount of content so I need someone who understands my niche and can write both creatively and authoritatively within it.

2. They may be full time but how many words will they produce in a month? If they don't do it, how does that affect payment?

3. How does the contract/agreement work? You pay in advance or in arrears? Is there a contract? Are they contracte for so-many words/articles?

4. How do you go about the initial 'testing' period where you see if a writer is a good fit or not?

5. At these rates, they obviously aren't native English speakers. How clean is their copy likely to be and how much editing are you going to have to do on it? I'm afraid I am incredibly fussy and my own articles are top notch :-) I don't want to compromise on quality.

Thanks,
Ian

i would like to know your thoughts on when to start thinking about hiring someone. 400 a month is quite a bit if your site earns nothing. or is it worthwhile to get yourself established quickly

I'm looking forward to your course. When you hire a writer, is the article ready to go as is or will I need to edit it.

Hi Jerry, I would like to see how you get a writer to write for you on a regular basis. All of the sites I have been on are writers that do articles on a one time basis, or they charge their fee based on a 500 word article and when you ask them to do 1500 to 2000 word articles, they just come back and say " I charge $xx for 500 words and thats that".

so, how you get them to do the work on a regular basis is where I would be interested in learning.

My biggest question is how much editing should you expect to do after receiving the article from your writer?

I know that no writer is going to give you exactly what you would've written and there is going to be a period of time when you'll be giving quite a bit of feedback until you're both on the same page. But how much editing is reasonable when hiring a writer?

Looking forward to the training!

I'm concerned that if i make them an admin on my website, they will steal or delete stuff.

Thanks for sharing, Jerry.

I'd be extremely interested Jerry. I outsourced to a writer once. What a horrible experience it was. I ended up going through several writer's for one article. In the end I wrote the article myself. Jim

My questions are all the "how to execute" questions.

I've had one outsourcing experience for creative on Envato. And it was absolutely horrible. The final output of what I got vs. what his "portfolio" examples did not compare. I even wrote very thorough design info of what I wanted. And it was like he only got 25% of what I wrote down. What you said about detail was absolutely true with my experience.

So for hiring a writer, (I like the idea of full-time...):

What source did you use to find your writer?
How did you narrow down to a few test writers? What criteria to use / look for?
How did you get writer to agree with great cost: ($400 / 20 posts = $20 a posts.)
How did you create the training for writer? PDF, video tutorials?
Do you have some written agreement / contract with writer for how long you pay him / or ways to release him if it doesn't work?
Tips on building a lasting partnership with writer the benefits both sides.

Thanks!

Kim

Like Candp said coming up with how much to pay is a start. But I am curious just as to how it all works like do I give them limited access to write the post, or how would you get the articles and prep them to be posted. And with hiring a writer do you still post it as if you wrote it?

Well, we would be curious how you came up with a figure of $400 for a full-time writer. What constitutes "full time"?
We are sure you will cover it in depth. We have read you and know how thorough you are.
Really looking forward to it and so much appreciate your doing this.
Colette and Philip