What Should Be Done?
I definitely think that all Newbies should be given more detailed instruction, in their initial phases of training, about the difference between a Page and a Post, and what their specific functions are. Pages and posts may visually look the same, but they have different formats and are designed for different uses in a website. It is imperative that all of us know this information before we even start creating our first Page!
What Damages Did I Suffer?
Because of this unfortunate ordeal, I wasted over 2 weeks to find out why I couldn’t create a blogroll with the pages that I had, which was all I did have! Being new to WA, I simply didn’t know what a post was and why I would need to have a post! In addition, I wasted another 3 weeks to manually rewrite 90% of my pages into posts – and it’s not quite done yet!
Can You Be the Next Victim?
Chances are that you may be the next victim of this disaster. Therefore, in the spirit of preventing other WA newcomers from being blindsided with this sudden disaster, which may easily push them to even contemplate quitting WA altogether (as I nearly did!), they should know and undertake certain vital steps to protect themselves.
It apparently seems that this issue is a current problem that many other members have had the misfortune of experiencing – one that I am sure Kyle and Carson will take note and address more strongly to eradicate any ambiguity between a Page and a Post, from the viewpoint of new members.
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JAY-B
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Hello Garth,
I appreciate the fact that you liked it. It was not meant to be anything special, but only a small clarification on a topic that I had issues with and wanted to share with the Community.
It is hard to be a Newbie, since there is a ton of material that one has to learn against the clock - it is even worse, when one is so eager to learn and rushes forward too quickly. Therefore, the possible compromise of building a solid foundation one's future success.
Thanks again and I wish you the very best in your success with WA.
Regards... Jay
I appreciate the fact that you liked it. It was not meant to be anything special, but only a small clarification on a topic that I had issues with and wanted to share with the Community.
It is hard to be a Newbie, since there is a ton of material that one has to learn against the clock - it is even worse, when one is so eager to learn and rushes forward too quickly. Therefore, the possible compromise of building a solid foundation one's future success.
Thanks again and I wish you the very best in your success with WA.
Regards... Jay
Prana-Elite
Premium
I had no problem deciding to create a page or a post. Most of my documents are posts. I was made aware early that posts were part of a blogroll and pages generally were more permanently used as general headings. I didn't necessarily follow that exact strategy for my documents and I have a couple of pages I wish I had made as posts. However, given the flexibility of WP menus, this is not a problem worth mentioning.
When I first went into WP, I noticed that there were pages and posts and made an effort to find out what the differences were. That seems logical given that pages/posts are right in front of you in the dashboard.
I would suggest that the training relies on people using some determination of their own as to creating pages or posts. Often in the training, Kyle will suggest that you create a page or post and leave it up to you to make you best decision. After all there are so many different ways to create a site and so many different personal reasons to choose a document as a page or post.
If anyone is worried about categorizing pages, I think there is a plugin that allows you to categorize pages so that pages are included in a category search. I read about this but never tried it.
When I first went into WP, I noticed that there were pages and posts and made an effort to find out what the differences were. That seems logical given that pages/posts are right in front of you in the dashboard.
I would suggest that the training relies on people using some determination of their own as to creating pages or posts. Often in the training, Kyle will suggest that you create a page or post and leave it up to you to make you best decision. After all there are so many different ways to create a site and so many different personal reasons to choose a document as a page or post.
If anyone is worried about categorizing pages, I think there is a plugin that allows you to categorize pages so that pages are included in a category search. I read about this but never tried it.
JAY-B
Premium
Hi doug,
Thanks for you comment. I am glad that you didn't face any problems in creating pages & posts. However, many people have, including myself - I had no clarification as to the difference between pages & posts and their specific functions.
For whaterver it is worth, I am hopeful that my tutorial will aid those people who may also have some questions about this topic, like I did. I am happy for all those people, like yourself, who did not encounter any such difficulties.
As for the the issue of self determination that you mentioned in your comment, I would most respectfully like to state this: I consider myself as having a wholesome share of this atribute, and yet I was confused!
At any rate, I sincerely hope that you'll be most successful in you online business with WA, and find the time to extend a helping hand to those in need of small doses of assistance along the way. Thanks again.
With my best regards... Jay
Thanks for you comment. I am glad that you didn't face any problems in creating pages & posts. However, many people have, including myself - I had no clarification as to the difference between pages & posts and their specific functions.
For whaterver it is worth, I am hopeful that my tutorial will aid those people who may also have some questions about this topic, like I did. I am happy for all those people, like yourself, who did not encounter any such difficulties.
As for the the issue of self determination that you mentioned in your comment, I would most respectfully like to state this: I consider myself as having a wholesome share of this atribute, and yet I was confused!
At any rate, I sincerely hope that you'll be most successful in you online business with WA, and find the time to extend a helping hand to those in need of small doses of assistance along the way. Thanks again.
With my best regards... Jay
boomergp08
Premium
I'm going to have to disagree with you on the beginning part of this training Jay. Kyle is quite clear that the WA Review and all other reviews should be Posts. He also explains about the blog roll.
On the video in Phase 1 Lesson 8 of the Boot Camp within the very first minute of the video Kyle says, "We're going to be creating this review as a Post because we're going to start getting our blog roll rolling with content."
Then he goes on to show you that he has a 404 error on his Home Page and says that there really is no error and it's because, "I don't have any content on my Home page and that's a result of not having any Posts."
You can watch the first minute of the video here - https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/training/affiliate-bootcamp-an-introduction-to-creating-reviews
I would suggest you go back and edit the first page of this training so that it doesn't mislead anyone into thinking that Kyle doesn't teach what he actually does teach.
Other than your above error the rest of the training looks good.
On the video in Phase 1 Lesson 8 of the Boot Camp within the very first minute of the video Kyle says, "We're going to be creating this review as a Post because we're going to start getting our blog roll rolling with content."
Then he goes on to show you that he has a 404 error on his Home Page and says that there really is no error and it's because, "I don't have any content on my Home page and that's a result of not having any Posts."
You can watch the first minute of the video here - https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/training/affiliate-bootcamp-an-introduction-to-creating-reviews
I would suggest you go back and edit the first page of this training so that it doesn't mislead anyone into thinking that Kyle doesn't teach what he actually does teach.
Other than your above error the rest of the training looks good.
JAY-B
Premium
Hello Robert,
I am thankful that you brought this to my attention, since you're absolutely correct in that Kyle had touched upon this topic briefly in P-1, L-1-8 of Boot Camp. Also, I did go back and corrected my error in referencing this topic in my entire tutorial.
I would appreciate it if you would be kind enough do me another favor by taking another quick look and verify the correction. It is not, and it has never been my intent to mislead anyone based on an error on my part. If I didn't sincerely beleive in Kyle's dedication & devotion to WA and his heartfelt care for our interest and success, I would not be here now!
I suppose I am a living example of how briefly this topic was touched upon, since I had no recall of it till now. This makes my point for more emphasis on this topic for the sake of clarification and proper application by people like me..
Robert I formally thank you for your great and timely input.
Best regards... Jay
I am thankful that you brought this to my attention, since you're absolutely correct in that Kyle had touched upon this topic briefly in P-1, L-1-8 of Boot Camp. Also, I did go back and corrected my error in referencing this topic in my entire tutorial.
I would appreciate it if you would be kind enough do me another favor by taking another quick look and verify the correction. It is not, and it has never been my intent to mislead anyone based on an error on my part. If I didn't sincerely beleive in Kyle's dedication & devotion to WA and his heartfelt care for our interest and success, I would not be here now!
I suppose I am a living example of how briefly this topic was touched upon, since I had no recall of it till now. This makes my point for more emphasis on this topic for the sake of clarification and proper application by people like me..
Robert I formally thank you for your great and timely input.
Best regards... Jay
boomergp08
Premium
I'm not implying that you would intentionally mislead anyone Jay. What I meant was that your error "might" mislead those who don't know any better. I know it was an honest mistake.
As for when to write a page or post it is mentioned several times throughout the training process. Kyle mentions it in other videos and most times when you are given a task at the end of a lesson. He will instruct you to create either a Post or to create a Page.
As for further knowledge into the difference. Well for those who need it we have training from members like yourself who provided it for us. Plus you can always just do a search for page post in the above question bar. You will see other training as well like the one from Carson.
I will review your training again. If I see any problems I'll reply with it.
As for when to write a page or post it is mentioned several times throughout the training process. Kyle mentions it in other videos and most times when you are given a task at the end of a lesson. He will instruct you to create either a Post or to create a Page.
As for further knowledge into the difference. Well for those who need it we have training from members like yourself who provided it for us. Plus you can always just do a search for page post in the above question bar. You will see other training as well like the one from Carson.
I will review your training again. If I see any problems I'll reply with it.
JAY-B
Premium
Thanks Robert!
I know quite well that you didn't mean to imply that. I just wanted to make my intensions clear. I have already sent Kyle PM on this issue as well.
My entire concern from the begining was that I never had the adequate knowledge to understand the proper usage & defference between pages & posts - therefore, my tutorial, which is really me thinking out loud.
Thanks again for evrything my friend.
Regards... Jay
I know quite well that you didn't mean to imply that. I just wanted to make my intensions clear. I have already sent Kyle PM on this issue as well.
My entire concern from the begining was that I never had the adequate knowledge to understand the proper usage & defference between pages & posts - therefore, my tutorial, which is really me thinking out loud.
Thanks again for evrything my friend.
Regards... Jay
JAY-B
Premium
Hi Garth,
Sorry that you also had to experience this issue. I hope that you have everything squared away by now. It is terrible thing to go through!
Please let me know if there is any help you may need from me.
I thank you for your comment and sharing with me your situation as well. As a matter of fact, Kyle had indeed touched about the topic of Posts briefly in the Boot Camp training, Phase 1, Lesson 8. However, by the time I was going through that particular lesson, I still had no clue as to what a Post was either!
Therfore, I figured that this tutorial will target this topic more clearly and provide specific details on Pages & Posts for the benefit of newcomers to WA.
I want to assure you that Kyle is (like Carson) highly dedicated to the provision of the best possible training to his loyal WA followers. I have communicated with him to see if it is possible to give us a bit more comprehensive training on the topic of Pages & Posts. I trust Kyle's actions and know for a fact that he knows best as to what needs to be done.
I wish you great success and all the best, Garth - Let me know if I can be of help.
Regards... Jay
Sorry that you also had to experience this issue. I hope that you have everything squared away by now. It is terrible thing to go through!
Please let me know if there is any help you may need from me.
I thank you for your comment and sharing with me your situation as well. As a matter of fact, Kyle had indeed touched about the topic of Posts briefly in the Boot Camp training, Phase 1, Lesson 8. However, by the time I was going through that particular lesson, I still had no clue as to what a Post was either!
Therfore, I figured that this tutorial will target this topic more clearly and provide specific details on Pages & Posts for the benefit of newcomers to WA.
I want to assure you that Kyle is (like Carson) highly dedicated to the provision of the best possible training to his loyal WA followers. I have communicated with him to see if it is possible to give us a bit more comprehensive training on the topic of Pages & Posts. I trust Kyle's actions and know for a fact that he knows best as to what needs to be done.
I wish you great success and all the best, Garth - Let me know if I can be of help.
Regards... Jay
harmonic
Premium
I am also just in the process of wandering around the manager and my site learning about posts and pages. I'll definitely be paying a lot of attention in this area as I build a foundation. Knowing is dynamic and not static and it can be hard put it all together at first. Seems I read that new content is tracked for google ranking so it would seem to me posts most readily can be the living daily new content main area. There is so much to learn I have fallen back a bit to re watch some of the training and do find that it is not uncommon to miss something that however small it may seem can make a big difference. Thanks for focusing on the pages posts area.
