Hear no Evil, See no Evil, Speak no Evil
I am Sorry!
I just have to go against the grain here! I don't want to hear, see or speak evil, but I am very disappointed, frustrated and saddened by what I have been experiencing here. I have been here going on almost 3 years, and I have reached out to 5 or 6 different men (all claiming to be successful??) and asked them for help on different things over the last 2 years. In most cases, I have read an article they have published and have tried to get answers regarding that article. One man told me he wanted me to pay him for his help, two others basically told me to get lost and scolded me for reaching out, one said he would help, but then told me he could not be bothered and two others never even bothered to get back to me. I contacted the last man 9 days ago, and I have yet to hear from him? I even sent him another message and asked him to at least just tell me he would not help me, but I still have not heard from him??
I am not going to name names here, except for the ONE PERSON that helped me out. I contacted Boomer (Robert), and he was very gracious and answered all of my questions and also challenged me on a couple of things. I was so excited and thankful that he actually helped me! THANK YOU ROBERT!!!
Also, I have reached out to several women, and ALL OF THESE WOMEN have always responded graciously. So I am going to give a shout out to UPSGirl, Loes, Marion Black, Jelena, and Erin. I also met Lidia online, and we became close friends and help each other out. If I have excluded anyone that helped me, just know that I really appreciated it! So I just want to know what is up with this? Why are the men re-acting this way? Has any other woman had these same experiences?
Now I know there is nothing that says they have to help me, or anyone else for that matter. But what really upsets me is the fact that ALL OF THEM post at the bottom of their articles the following ( or something similar): If you have any questions or need help in any way, please reach out. One even complained that newbies want everything from such people and give nothing in return?? What? What is a newbie supposed to give in return? When I first started here, I knew ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about anything web or website related, and I am still technically challenged. Many newbies are in the same boat I was in. So I want to know what we are supposed to give back to the experienced person here in exchange for help?? Can someone tell me that? I thought this community was built on helping each other and all of us helping the other to reach our goals so that ALL OF US CAN BE SUCCESSFUL! I have nothing to offer the experienced as half the time I still do not know what I am doing. But I always try to pay it forward. I am on here every night answering questions that I do know the answers to. I am trying to help the newbies get over the hurdles they are encountering.
Before I end my rant, I just want to say this: If YOU have no intention of helping me or other members, please remove that statement from the bottom of your articles! It is very disheartening and disappointing to reach out and then get the responses I have gotten or, no response at all!!! I am sure if I was a customer you would not treat me that way!! So why do you treat me that way as one of the members of this community?
Now that my rant is over, I want to express my appreciation and thanks to everyone here that does reach out and help others. I know when I first started, I asked A LOT OF QUESTIONS and I got answers, usually right away, from different members of the community. I have been here almost 3 years and I plan to be here for the long haul. I hope someday I will not need anyone's help to realize my dreams, but I am still not there. And I know there are many, many members that are not yet there either. But one thing you can be sure of --- if you ask me for help, I will help you if I can and if I have the knowledge to do so. If I cannot help you I will definitely let you know. But it won't be because I am too stuck on myself to give of my time or my knowledge. When I am pulling in $5,000-$10,000 per month, I will still be here helping the newbies and anyone else that needs help! I thought that was what we were supposed to do when we are making money while we sleep and enjoying the laptop lifestyle??
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So sorry to hear that this has happened to you. To be honest, the best ways to get help is to either post in the chat, or post a question on WA, more people see them, and can respond faster than waiting for just one person to respond to an email.
Sometimes life gets busy, and people don't have the time to reply, or to be honest don't know the answer, and don't want to make themselves look the fool for not knowing, so they react poorly. I'm not making excuses for them, just reach out to the community in general in the future as you will get a lot more help than depending on just one person. :-)
I have decided to just post my questions on WA. The reason I sent private messages is because that is what was requested if I needed help. And many times they were in reference to an article said person had written. I felt it was better to ask said person, since he wrote the article. Many questions were very specific per said article. But I will figure it out from this point forward. Take Care.
That’s terrible to hear how you’ve been treated. Shame on those guys who responded to you the way they did.
Forget those guys because there are others out there who believe in giving back and will help you.
I’m glad you posted this!
Better days are ahead,
Kammy
Thank you for responding, Kammy. I appreciate it! I will be reaching out to others that I know will help me. I guess I have been asking the wrong men??? Good luck in your quest. Take Care.
Shirley,
I hear what you are saying and it is sad to say the least. As a newbie of not three months if I get asked for help, I do one of three things, say sorry not got a clue, refer them to where I think they should go, or answer the question. My sin is that I can be slow in answering often up to three days, due to the huge amount of mails I get on here.
So I hope you get better support in future.
Thank you for your support. I do not have a problem with someone being slow. I have been waiting for 12 days to hear from the last one. NOTHING! I will even wait a week, but not to respond at all after almost two weeks is unacceptable to me. I worked in drapery design for many years, and I would never had made a customer wait more than 2 days. Also, I guess I come from a different era. I am a baby boomer, and was raised to honor my word. That is really all one really has -- honor and integrity.
I am sure I have been asking the wrong men. I just did not know it.
I will figure it out. You are a newbie and you will learn even a lot more in the next few months. This training can be overwhelming, so ask questions when you get stuck. And keep asking until you really understand it. Good Luck on your journey! Take Care.
Stay positive Shirley, maybe they could not have helped, and did not know how to go about letting you know. Maybe they still trying to get the information to you. Glad that you got it all sort out though, that what make this community great.
Make it a great day!
Yes, there are always a few rotten apples in every barrel! I guess this is no different. But when you consider 1.4 million members, they are just a drop in the bucket!! This community, for the most part, is wonderful and supportive. I have made several really good friends here also. Have a FABULOUS DAY!!
I am glad you can understand why I am so disappointed. I always try to believe the best in people, but some do not practice what they preach! And I have always had a problem with that because if I say I am going to do something, you can bet the farm that it will get done! I was just raised that way. I guess I come from a different generation (I am a baby boomer) and my word is my promise that I will do whatever is asked.
I have no hope that any of those men will step up at this point. But I know there are a lot of others here that will. I guess I have just been asking the wrong MEN!!! Take Care.
Yes. I can understand one or two not responding for a variety of reasons. But just one responding is not acceptable.
Thank You Shirley. I am not going to give up! I do have a pretty thick skin as I have developed it over the last 65 years! But everytime I reach out and something like this happens, it does upset me some. I try to let it go and move on. But each time brings up the other times. Like I said, there are some wonderful members here! Take Care.
Well that is disappointing to hear. I am very sorry that you haven't experienced the help and support you were looking for. At least not on the male side of the WA community.
I am not the best judge in this situation since I don't know who you contacted, nor whether they really are as successful as you say they claim.
But from what you've said, this doesn't sound right to me, those members should have responded to your inquiries, though it's likely they were simply unavailable if they are top ranking.
At the very least, if someone contacts me, I will let them know I can't help them, or more commonly, I will give them a link or a quick bit of advice to help them along their way.
Sorry to hear some people don't carry the same philosophy. :/
Thank You for your input. I agree that everyone should try and respond to anyone that contacts them. I just think it is deceitful to put the fact that you will help, and then not even respond, or respond in a negative way. I have the same philosopy as you. I think it comes down to common courtesy.
I think it comes down to timing a lot of the time, it isn't that people don't want to help you, but those that are active in the community at the moment will give you the most responsive help.
People go away on vacations, people are busy outside of WA or working on your website, so you can't always assume people will get back to you right away just because they have a profile here.
My recommendation if you ever feel stuck and need instant help, jump in a live chat and you will get it. I am also available, as are many others within the comments of the training (usually get a response within minutes), and of course you can create your own questions/blog posts here at WA where the community will chime in and give you feedback. ;)
Hi Kyle. Thank You for your input. I know that people are busy, have their own lives and own problems. I don't expect anyone to get back to me right away. I just want them to get back to me. An example is Boomer. He responded after 6 days, but he responded and helped me. And I let him know how much I appreciated it!
Also, I do not require immediate help. I usually wait for an answer and move on and work on other things. But I think I will try a different tactic, as you suggest. If I read an article by someone, I will just post all of my questions in my own blog post or in live chat. It also seems you are more active now than in the past. I see comments from you all the time. I will contact you in the future also. I just hate to contact you because you have a million people to take care of!!!
I just wanted to get that off my chest. It has been bothering me for some time. I just thought that these "successful men" would be willing to help me, but I guess I was wrong. But I will approach it differently in the future! Take Care.
I'm sorry you have experienced this from members here. However, I have found that those who will help far exceed those who are not interested in helping. And Yes, a shout out to all the wonderful WA WOMEN members who give so much within this community. But there are also many awesome WA MEN members here who give so much. Don't stop reaching out for help when you need it - you will find one of those great "helpers" if you don't give up. In fact, SUCCESS is all about not giving up. Have a great day - Shirley
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I am sorry you had to experience this. Glad to hear you are taking the high road of self-respect and love and will continue to do right in building this world by helping others if you are able to.
Always bank good Karma!
Thank You! I have been a helper all of my life. I just cannot help myself, but I guess that can't be said by these guys. I'm sure they had the answers since it was their articles that I was responding to. I will never know why they chose to act the way they did. It does not matter anymore. I am over it and will continue to help anyone that asks, even AFTER I am successful. I have old fashioned standards being a baby boomer.
I love the image. Those are definitely things that cannot be bought. You either possess them or you don't. And I am with you on good Karma! I have seen what bad Karma can do! Take Care.