Warner Music Group + UMG Bogus Claims

Last Update: May 21, 2021

This is the second time around now, probably around 8 months apart that I have received absolute nonsense bogus copyright infringement claims on a 100% originally created video of mine that contains absolutely 0 music and is 100% my own voice speaking throughout the video on the topic: "Jobs During Coronavirus", first by Universal Music Group and around 8 months later by Warner Music Group. Both these massive companies were forced to retract their ludicrous bogus claims and release my video indefinitely from their ludicrous bogus claims.

For your information, this was not a YouTube issue, the video got flagged on Facebook where I posted it on my own personal Facebook Business Page. UMG + Warner Music Group claimed that 30 seconds of my video contained their content? My reply in my dispute was more or less "What are you smoking? What is your claim? What 30 seconds? My video contains no music, it is 100% my voice speaking throughout the video and 100% my own original created video".

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So the result on both occassions was that my video got blocked worldwide until I filed my dispute and they had time to investigate it to release my video from their bogus claims. Is it not so very interesting that these massive companies can just do whatever they want, make ludicrous copyright claims as they go on their merry way via their very clunky automated software, obviously flagging content it should not be flagging, cost you and me a lot of money in the process and what compensation do you and I get for the financial damages they have caused through their bogus claims? The answer is 0. Yet, did it swing the other way, they would have probably taken you and I to court and sued us for thousands of dollars.

Just imagine I make a bogus copyright infringement claim on one of their videos that cost them thousands in the process. I will certainly get sued for thousands of dollars for making false copyright infringement claims.

So what is the consequence for UMG and Warner Music Group going around making false claims of copyright infringement on the online marketer/online entrepreneur's videos like yours and mine? The answer is probably, nothing.

Question:

Do you think that there is anything that you and I the small online marketer/entrepreneur can do to bring these massive corporations to order and face the consequences for their wreckless and unjust behaviour? Or is it a matter of the rich and powerful always getting away with supressing and bullying the little guy without any reprimand, consequence or justice?

Ps. Should you be interested to see my video: "Jobs During Coronavirus" just to see for yourself how ludicrous these bogus claims were, you are welcome to navigate to my YouTube channel which you will find posted in my WA dedicated area under my profile on the right hand side. It is the link listed at the very bottom.


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AlexEvans Premium Plus
Incredibly frustrating for you, glad that it got sorted out.

Playing devil's advocate, send them an invoice for time and inconvenience. If they don't pay it start charging interest on the over due amount.

On an aside, came across a photographer who got taken to task by Gettys the crazy in that case, it was original work an image taken by the photographer.
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szeeman Premium
Alex, this sounds like a plan lol. I wonder how they would react to it? In my mind I think they will obviously not take any notice of it, but what if they do and actually pay me for the inconvenience caused lol?

And yet another crazy example you mentioned above. I think governments need to put some legislation in place to allow those that do not have the money or power like these big corporations to bring them to book and sue them without us having to be concerned about legal costs involved for suing the big corporations for false claims and infringement on our intellectual property rights.
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Mruxton Premium Plus
Howzit Schalk,
Sorry to hear about your run in with the BIG BOYS'
I like the idea from Alex, you have nothing to lose.
As they say:-
"Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained"
Go for it.

Cheers
Murray
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szeeman Premium
I will definitely think about it lol. As you mentioned, nothing to lose. :)
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Mruxton Premium Plus
Will await your reply.
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szeeman Premium
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JeffreyBrown Premium
Thanks for bring this to everyone's attention, Schalk! This is a sad state of affairs as the powers that be of the world continue to spiral down into the toilet, IMHO! Karma is a beautiful thing!
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szeeman Premium
Jeff, I do hope that somewhere down the line the reckless bullying behaviour of big corporations will get its due day of Karma and legislation put into place to curb their bullying behaviour.
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JeffreyBrown Premium
I hope so too, Schalk, but sadly, politicians and elected leaders are part of the problem. They enable these corporations to do this!
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jghwebbrand Premium
Thanks for sharing what the big corps are doing these days. I certainly wonder what kind of research they do before they make their false claims.

It certainly takes away from your business to file the dispute and get some of your work tied up. Too bad they don't get a penalty for bogus claims.

Glad you stood your ground and glad your work is released again.
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szeeman Premium
Yes, I certainly do think in future there needs to be some kind of way that big corporations are held accountable for their actions in order to protect the everyday Joe from their bullying behaviour.

I am also very curious to know how their automated software that flags videos etc. works. Will be very interesting to know. Clearly not working as effectively as it should.
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JerryMcCoy Premium Plus
Glad you stuck up for yourself and what is right.
Jerry
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szeeman Premium
Thanks, Jerry. I do believe in principles and have a very strong sense of right and wrong. FB also threatened that if I lose the dispute that it would have a devastating consequence for my FB account lol. How very helpful. So you get bullied by UMG + Warner Music Group and then FB too lol. :)
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JeffreyBrown Premium
They are all likely in cahoots, Schalk!
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szeeman Premium
That was my thinking exactly.
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JeffreyBrown Premium
Fakebook is heading for a big tumble, IMHO!
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szeeman Premium
I guess time will tell 😊
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JeffreyBrown Premium
Yes, it will!
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JrzyGrlBJ Premium
Sorry you had to go through that unpleasantness. Glad that they had to release their claims. That stuff is so unfortunate and very unfair.

Regards,
Barbara
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szeeman Premium
Thanks Barbara. It seems like it is a lot more common than first realised and loads of posts out there in this regard unfortunately. This is what one of the commenters suggested which sounds like a good plan.

"There needs to be repercussions for these types of incorrect claims. I think it's important that copyright owners have a way to protect their works on YouTube but these larger publishers in particular are so aggressive because there is no reason for them not to be.

They face no consequences for getting it wrong. I think YouTube has a '3 strikes' rule for creators who infringe - maybe they need something similar for false claims. If you are found to have made 3 false claims within a 12 month period you are not allowed to manually claim for the next 12 months.

Alternatively a rule similar to the 'challenge' rule in the NFL - you get three claim ' credits'. If you use a credit correctly you get it back. Use it incorrectly and you lose it for the next 12 months."
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JrzyGrlBJ Premium
That sounds pretty logical to me, especially the one about the challenge rule like in football.
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szeeman Premium
Certainly not a bad suggestion at all and quite a practical one too.
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JrzyGrlBJ Premium
I agree.
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