Eureka "I Found $"!
For the past week I had been squeezing the life out of my stress-relief toy (Floyd) trying to come up with a blog that was straight out helpful. I wanted to wax poetic about something that could put us all on the same playing field for even just a moment.
Well, beating up on Floyd gave me no inspiration whatsoever. So, my next trick was a pleasant relaxing hot bath. There it happened. Akin to Archimedes' enlightenment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_(word)
I sprang from the tub with my own EUREKA (“I found it”) MOMENT!
I’ll blog about MONEY!!! Yeah, that’s the ticket. We all like money—don’t we?
So, here goes…
I have always been confused by certain common phrases about money, like…
- Do you want to make EXTRA MONEY?
Who needs the descriptive “extra”. They had me at “make money”. - “Show me the MONEY”.
No thank you, I say “GIVE me the MONEY”.
- “Money is the root of all evil”
A misquote which actually should be “…For the love of money is the root of all evil…” (…according to what translation you are reading)
- It takes Money to make Money
Nahhhh… it takes a great idea and your actions to make it happen
- You need Money to run a successful business
Maybe – but it does not have to be YOUR money. Businesses thrive and grow every day from OPM (Other People’s Money) and CUSTOMERS.
Ah, how I enjoy talking about money. Earning money, Investing money, Winning money, and my all-time favorite pass time FINDING MONEY—and I don’t mind sharing what I know about WHERE to find money, because I know there is enough for everybody to go around.
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT?
I hope so… because here it is…
MISSING MONEY and UNCLAIMED PROPERTY
State Resources
In the United States (and in certain other countries), various assets that have been determined as “abandoned property” is required by law to be turned over to the various states’ Department of Revenue. Abandoned or unclaimed property comes from many sources
- Banks and Credit Unions
- Businesses
- Court actions (bail, corrective actions, etc.)
- Overpayments
- Utilities
- Insurances and
- Government Entities, just to name a few.
Unclaimed property can be (but is not limited to):
- Lost Cash
- Bank accounts
- Uncashed checks such as payroll, insurance payments or travelers checks;
- Utilities and/or phone company deposits
- Proceeds from class action lawsuits
- Safe deposit box contents
- Insurance premiums and inheritances
- Stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc.
- Gift Certificates, Gift Cards, Money Orders
Federal Resources
The US government maintain financial databases separate and apart from our states. Unclaimed assets held by federal agencies may well include…
- Pensions
- FDIC closeouts / claims
- Class action lawsuits
- Tax refunds
- Savings Bonds
- Mortgage Insurance from government home loans
- Student loan overpayment
- Veteran Benefits and more
GIVE ME THE MONEY!!!
It is estimated that in 2014, unclaimed money being held by individual states exceeded $32,000,000,000. The federal government reported $60,000,000,000.
The government is not required to contact citizens, businesses or organizations so they depend upon us contacting them. Special databases exist to provide us information. Each state has their own Dept. of Unclaimed Property as does each federal agency which can be located on the following federal databases.
https://www.usa.gov/unclaimed-money (States and federal agencies)
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Does-the-IRS-Have-Money-Waiting-For-You%3F (Federal Taxes)
http://nupn.com/federal.htm (for International Unclaimed Property)
What and Who Should I be looking for?
The databases disclose PUBLIC INFORMATION and each state and government agency uses a different format. Generally, however, what information is visible for you to determine if the money (asset) may be yours… you can expect a file to look something like this…
The main thing to know is they will use the last name and address known to them during the particular transaction.
TIPS:
- Look up every name (maiden, married, adopted, et al) and even nicknames you have ever used.
- Look under every state you have ever lived in, gone to school, work, opened up bank accounts, etc. (Even if you paid fines or served jail time)
- If you hold a business license or have held one in the past, look up your business names
- Look for the names of your children, spouses, and relatives (even if they are deceased)
- Look up names of friends and even businesses you frequent
(NOTE: Certain states allow you to earn money independently as a FINDER / LOCATOR / INVESTIGATOR and be paid a percentage of what you find for other people / businesses by agreement. Each state varies on how much they allow and how your service is to be structured. (e. g., Washington State allows up to 5% of what you find, California allows up to 10%, etc.). All this information is provided on the Unclaimed Property website for each state.)
Be READY to Prove it is YOUR MONEY
To verify ownership of any property you find in your name… you may be asked for one or more of the following documents in proof:
- Name change document
- Birth certificate
- Verification of former address
- Original stock certificate
- Passport
- Business license
- Relationship to deceased
- Death certificate
- Verify business relationship
- Last Will & Testament
- Articles of Incorporation
- Business Authorization
- Guardianship or Power of Attorney
- Other miscellaneous documentation
C’MON… CAN I REALLY FIND MONEY?
Since the Unclaimed Money process went online (well over a decade now) I have recovered
- Over $12,800 for me (closed bank accounts, deposits, insurance premiums, retroactive payroll increases, and class action lawsuit plaintiff, closed accounts of a deceased spouse).
- Over $200,000 for family, friends, and businesses for which I was paid 5 - 10% under a FINDER’s Agreement.
With my existing home based business, whether I am building a website or editing content for a client, I run an “asset search” on them.
While working on content for one client’s website for a $500 fee… I found the state he lived in was holding $13,000 in his name. It turned out he had sold a business years before and thought he had closed out all contracts and bank accounts. Well, nope. A government contract was a slow pay (what else is new) and their payment came in after he had sold the business. Not being able to contact him after closing his accounts, the money forwarded his money to the State Dept. of Revenue until—TA DA! My EUREKA, I found it moment. My payment?… $1,300 from a very very happy client. (C’mon… wouldn’t you happily pay $1,300 to get to $11,700?)
It is such a rush when I find money for a client because they end up paying me with money they would never have had if they had not done business with me in the first place.
YES, you can FIND MONEY—if not your's maybe SOMEONE ELSE's who agrees to pay you for what you have found for them!
Hope you have found this blog of interest.
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This really works! I 'found' money for myself and some friends about a year ago. The process was really simple, I just contacted through the website link and verified my identity and was sent a check. It didn't make me rich, but it did make me smile. Great article!
Thanks Kim. Good to have someone else validate the process.
BTW... when I learned that the state I live in, updates their list of unclaimed property every 2 - 3 years, I "marked my calendar". Sure enough over the time I have been following the process—I have made 4 recoveries... so be sure and check again.
You may not get rich from FINDING MONEY this way... but sometimes we just need a little something "extra" (there's that funny word again)... you know, like to cover a payment to our WA membership, right?
Plus, keep it up for your friends, neighbors, and business associations... at 10% a find with "finds" that can range from hundreds to thousands of $$$—you may change your mind about just how RICH you can get.
Very good question. I have only been involved with finding and recovery of funds in 5 states. All of which assert that the "unclaimed money" is held in "trust" and that it is never used for investment purposes so there is no interest incurred. I therefore surmise that whether the funds are invested and the gain passed on the owners is regulated under State laws.
I recovered $800 that I had "lost" some 15 years before. The state let me know there was no interest, however, from the time they received stewardship. It was from a bank audit that found that the bank had made various errors on fees, etc. over the 10 years of my having an account with them. The bank errors were only caught because the bank was closing and changing hands (First Interstate to Wells Fargo). I would never have known about it had I never researched my name.
Utility companies make a LOT of errors on taxes, tariff rates, etc. Unless we are serious micromanagers about our money, these overpayments go unchecked until there is some sort of audit (private, governmental, or legal) that occurs. There are businesses that actually do utility audits and are compensated by a percentage of what they find. There is mega money to be made by this service.
What I am curious about is what was the money doing when being 'held'. Was it invested and if so do the actual owners get the interest.
Helen... That was such a good question that I did some superficial research with just 1 state. I found this...
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Unclaimed Property Fund for NORTH CAROLINA
https://www.nctreasurer.com/upp/Pages/What-is-Unclaimed-Property.aspx
* The unclaimed property fund is approximately $400 million.
What Happens to the Interest on the Fund?
* Interest earnings on the funds are invested to the North Carolina State Educational Assistance Authority to provide grants and loans to worthy and needy North Carolina students in State-supported institutions of higher education
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So this would indicate that this particular state DOES invest their Unclaimed Properties but that the interest only comes back through public services (i. e., grants, loans, etc.)
So one would have to look State by State for their particular practices.
Yep. I'm reading more about it. Pretty good programs they have set up, indeed. Goes full circle by empowering the state with a future of educated citizens.
Wow !!! Awesome .... Some people have written whole books on this and you do it in ONE post. This could be worth hundreds if not thousands to some of your readers. A testament to your generosity and dedication the to community here at WA... Awesome, awesome awesome. :) :)
Thanks Peter. There is a LOT more I could provide here but this is enough to get the gray matter working I think.
The whole process is surprising simple and people have built entire businesses doing this.
For the BIG BUCK$... HEIR LOCATORS work exclusively with estates. Insurance companies even pay on top of what you can recover working to locate family members and beneficiaries. Attorneys even pay LOCATORS to do this. Heck, I make money doing "asset searches" for Attorneys who make money working with estates.
You will be amazed at the names of businesses and government agencies you will pull up as having "Missing Money". Even MICROSOFT and BOEING has pages and pages under their name (like they need the money, right). Who really appreciates this kind of help are small, "mom & pop, neighborhood" business owners. They have money hung up from coupons in the thousands of $$$.
All the online information is PUBLIC and FREE (also for Canada, New Zealand, and other places overseas).
Thanks again for your support.
Hey - I'm headed out to "the bush" to get in some hunting and fishing. I really get nuggets of wisdom when I'm foraging for food!
Probably take the gold pan and sluice box along, too to see what real nuggets I can bring back, too!
Like I said... it does NOT always "take $$$ to make $$$".
Excellent. Excellent. Not another opinion post but a real guide to help us poor folks.
I have to applaud this article !!! I wish I had a way of giving this post 5 stars. *****
I'd like to contribute something. Be sure to check the floor when at the cash register at 7-11 or where ever. I taught my daughter that trick when she was 11 years old and she made $20.00 on one single trip, lol.
Great article.
Ha... try at the CASINOS. I was at the "Queen" a couple of years ago (I know you know which one that is) and I found a raggedy envelope full of money (different denominations) outside one of their entry ways. I did not even count it but took it to their Security office. They "comped" me dinner and $20 to play at the tables while they figured out what to do. Within an hour they paged me and gave me the envelope back. I was told it would be more trouble for them to "account" for the money than to give it to me.
It was over $1,200. Yeah, I LOVE FINDING MONEY!
I'm scared of the One-Armed Bandits. As much as I like to FIND MONEY - the slots LOVE TAKING MY MONEY.
I'm talking about Black on the Big Wheel!!! Best house odds!
Hey, did you know that the sum of all the numbers on a Roulette Wheel is 666? Uhhh Uh Ahhh Ah (that's supposed to be spooky music).
I didn't know it was 666
(dum, dum, dum Omen music)
I think I better stick with the slots.
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Many years ago, before this got out to the public, I learned how to help people recover this money for a fee, only to find that AZ required a Private Investigator's License, (maybe the only state) which I determined to and did acquire, got guidance from an attorney who said most of the 'big' money was 'found' by the local lawyers, and then I found they scrambled the addresses at the State Office. Nor did they make public the amounts due, either, as many states do. Against all odds, I still found people! I did not investigate what they did with the 'trust' here. I found some money for myself as well!
Wow, Liz... very interesting. You show the differential practices between the states. I know what you mean about the PI licensing. I encountered that. However, many of our state regulations just require a written agreement with certain specified terms.
I also found the issue with amounts not being disclosed. As in my example of WA State, they only say under or over $100. You never know the actual amount until you validate ownership!
What is funny is CA publicly lists the full amount so you will see stuff like $.35—but I also found listings with up to 7 figures... I sure wanted to go for them, but like you, I found the big $$ (insurance payouts and estates) were sought by attorneys. I found an attorney I Joint Ventured with a little while (after finding $$ she was owed). She eventually joined a larger firm so bye bye JV.
Awesome to hear you recovered $$ in the process. It really is a RU$H when you do, right?
Sounds like you are a real Go-Getter—GOOD FOR YOU!