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Hi I’m Karen Newton an Online Entrepreneur, Strategic Investor, Author and Speaker. I’ve always worked around money. First with inland Revenue in UK and then Banking

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I have a website that currently consistently ranks high on Google - usually around 3 - 5 on search engines.

The website was built for me a few years ago using Elementor.

If you feel stuck in the how to... you can always ask site support...

As for a new website vs an old one... make sure to redirect the old site to the new one, so you do not loose traffic

Ps
Make sure to make backups... in case things go banana

Thank you -

If you website ranks well... why change?

Never change a winning horse...
👋

Better set up something new with the new hubs environment

I was having difficulty editing outdated products and services and creating new ones especially adding pages and adjusting menus. I wanted something that is easier for me to amend

Yuk indeed...

The best solution depends on your specific needs and goals. However, based on the context given, a reasonable approach would be:

1. Evaluate the Necessity of Elementor: If the advanced design features provided by Elementor Pro are not crucial for the website's functionality or user experience, you might consider removing the plugin. This is particularly relevant if maintaining the site with Elementor is challenging or if the design elements are not essential for the site's main purpose.

2. Backup the Website: Before making any changes, ensure you have a complete backup of your website. This includes all files and the database. Use a backup plugin or ask your hosting provider for assistance in creating this backup. Having a backup ensures you can restore the website to its current state if needed.

3. Assess Content and Design Impact: Understand that removing Elementor will affect the site's design but not the core content created within WordPress. If the design elements are important for user engagement or convey critical information, consider how you can replicate or redesign these elements using WordPress's native features or another plugin.

4. Explore WordPress Native Solutions: Look into WordPress's own block editor (Gutenberg) and other plugins that might offer the design flexibility you need without the complexities of Elementor. This might also improve your website's performance if you find a lighter-weight solution.

5. Consult with Experts: If unsure, seek advice from web development experts or the WordPress and Elementor communities. They can offer insights into the pros and cons of removing Elementor based on your website's specific needs.

6. Implement Gradually: If you decide to remove Elementor, do so gradually. Test the website's functionality and design on a staging environment first. This approach allows you to make adjustments and solve any issues without affecting the live site.

7. Monitor Website Performance and Rankings:After making changes, closely monitor your website's performance and search engine rankings. Ensure that the removal of Elementor and any design changes do not negatively impact your site's user experience or visibility.

This approach balances the need to simplify website management with the importance of maintaining content integrity, design quality, and search engine rankings.

Ps
Ask site support to make a staging website for you, so you can experiment without dammage

Based on what you have said above and that the important parts are done:

1. same(ish) content
2. same permalink structure (URLs)

You'll be fine.

Once done, update your sitemap in Google search console. Basically resubmit it and everything should be fine.

Regards,
Jay

Thank you Jay. About to bite the bullet and do it - lol

Hi Karen,

I'm really, really confused by the process you've gone through.

So, let me just put my thought process down, and then you can tell/ask me what you want to do next.

Elementor is simply a drag-and-drop page builder plugin that is used on WordPress, which is a content management system (CMS).

In other words, you can't have Elementor without having a WordPress website (although admittedly I've never used it, so I'm unaware if they can be used on other CMS's).

But, your original website I'm guessing is built on WordPress.

Elementor will usually be installed as a plugin.

So, if you don't wish to use Elementor you simply disable the plugin and then you have access to all the "normal" WordPress features.

When you disable Elementor you will lose any advanced designs that you made with Elementor Pro,

At a guess, you would still use the WordPress Content Editor to actually write and add your content (again, I've read a lot about Elemntor over the years, but never used it, so I'm just taking an educated guess here).

So, if you remove the Elementor plugin you will lose any advanced DESIGN elements that were created with it, but surely the actual written content, which I'm guessing was written on the WordPress content editor, should remain?

What I'm basically saying is if you simply remove a PLUGIN, it will remove the features that were created with THAT plugin, but everything else on your website should remain.

This being the case your website would still remain intact as is, and therefore retain its rankings (it's the same website it just looks different).

Would removing certain design features affect your rankings?

Hmmm, perhaps, but you're mainly ranking on the helpfulness of your CONTENT (produced in WordPress), and the overall authority of your website.

So, did you really need to create a completely new website?

I would suggest that before removing/deleting Elementor you take a backup of your site (if hosted externally, see if your host has backups, and install a backup plugin and get your own backup, or if hosted here ask SiteSupport for a backup before you do anything).

That's my thinking anyway Karen.

Hopefully, there is someone who actually uses Elementor who can confirm or deny what I'm saying.

Plus, there is an Elemnetor-specific community:

https://elementor.com/community/

But, in my mind, there's no need to have done all the hard work you have done, you just simply needed to remove a plugin (as far as I'm concerned your WRITTEN content would remain).

Partha

Hi Partha,

Thanks for replying and your comments.

Removing the plugin was my first thought and I thought it would be that simple, remove it.

However, I did some research and discovered that Elementor uses coding in the background. If you remove the plugin you are usually just left with gibberish on the website.





Hmmm.. I always assumed that if you removed Elementor all your content still remains, but the posts and pages you made with Elementor you wouldn't be able to edit, but they're still viewable on the front end.

Sorry, not much help really am I, LOL!

Hopefully, an Elementor user will turn up and help and you can always reach out to their community.

I'd also say Reddit would be a good source, there's bound to be a few threads where people have asked similar questions.

Sorry again!! :(

Hi Karen

I’m not an Elementor page builder guy, but I would have done it your way because:

1 - I’ve also heard that Elementor leaves a lot of unnecessary code on your site when you uninstall it.

2 - You can make any necessary formatting adjustments without Elementor to all your posts at your leisure. Then when you’re ready to transfer the site it’s “one and done.”

Definitely make a complete copy of your original site before you do the transfer, just in case something unanticipated happens!

Just my opinion. 😎

Frank 🎸

Thanks for that Frank.

You’re welcome, Karen. 😎

Frank 🎸

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How will google rankings be affected?

How will google rankings be affected?

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I have a website that currently consistently ranks high on Google - usually around 3 - 5 on search engines.

The website was built for me a few years ago using Elementor.

If you feel stuck in the how to... you can always ask site support...

As for a new website vs an old one... make sure to redirect the old site to the new one, so you do not loose traffic

Ps
Make sure to make backups... in case things go banana

Thank you -

If you website ranks well... why change?

Never change a winning horse...
👋

Better set up something new with the new hubs environment

I was having difficulty editing outdated products and services and creating new ones especially adding pages and adjusting menus. I wanted something that is easier for me to amend

Yuk indeed...

The best solution depends on your specific needs and goals. However, based on the context given, a reasonable approach would be:

1. Evaluate the Necessity of Elementor: If the advanced design features provided by Elementor Pro are not crucial for the website's functionality or user experience, you might consider removing the plugin. This is particularly relevant if maintaining the site with Elementor is challenging or if the design elements are not essential for the site's main purpose.

2. Backup the Website: Before making any changes, ensure you have a complete backup of your website. This includes all files and the database. Use a backup plugin or ask your hosting provider for assistance in creating this backup. Having a backup ensures you can restore the website to its current state if needed.

3. Assess Content and Design Impact: Understand that removing Elementor will affect the site's design but not the core content created within WordPress. If the design elements are important for user engagement or convey critical information, consider how you can replicate or redesign these elements using WordPress's native features or another plugin.

4. Explore WordPress Native Solutions: Look into WordPress's own block editor (Gutenberg) and other plugins that might offer the design flexibility you need without the complexities of Elementor. This might also improve your website's performance if you find a lighter-weight solution.

5. Consult with Experts: If unsure, seek advice from web development experts or the WordPress and Elementor communities. They can offer insights into the pros and cons of removing Elementor based on your website's specific needs.

6. Implement Gradually: If you decide to remove Elementor, do so gradually. Test the website's functionality and design on a staging environment first. This approach allows you to make adjustments and solve any issues without affecting the live site.

7. Monitor Website Performance and Rankings:After making changes, closely monitor your website's performance and search engine rankings. Ensure that the removal of Elementor and any design changes do not negatively impact your site's user experience or visibility.

This approach balances the need to simplify website management with the importance of maintaining content integrity, design quality, and search engine rankings.

Ps
Ask site support to make a staging website for you, so you can experiment without dammage

Based on what you have said above and that the important parts are done:

1. same(ish) content
2. same permalink structure (URLs)

You'll be fine.

Once done, update your sitemap in Google search console. Basically resubmit it and everything should be fine.

Regards,
Jay

Thank you Jay. About to bite the bullet and do it - lol

Hi Karen,

I'm really, really confused by the process you've gone through.

So, let me just put my thought process down, and then you can tell/ask me what you want to do next.

Elementor is simply a drag-and-drop page builder plugin that is used on WordPress, which is a content management system (CMS).

In other words, you can't have Elementor without having a WordPress website (although admittedly I've never used it, so I'm unaware if they can be used on other CMS's).

But, your original website I'm guessing is built on WordPress.

Elementor will usually be installed as a plugin.

So, if you don't wish to use Elementor you simply disable the plugin and then you have access to all the "normal" WordPress features.

When you disable Elementor you will lose any advanced designs that you made with Elementor Pro,

At a guess, you would still use the WordPress Content Editor to actually write and add your content (again, I've read a lot about Elemntor over the years, but never used it, so I'm just taking an educated guess here).

So, if you remove the Elementor plugin you will lose any advanced DESIGN elements that were created with it, but surely the actual written content, which I'm guessing was written on the WordPress content editor, should remain?

What I'm basically saying is if you simply remove a PLUGIN, it will remove the features that were created with THAT plugin, but everything else on your website should remain.

This being the case your website would still remain intact as is, and therefore retain its rankings (it's the same website it just looks different).

Would removing certain design features affect your rankings?

Hmmm, perhaps, but you're mainly ranking on the helpfulness of your CONTENT (produced in WordPress), and the overall authority of your website.

So, did you really need to create a completely new website?

I would suggest that before removing/deleting Elementor you take a backup of your site (if hosted externally, see if your host has backups, and install a backup plugin and get your own backup, or if hosted here ask SiteSupport for a backup before you do anything).

That's my thinking anyway Karen.

Hopefully, there is someone who actually uses Elementor who can confirm or deny what I'm saying.

Plus, there is an Elemnetor-specific community:

https://elementor.com/community/

But, in my mind, there's no need to have done all the hard work you have done, you just simply needed to remove a plugin (as far as I'm concerned your WRITTEN content would remain).

Partha

Hi Partha,

Thanks for replying and your comments.

Removing the plugin was my first thought and I thought it would be that simple, remove it.

However, I did some research and discovered that Elementor uses coding in the background. If you remove the plugin you are usually just left with gibberish on the website.





Hmmm.. I always assumed that if you removed Elementor all your content still remains, but the posts and pages you made with Elementor you wouldn't be able to edit, but they're still viewable on the front end.

Sorry, not much help really am I, LOL!

Hopefully, an Elementor user will turn up and help and you can always reach out to their community.

I'd also say Reddit would be a good source, there's bound to be a few threads where people have asked similar questions.

Sorry again!! :(

Hi Karen

I’m not an Elementor page builder guy, but I would have done it your way because:

1 - I’ve also heard that Elementor leaves a lot of unnecessary code on your site when you uninstall it.

2 - You can make any necessary formatting adjustments without Elementor to all your posts at your leisure. Then when you’re ready to transfer the site it’s “one and done.”

Definitely make a complete copy of your original site before you do the transfer, just in case something unanticipated happens!

Just my opinion. 😎

Frank 🎸

Thanks for that Frank.

You’re welcome, Karen. 😎

Frank 🎸

See more comments

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