Today's Having Beer with Kyle, triggered this question, that I am sure others also have.
Without divulging to much proprietary detail, I would like to know the "weight"
Very I use it in all my articles :) Max 5000 characters. Cool Strategies for Article Design Optional Content
Hey Abie, Happy Easter FriSatSu.
I have watched this video and use the Optional Area frequently, especially when I have a contrarian point I want to make.
But when does our optional area input topple the original direction of the content writer?
It is a tool, GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out); what you feed it will produce. How good is your optional content?
Of course, it should not be copied word for word. Facts need to be checked and cross-referenced. Additionally, your voice, experience, style, and emotions need to be incorporated to polish the piece, making it ready to serve its purpose.
You might remove entire sections and add new ones. There have been instances when I didn’t like what I got and changed it all.
Sometimes, it doesn’t follow your intentions, or we may need training to prompt it correctly so that we can use it effectively.
There’s a lot of trial and error involved in the process. However, it is mostly worthwhile as long as it is treated as a tool. It does help with productivity.
===
This may change as we progress and more advancements are added.
Lol Abie,
That is my question. How far can I push it before the output becomes rubbish?
It does not start out being a trash producer, but it definitely can become one.
There is a fine line somewhere.
If we add any content to the optional area is the entire outline based on our optional details?
Are we supplementing the "original" outline to include what we want as in an extra section?
Or is it working the optional information into the "original"?
I have not been able to determine which way the designer is flowing.
Hopefull this clarifies what I am asking.
You have to check the article on an article basis and decide how worthy it is.
Where's the evidence here? "It does not start out being a trash producer, but it definitely can become one."
Fine line, maybe... I am yet to realize it.
You can edit your outline anytime you think it does not meet your needs. You can add a section or diminish another. You control that.
I don't understand what you mean by "Original." - Can you clarify?
Maybe we're both in the same boat here :)
Abie, we may be in the same boat as optional area users.
Here are the assumptions that I have
1. Add nothing to the "optional details" and get an article designed to cover our topic.
2. We can "change" the output by adding "optional details". If the optional details are "minor" additions, the outline will stay relatively the same as the original nonmodified outline.
But let's say that we take Eric's deep dive bullet-pointed details from the top 2 ranking sites, and add that to the optional detail area.
At what point does the AI-created outline stop producing the outline for the "Title Content" we wanted to create and simply produce something based entirely on the optional details that we fed it? So my question is
3. How many "optional details" will it take to completely transform the original (no added optional details) outline into something completely different from what it would have created had we added nothing?
When does our "Garbage In" overrun the process and give us "Garbage Out"?
Put another way, how hard will the AI "fight" to keep its original output true to the concept of the title versus giving up and providing us with what it thinks we want?
I hope you are enjoying your Easter.
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Today's Having Beer with Kyle, triggered this question, that I am sure others also have.
Without divulging to much proprietary detail, I would like to know the "weight"
Hey Donald,
Not having used the WA AI generator, I can only speak on what other authorities have clearly stated about using AI generated content and that is that it takes time to train any AI generator.
Plsu, you have to double check the output so it does NOT replace actual researching, and you need to reword the output to make it yours.
If your output sounds like a robot made it, your content will do you more harm than good... and that is a given.
It's similar to the old spinner software... you have to rewrite the output to make it yours.
Hope that helps you.
Trish,
I highly recommend the AI Content writer. The outlines that it creates are quite good.
I occasionally create contrarian content (Google is Dead, Don't Pick Niches of Lists, etc) and add my take to the AI content generator. It does well with this as well. I have a weird curiosity about things at times.
But how far can I push the generator without it leaving its original intent in content outlines?
Very I use it in all my articles :) Max 5000 characters. Cool Strategies for Article Design Optional Content
Hey Abie, Happy Easter FriSatSu.
I have watched this video and use the Optional Area frequently, especially when I have a contrarian point I want to make.
But when does our optional area input topple the original direction of the content writer?
It is a tool, GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out); what you feed it will produce. How good is your optional content?
Of course, it should not be copied word for word. Facts need to be checked and cross-referenced. Additionally, your voice, experience, style, and emotions need to be incorporated to polish the piece, making it ready to serve its purpose.
You might remove entire sections and add new ones. There have been instances when I didn’t like what I got and changed it all.
Sometimes, it doesn’t follow your intentions, or we may need training to prompt it correctly so that we can use it effectively.
There’s a lot of trial and error involved in the process. However, it is mostly worthwhile as long as it is treated as a tool. It does help with productivity.
===
This may change as we progress and more advancements are added.
Lol Abie,
That is my question. How far can I push it before the output becomes rubbish?
It does not start out being a trash producer, but it definitely can become one.
There is a fine line somewhere.
If we add any content to the optional area is the entire outline based on our optional details?
Are we supplementing the "original" outline to include what we want as in an extra section?
Or is it working the optional information into the "original"?
I have not been able to determine which way the designer is flowing.
Hopefull this clarifies what I am asking.
You have to check the article on an article basis and decide how worthy it is.
Where's the evidence here? "It does not start out being a trash producer, but it definitely can become one."
Fine line, maybe... I am yet to realize it.
You can edit your outline anytime you think it does not meet your needs. You can add a section or diminish another. You control that.
I don't understand what you mean by "Original." - Can you clarify?
Maybe we're both in the same boat here :)
Abie, we may be in the same boat as optional area users.
Here are the assumptions that I have
1. Add nothing to the "optional details" and get an article designed to cover our topic.
2. We can "change" the output by adding "optional details". If the optional details are "minor" additions, the outline will stay relatively the same as the original nonmodified outline.
But let's say that we take Eric's deep dive bullet-pointed details from the top 2 ranking sites, and add that to the optional detail area.
At what point does the AI-created outline stop producing the outline for the "Title Content" we wanted to create and simply produce something based entirely on the optional details that we fed it? So my question is
3. How many "optional details" will it take to completely transform the original (no added optional details) outline into something completely different from what it would have created had we added nothing?
When does our "Garbage In" overrun the process and give us "Garbage Out"?
Put another way, how hard will the AI "fight" to keep its original output true to the concept of the title versus giving up and providing us with what it thinks we want?
I hope you are enjoying your Easter.
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Normally I would suggest creating one post a day on FB, or Instagram. But if I am creating a new presence on these 2 platforms, without followers currently, as in just created
Check your target audience hangouts; then, you can focus your efforts on those channels.
With Pinterest, you have a hidden board, so you can add the pins there and share them in due course.
Good job you are; they definitely complement our websites.
Otherwise, you have FANTASTIC responses here; kindly let us know if you require additional assistance.
You are well covered here with some excellent advice, and guidance.
Please let the community here know if you still have any further questions.
-Mike
One post at a time, posting naturally. If new followers arrive and see all these posts published on the same day they’ll back out thinking you’re a bot.
Eric,
The caveat to this is two-fold.
1 I have no followers currently. Brand new FB & IG accounts. If I "preload" 25 posts, before "the store opens" will it hurt? and...
2. I have 50 more to schedule naturally.
I have been a busy beaver creating content so there is plenty of it.
Does that change the equation and answer?
Don
Literally no one preloads their social media 😂 do it naturally like a “human” so your future followers that arrive at your don’t think you’re a bot. That’s what I’m talking about. Don’t overthink it.
Hi - I definitely would not do this with Pinterest.
Start with a maximum of 3 pins, scheduled throughout the day, for the first couple of weeks.
Optimize your profile and your boards, and save a couple of relevant pins from other people, to show you are engaging with the platform and not spamming it.
If you are asking to post 25 things immediately onto your social, then yes, I would highly discourage you to do that - you're going to be seen as spammy and could be banned.
If I understand you correctly, then I would recommend creating the 25 posts, but use the schedule feature that each of them has, and just schedule those posts out over the next 25 days. That way, you knock out two birds with one stone - have content for your socials for the next month, and you're showing social that you're consistently posting.
If you have more time over those next 25 days and want to post more, then you can do so (Starting out, I wouldn't do any more than 2 posts/pins/etc per social), and continue scheduling ahead.
Does that make sense?
Andy,
What you say makes sense if I had followers. I definitely would not want to drown them out.
But would you apply the same logic to a new site that has zero followers? I just created a FB & IG account. No one is there.
I know, never had a FB or IG account and this is 2023?!?!?!
Great question!
The answer is NO, there is no penalty in doing so.
Having a handful of images, posts and links in your new social media before you 'launch' is totally OK!
Thanks Jay,
Thank you for taking the time to answer.
I have downloaded Buffer to handle the chores of consistent having thing scheduled. Bew posts will go in the hopper for scheduling. new posts.
Hopefully this will keep me consistent with putting my brand out there.
I am going to smash the post button on all of these.
Again, thank you.
Don
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Normally I would suggest creating one post a day on FB, or Instagram. But if I am creating a new presence on these 2 platforms, without followers currently, as in just created
Check your target audience hangouts; then, you can focus your efforts on those channels.
With Pinterest, you have a hidden board, so you can add the pins there and share them in due course.
Good job you are; they definitely complement our websites.
Otherwise, you have FANTASTIC responses here; kindly let us know if you require additional assistance.
You are well covered here with some excellent advice, and guidance.
Please let the community here know if you still have any further questions.
-Mike
One post at a time, posting naturally. If new followers arrive and see all these posts published on the same day they’ll back out thinking you’re a bot.
Eric,
The caveat to this is two-fold.
1 I have no followers currently. Brand new FB & IG accounts. If I "preload" 25 posts, before "the store opens" will it hurt? and...
2. I have 50 more to schedule naturally.
I have been a busy beaver creating content so there is plenty of it.
Does that change the equation and answer?
Don
Literally no one preloads their social media 😂 do it naturally like a “human” so your future followers that arrive at your don’t think you’re a bot. That’s what I’m talking about. Don’t overthink it.
Hi - I definitely would not do this with Pinterest.
Start with a maximum of 3 pins, scheduled throughout the day, for the first couple of weeks.
Optimize your profile and your boards, and save a couple of relevant pins from other people, to show you are engaging with the platform and not spamming it.
If you are asking to post 25 things immediately onto your social, then yes, I would highly discourage you to do that - you're going to be seen as spammy and could be banned.
If I understand you correctly, then I would recommend creating the 25 posts, but use the schedule feature that each of them has, and just schedule those posts out over the next 25 days. That way, you knock out two birds with one stone - have content for your socials for the next month, and you're showing social that you're consistently posting.
If you have more time over those next 25 days and want to post more, then you can do so (Starting out, I wouldn't do any more than 2 posts/pins/etc per social), and continue scheduling ahead.
Does that make sense?
Andy,
What you say makes sense if I had followers. I definitely would not want to drown them out.
But would you apply the same logic to a new site that has zero followers? I just created a FB & IG account. No one is there.
I know, never had a FB or IG account and this is 2023?!?!?!
Great question!
The answer is NO, there is no penalty in doing so.
Having a handful of images, posts and links in your new social media before you 'launch' is totally OK!
Thanks Jay,
Thank you for taking the time to answer.
I have downloaded Buffer to handle the chores of consistent having thing scheduled. Bew posts will go in the hopper for scheduling. new posts.
Hopefully this will keep me consistent with putting my brand out there.
I am going to smash the post button on all of these.
Again, thank you.
Don
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I am using Blocksy for the theme if helpful. I am using the WordPress Block editor and want to change the background color to one block of text. I have searched Google and Wo
You have FANTASTIC responses here; kindly let us know if you require additional assistance.
Here's what you do:
In the block editor, you should have a right column. perhaps it is hidden.
At the top, next to PUBLISH, there is an icon that looks like a webs page column with sidebar.
Click on that and the right bar will return.
Select your paragraph, look to the right column and select the block tab.
Here you can color the text or the background.
Click on the background color to open the color palette.
Voila!
Rudy
Thanks, Larry,
I figured it out. I didn't want to change the whole theme. Going from the WA Content Writer to WP is a learning curve. You can see what I wanted to accomplish below.
Thanks again
Don
Hi Don
Select the text in your block in the block editor then go to the side bar and select the style tab and background color.
Frank 🎸
Frank, I wish that it was that easy. I am afraid that when I converted it to the Block Editor from Classic Editor in WordPress, I lost the right side toolbar to change colors. For some reason, I cannot revert to the Classic Editor, and now I have lost the thread.
Ok, After 2.5 hours of playing around with this, I accidentally hit the settings button on the top... I will never forget about that button!
Hi Don
Try this:
Open a new post in the Block Editor. Now create a new paragraph block and copy your text into it.
Change the background of the text to gold.
Copy that block.
Go back to your original article in the block editor.
Add a new paragraph block and paste the block you copied from the new post into it.
Frank 🎸
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How do I go about adding a color background to 1 block?
I am using Blocksy for the theme if helpful. I am using the WordPress Block editor and want to change the background color to one block of text. I have searched Google and Wo
You have FANTASTIC responses here; kindly let us know if you require additional assistance.
Here's what you do:
In the block editor, you should have a right column. perhaps it is hidden.
At the top, next to PUBLISH, there is an icon that looks like a webs page column with sidebar.
Click on that and the right bar will return.
Select your paragraph, look to the right column and select the block tab.
Here you can color the text or the background.
Click on the background color to open the color palette.
Voila!
Rudy
Thanks, Larry,
I figured it out. I didn't want to change the whole theme. Going from the WA Content Writer to WP is a learning curve. You can see what I wanted to accomplish below.
Thanks again
Don
Hi Don
Select the text in your block in the block editor then go to the side bar and select the style tab and background color.
Frank 🎸
Frank, I wish that it was that easy. I am afraid that when I converted it to the Block Editor from Classic Editor in WordPress, I lost the right side toolbar to change colors. For some reason, I cannot revert to the Classic Editor, and now I have lost the thread.
Ok, After 2.5 hours of playing around with this, I accidentally hit the settings button on the top... I will never forget about that button!
Hi Don
Try this:
Open a new post in the Block Editor. Now create a new paragraph block and copy your text into it.
Change the background of the text to gold.
Copy that block.
Go back to your original article in the block editor.
Add a new paragraph block and paste the block you copied from the new post into it.
Frank 🎸
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Pinterest assistance is needed. I have spent the last couple of hours looking for an answer. I have 2 Pinterest accounts. First, is 11MrDon11 using the email xx...xx@gmail.
Thanks all,
Taking a break, grabbing a bottle of wine, and dinner, to return later. Again, thank you.
Within the madness of installing and uninstalling, I made an excellent discovery. It is more in line with Andy's comment. It all depends on which underlying account is open in another tab. If I have the wrong account open in a background tab, it posts to that one. Have both open, it posts to the original account.
Hi - I personally don't post to Pinterest directly from my websites using a plugin.
I create my pins in Canva and upload them directly on Pinterest.
Obviously, this is more work, but I am seeing a lot of success doing it this way.
I think I see why. Your pictures stay unique and other posts do not come up using the same picture.
If uninstalling and reinstalling doesn't work when clicking share make sure you are logged in on the business account and not the personal one.
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Pinterest posting issues w/sassy share?
Pinterest assistance is needed. I have spent the last couple of hours looking for an answer. I have 2 Pinterest accounts. First, is 11MrDon11 using the email xx...xx@gmail.
Thanks all,
Taking a break, grabbing a bottle of wine, and dinner, to return later. Again, thank you.
Within the madness of installing and uninstalling, I made an excellent discovery. It is more in line with Andy's comment. It all depends on which underlying account is open in another tab. If I have the wrong account open in a background tab, it posts to that one. Have both open, it posts to the original account.
Hi - I personally don't post to Pinterest directly from my websites using a plugin.
I create my pins in Canva and upload them directly on Pinterest.
Obviously, this is more work, but I am seeing a lot of success doing it this way.
I think I see why. Your pictures stay unique and other posts do not come up using the same picture.
If uninstalling and reinstalling doesn't work when clicking share make sure you are logged in on the business account and not the personal one.
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I have noticed that I zoom in or out in the browser the actual appearance of the site changes. Menus turn into hamburger menus, and sidebars disappear. A couple of items also
Certainly, What I see on my screen is not what others see on their screen.
A banner and some images push text to the extreme, and the sidebar disappears and isn't available. We are both looking at this at 100% zoom on our screens. I can make it happen when I change the zoom levels in chrome.
Can you give us the URL if you may?
You have Kraken installed by default. You may want to change the size of the image.
Depending on your banner, you may have no option to modify it; you'd have to check with vendors' terms and conditions.
Is your theme responsive?
I took a road trip to the mountains and lost cell service. My site is settingpoints.com The theme is responsive.
Nothing to be concerned about. Thats a good thing when your screen changes like that. It means your website is responsive., mobile ready...
Rudy
Thank you for the quick reply. I have had people mention that the site appears different from what I intended, having sidebars or not, having menus.
Youre welcome. If you look at your website from your cell phone, you will see a different view of tour website than you would see from your desktop/laptop computer.
A website view from deaktop is squeezed into a one column view for cell phone viewing, and a wider 2 column view, or a 'mini me' version, of the desktop view.
If your website were not mobile ready, you would have to slide your screen from side to side to see rhe entire web page.
Hope that helps...
Rudy
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Browser zoom skews appearance?
I have noticed that I zoom in or out in the browser the actual appearance of the site changes. Menus turn into hamburger menus, and sidebars disappear. A couple of items also
Certainly, What I see on my screen is not what others see on their screen.
A banner and some images push text to the extreme, and the sidebar disappears and isn't available. We are both looking at this at 100% zoom on our screens. I can make it happen when I change the zoom levels in chrome.
Can you give us the URL if you may?
You have Kraken installed by default. You may want to change the size of the image.
Depending on your banner, you may have no option to modify it; you'd have to check with vendors' terms and conditions.
Is your theme responsive?
I took a road trip to the mountains and lost cell service. My site is settingpoints.com The theme is responsive.
Nothing to be concerned about. Thats a good thing when your screen changes like that. It means your website is responsive., mobile ready...
Rudy
Thank you for the quick reply. I have had people mention that the site appears different from what I intended, having sidebars or not, having menus.
Youre welcome. If you look at your website from your cell phone, you will see a different view of tour website than you would see from your desktop/laptop computer.
A website view from deaktop is squeezed into a one column view for cell phone viewing, and a wider 2 column view, or a 'mini me' version, of the desktop view.
If your website were not mobile ready, you would have to slide your screen from side to side to see rhe entire web page.
Hope that helps...
Rudy
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Hey Donald,
Not having used the WA AI generator, I can only speak on what other authorities have clearly stated about using AI generated content and that is that it takes time to train any AI generator.
Plsu, you have to double check the output so it does NOT replace actual researching, and you need to reword the output to make it yours.
If your output sounds like a robot made it, your content will do you more harm than good... and that is a given.
It's similar to the old spinner software... you have to rewrite the output to make it yours.
Hope that helps you.
Trish,
I highly recommend the AI Content writer. The outlines that it creates are quite good.
I occasionally create contrarian content (Google is Dead, Don't Pick Niches of Lists, etc) and add my take to the AI content generator. It does well with this as well. I have a weird curiosity about things at times.
But how far can I push the generator without it leaving its original intent in content outlines?