Expectations of Online Revenue. Why Most People Fail.

Last Update: July 26, 2018



People work for years, they earn an hourly wage, they maybe get a raise or small promotion after 5-10 years.

That is an incredible amount of time to wait for a raise. I mean, you work an average of 35-40 hours per week, for 52 weeks per year. That is 2,000+ hours.

Extrapolate that over 10 years, and you have spent 20,000 hours to get a meaningless increase in wages, often times following the rate of inflation (so you are not actually LOSING money as your career goes on.

The Online World, a Skewed Reality

People start building a business and have a different set of expectations. There is the tendency to expect things much quicker online than offline. We can connect with each other instantly, we can send messages to others with the click of a button, access any information we could ever imagine with a simple search. The expectation is instant.

However, that “mindset” bleeds into the Internet business world. Partly because of this instant expectation and a load of misleading information and offers out there claiming “instant riches”.

Not the reality. An amazingly successful business won’t happen in a few months. Sometimes even a year. Sometimes two.

Some Perspective of Time vs. Rewards Payoff

I know I can make you feel much more comfortable about your journey moving forward within the online world, but you have to have a realistic and appropriate outlook.

Let’s say you blog 2 times per week on your website, say average time to create a research your content, write your content and publish is 1.5 hours. That is on the high side.

That is 3 hours per week you have invested into the most critical aspect of your business. Of course there are going to be other things that you work on associated with your business (educating yourself, keyword research, social marketing, etc), but generally speaking that is the core tasks that you are doing.

If you invest 3 hours per week into your business, you can get a lot of it. The problem is the expectations of this far exceed that of those that invest 40 hours into a day job per week.

3 hours vs. 40 hours!

The reality is that 3 hours per week can lead to a sustainable and full time income with time, but after 3 months, that is really only 36 total hours you have invested in your build out of your business. Why would your expectations be a full time income at that point, or even income as your foundation is being built?

I know partly why.

There are companies claiming instant success, showing pictures of fancy cars and big commissions and then stating how quickly these can be achieved. All things that are drawing you to the idea of instant success.

Putting 36 hours into your business is just getting the foundation in place. That is why after 3-4 months folks are not generating a huge income, they have invested less than a full working week into their business.

Imagine putting 20 hours per week into your business?

Imagine if you ramped up the actual production side of your business. I have no doubts that you create a minimum of 7 posts on your website (one per day) as well as manage all engagement, social activities and build out the comment side of things on your each and every one of these posts.

After just one year, investing this amount of time you would be looking at a website with 350+ posts on it, a website that is getting a considerable amount of traffic, and one that likely will be in not just a state of being a full time income, but will be in a position to be scaled far beyond this.

Now imagine putting 40 hours per week in.

You could amplify the production of your content, or you could focus on building out more thorough and detailed articles.

Perhaps you do 7 posts per week, but they are very detailed and “thorough” pillar style posts.

Perhaps you can get comments and engagement rolling on all of them while managing.

Perhaps you can invest time into integration of charts and proper imagery into all of your pages and posts.

Within a year’s time, you could have an authority website in place, one that has a good deal of brand recognition and one where relationships are naturally being made in the industry. You have CLOUT in an industry after just one year. Not to mention a significant foundation to continue to grow your business from and one that is likely bringing in close to a full time income stream.

Then You Start Earning, You Start Scaling…

And as you start generating income, you can start getting help. You can get help with your content authoring, what if you could put in 10 minutes of time spec’ing out an article and have someone spend their time (1.5 hours) writing an article for you by paying them.

Imagine how quickly you could scale if you could literally get 7 articles written per week in 70 minutes of your time! Imagine if you could start sourcing out all of your comments and engagement through purchasing credits here at Wealthy Affiliate and simply paying for them (100 comments for $100)

Imagine if you could use income that is coming in to drive design on your website, perhaps a more advanced Wordpress theme, some infographics, developing a logo or custom graphics.

Imagine, imagine, imagine….

That is all you will be doing if you give yourself a month and 15-20 hours to build a business. It will never happen. That is something that I can be sure of and that I can be blunt to you about.

Be realistic about the process of building an online business, and the realism of a business will take place before your eyes.

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llylydan Premium
Really a real life situation to learn from to take better business decisions. Thank you Kyle.
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GinaU1 Premium
Great post, Kyle. I am feeling a bit guilty about binge watching Ozark last night when I could have been writing content.

I am the worst offender of thinking I have accomplished so much just because I dedicate a couple hours per day, but when I add it up that's only 14 hours per week, and that's if I am consistent!

Thank you for the reality check:)
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Chontal Premium
Love this Kyle! Staying focus and not expecting anything to happen without the work that needs to go on behind the scenes for success! In life what we put in we get back. Mostly to win a race training is involved why I'm going to do the training and follow instructions here.
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StuartNZ Premium
That is so true about the time invested. I had never considered that after three months you may feel like you have done more but may have only put 35 actual hours into your site.
I will take your advice onboard and continue tracking my time. I will aim to grow my time available and see where that takes me. Thanks for your advice.
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Kyle Premium
Yeah, people expect a lot because they think of business differently than anything else they do in life. We go to school for 4 years to get an OK job, we spend years perfecting a hobby or a sport...yet we expect success in a few months of business.

Yes, it can happen quickly, but it is not overnight. Those that are realistic about the process and the hard work it takes are those that you see running full time and very successful businesses. :)
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StuartNZ Premium
Just one quick question while we are talking
Do you think that "how to start a digital marketing business from home" is a good (or not a good) nitch?
I could try "how to start a small business" but I do prefer the marketing option as I have a business, design and marketing background.
Or do you think I should try something unrelated to the "build a business at home" nitch
Your thoughts would be appreciated
Stuart
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MaryFRM Premium
I'm at the beginning of my journey and I spend much more than 1.5 hours per post. Maybe 10+hours. Research, writing, editing, images, SEO, asking for comments..
I do produce quality content, with 1500-3000 words.
Hope it'll be easier later on.
What's sad is that Google seems still not paying real attention to my posts. Relevant keywords are not showing on Google Analytics, but some tags and image titles do. I don't get it..
At least the list of these keywords is slowly growing..
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James1-4 Premium
Hi Mary,

Are your keywords those that Jaaxy shows a number of searches for? Perhaps low search volume for those keywords is working against you? Just asking.

Wishing you success,

James
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Winex Premium
Hey Peoples I'm sure as heck willing to put in a 30-40 hour week quality time, if that's what it takes to get me on the WA Highway.

This has given me even more passion to work in as an Affiliate of WA.

Awesome Stuff for me, waking me up and driving me to keep up the good works!

I'm as excited as ever! (smiles)
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Collin7 Premium
very honest and heart felt thank you so much i was not one who thought Friday im rich but this is a long term goal for me and this just reaffirmed it for me nothing is free in this life as we all know ive worked hard my whole life and that is not gonna change here im even more determined now thanks for the enlightenment great post
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nurselizstar Premium
I knew when I climbed onboard with WA that there was "something" different about this company. I knew that I could sit on FREE and be able to learn to earn, and I knew, in time, I could possibly make a profit from all that I had learned. I also knew that I had to be realistic and not expect to get rich overnight and I needed someone to smack me with reality or possibly smack me off my white charger as my fantasies ride me off into the sunset. This is what this article did for me! This truthful and honest showing of what I NEEDED to do rather than sit back and let others do it for me. I am not so naive to believe there is anything called a rich quick scheme. I also know that nobody ever got rich without putting some sweat equity into it. Yes, this is why I came here. Thank you Mr. Kyle for your honesty, wisdom, experience, and empathy for us "newbies" to know the dream is there, just need to go for it with gusto, restraint, education, and maintain the reins on that mythical white charger just waiting outside!!
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mikepaul01 Premium
I have been a victim of the "quick-fix" mindset all too many times on my journeys online. I've tried many times to build a number of businesses online and failed each and every time because I was UNREALISTIC.

It doesn't happen overnight. Money doesn't magically appear in your bank account. You have to do the work.

And up until this point, I simply haven't done the work. I've gotten started well a few times but very quickly fallen off and gotten lost.

I've made a lot of changes in my personal life in the past few weeks and am working to change my mindset and my health, which is why I'm diving headlong back into the affiliate marketing world and I'm committing to doing things differently this time.

Thanks for this great post and I hope that everyone that reads it takes it to heart and commits to putting in the work to make their dreams come true!
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Hackerist Premium
Another great post from Kyle! Serious newbies probably should invest 80h/week (including training) but could someone invest 4h/week only? per “four hour workweek” from Tim Ferriss. Yes, it’s possible...for experts. It depends on several factors. If we are newbies, at the beginning, we can’t expect to build a profitable online business working 4h/week only. This can be performed once we have spent, for instance, 80h, 40h, 20h, 8h, and finally 4h per week provided that we’ve have been progressively outsourcing most of the tasks and income is mostly passive (for instance affiliate marketing). When we become effective bloggers, we’ll be able to become real entrepreneurs who manage our businesses using third party resources. This way, we’ll be able to invest just 48 min per day (basically writing posts, keeping in touch with our audiences and creating new strategies) or 4h/week (5 days) and we’ll be able to enjoy our freedom and the most important, help our audience.
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Kyle Premium
Well that is the problem, we have seen a proliferation of people thinking that a 4 hour work week is a reality. They took Timothy Ferris out of context, he was you using a bit of hyperbole to indicate efficiency, he probably works 120 hours per week himself on his respective businesses.

Hard work, pays off. All of your success will be the byproduct of your efforts. Working within the online world allows you to speed up the path to success drastically and do something that you LOVE to do in the process, but there is always going to be the hard work, dedication, and persistence elements that will drive your productivity.
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Hackerist Premium
Agree. Thanks Kyle for your comments!
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silverwings Premium
I'm just so thankful that I have found this community! I feel more on track than ever! I'm willing to put in the time and effort to learn from the best! I've been floundering around for years trying to make sense of all of it! I'm finally feeling like I'm going somewhere now! Thank you thank you for your help!
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Kyle Premium
So wonderful to hear Susan and I hope you had an amazing week. It can be easy to flounder if you are not in the right environment, or if you have been given just part of the "picture" (and the tools required to achieve success).

You have found a home here at WA and I really look forward to working with you!
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JocelynMarc1 Premium
It's true the reality to live is the most essential part of the business and it's up to you how to manage your time and effort to do so abd make it happen. Life is not easy and to juggle one job to another or if you are a working Mom and attending the family as well. In WA you have the freedom to manage your time whenever you are available but if your desire to make your goal in a better position then think million times and you will get there and that is my goal.
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GTilton1 Premium
That makes perfect sense to me. I have done a lot of reading about the lives of “very successful entrepreneurs”. One thing they all have in common is that they do not procrastinate and they spend a lot of time implementing what they have learned.
Initially, you must “put in the time” necessary to learn, implement, test and prove what works and what does not. Also, don’t reinvent the wheel. Learn from those who have already done it and do the same. If ya want success do what successful people do.
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Dehghanian Premium
This is so true. There are so many deceptive sites that try to sell a false reality. I am only able to do part time on my site, and I have already seen a huge difference in putting more time and hours into my work. I have removed my junk articles and started replacing them one by one with higher content quality and trying to bring more value to my readers. It is critical to invest in your audience as much as they invest in you! Great article and read!
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AndreMulder Premium
Thanks Kyle, It is refreshing to see a professional like yourself painting a realist image of the reality of building an on-line business. I would much rather have the surety of knowing that one day I will have a hugely successful on-line business than being hyped up by the false belief it will happen within 3 months, ending up being disappointed and thinking I am a failure and abandoning my dream. Your thinking makes my dream a reality. Thank you.
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harryoh Premium
Very wise observation. Thanks.
Again, simple Math. and sometimes we have a false sense "hopeless optimist" attitude which everybody falls into this trap ... oh well ... Trial and error. We learn from our mistakes. What is important is to rise up again and try and try again until we succeed. Good luck !
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Smichael8 Premium
Great perspective. Being new here is a bit of a firehose and I can see how it could be easy to get overwhelmed and of course, because we all want instant gratification sticking it out for the long haul often goes by the wayside. I am going to slow down and take it step by step in a methodical way following the steps as they are laid out. Thanks and Cheers!
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JarrettB20 Premium
I knew that it would take months and months of effort. But I honestly didn't expect this to take a year! That sounds like a long time but I'm here for the ride. This is not a get rich quick scheme so we will not treat it as such. And most businesses aren't even profitable until like 5 years anyways so if you really think about it you're cutting the learning curve into a really tiny chunk by giving us about a years worth of time.
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SWhitley Premium
Thanks, Kyle. Perhaps this should be required reading before anyone is allowed to sign up to any online business program, including those mentioning the great car.

One of the points that led me to WA was El-Jefe Kyle driving the point home that I would get out what I put in. That and you asked about MY goals and did not promise me a new Mercedes if I met your goals.

Thanks,
Sanders
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Surfdude123 Premium
I now know it works and have begun adding reviews after spending the first year writing articles in my niche. With reviews you can promote good ones by joining them and inserting affiliate links. I have also made my first WA commission which means I can make more. I want to prove to myself I can do this.
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Kyle Premium
Awesome David, it sounds like you are really moving in the right direction here. You CAN do this, the time and effort you put forth now will always pay off later!
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Olina91 Premium
Thank you for this post! It is very inspirational to me. I believe that having realistic expectation and access to the right information are the key for success! Thank you for sharing your path with us, as well as critical aspects of on-line business! i am learning a lot here.
Olina
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Kyle Premium
Being realistic about the process will immediately ensure that you have the opportunity to be as successful as you want. Far too many people WANT to start a business, but are not willing to wait more than a New York minute to achieve results.

Nobody ever created anything of substance overnight or anything that is worth being proud of. Your efforts will pay off, just have to operate within the reality of the business world...which happens to be much more efficient and quicker than the offline world.
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Janxio Premium
Great for motivation! But my problem is NOT wanting overnight success... what is holding me back is the constant challenge I encounter in putting my needs first... and I am working on that! My challenge is finding the right time and place to get through with this :-(

How do I become selfish enough to forget about the needs of people around me, and just concentrate on myself???
It seems that I am a magnet for people needing my attention and help. Don't get me wrong... I don't regret this because that is THE ONE MOTIVATOR that inspired me to try a blog to help others, while finding a solution to my unemployed situation.

But it is still very hard to have the time, peace, and quiet that I need to get through with this... is anyone out there facing the same situation?
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Barryw1 Premium
NO!
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Janxio Premium
hahaha! Easier said than done! How am I going to feel after refusing to help a loved one when they needed me???
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Barryw1 Premium
Delay their gratification.

Put some time into this and then say, remember when I could not help you? Well I'd like to make it up to you.

Here's the keys to a new Ferrari. It's outside drive carefully. I bet you would get some time then.
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Janxio Premium
Thanks for your suggestion! In an ideal world that would work...not when people come to me last minute needing my immediate help. Maybe I should just be OUTRIGHT SELFISH...:-(
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DaveSw Premium
I think you have to set up a zone for your own efforts - lay out a clear demarcation line between what you are doing for others versus what you are doing for yourself...

You are cheating yourself otherwise, and to rationalize this and to relieve that quandary that you feel, take a longer term view of what happens when you do this...

By developing your own business and building your future, you are going to be able to help more people around you than now. Long term you are also working for their future...

Setting a hard and fast time and place on a regular basis so you can pursue your aspirations with the online marketing world gets easier once you let those around you know what the deal is...

At first, they may feel that you are somehow ignoring their immediate needs, but as they get used to the routine of you having that time, space, and peace, and start seeing the results, they will accept...

They may even try to emulate what you do and set such a thing up for themselves...Better yet, establish a support group and so this journey together, meeting and sharing experiences, going and growing together...

Best of luck!

Dave : )
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NielSmit Premium
You say you want to help others and you are a magnet for people needing attention and help. Well if you say it, you will attract it.

If you want to help others, the first rule I had to learn, you have to help yourself first before you can help anyone else.

How do you become selfish and I am now talking from own experience after someone brought to my attention the announcement before flights on commercial airlines.

If you are on a plain, they tell you in case of an emergency, to secure your oxygen mask first before trying to help other passengers, even children.

Have you ever thought WHY? If you can't breath, how do you help someone else, so both of you are going to die! You can only help from a position of strength. So look after yourself first, otherwise, those people will have to suffer without you.

People was attracted to me because my "help" entitled doing the work for them. This changed the day I started teaching them how to help themselves!

Suddenly only the ones that are prepared to learn and change, was asking for my help.

Hope this helps.
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NielSmit Premium
How are they going to survive if you are not there anymore?
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Janxio Premium
Hello Dave... thanks for your advice and excuse my tardiness in responding. I was MIA for a while, now trying to get back on track. You shared some really good thoughts; thanks again!
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Janxio Premium
Hi Niel, I was MIA for some time and now trying to get back on track. Thanks for sharing some good points with me. Interesting that you mention the airline analogy because many years ago I used it to refer to the same situation (I used it to make reference to first putting the lifeguard vest on yourself to better help an accompanying child). You reminded me of something I had forgotten. Thanks again!
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NielSmit Premium
It is an honor to be of service.

Remember this did not happen by accident.

A DEVINE appointment!
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Duanerr Premium
Tks, Kyle....as always "good stuff"....this gives one a different and better perspective....but this article also adds to my list of questions which are "novice" thoughts, not about quitting but about expanding my website with more blogs in terms of "how many" blogs or posts/pages are too many for one website? and will be answered as time in training proceeds I do believe.

I'm here for the long-haul personally I can't wait until my confidence level is equal to and, indeed, flies past my knowledge level. But, as the old saying goes "knowledge is power".

I'm learning fast though (I think) but every contributor here has such good and important things to learn that it is "almost" a set back, if you know what I mean. One has to kind of bump into the same blog (like this one) a few times reading (or vid) over again and then it comes to your recall.

Also, I find now that I have a few contributors like yourself etc. that have become my "go to" friends for veteran thoughts and ideas for better procedure. Have a good one, Duane.
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Kyle Premium
Knowledge is the start of "power", the implement of the knowledge is where the power truly materializes. It sounds like you are really committed to building your business and I can tell you that this sort of commitment sustained is going to lead to a very long term and successful business online.
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Chayuky Premium
They say thruth hurts. I say: truth motivates.
So now that i read this i can be more certain and grounded about my expectations and can calculate better how much needs to be put in and how much results i can expect in return. Amazing! Thank you for this article
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Kyle Premium
Truth does motivate, it should be motivating to realize that if you spend "time" on your business, you are going to see results in your business.

Bright days are ahead!
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MMMikey Premium
Kyle, this is a great article. I'll be honest, the more time I spend on wealthy affiliate, I do get a sense that you might actually be a real person, or who you say you are. I guess I could confirm that by participating in one of your webinars. I'm wondering if you actually pay for comments on wealthy affiliate or if you just do that on your other sites, no judgement either way, some of the people's comments do seem a little paid for though.
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EdEastman Premium
Thanks Richard for laying out a reality check.

I am entering the affiliate business for the second time after being away from it for several years.

My perspective is different this time.
My resolve is greater.
My focus is much sharper.
My discipline is greater.
My work hours have been much greater per day ( haven't missed a day yet for 2 wks)
My goals are in place.

And most importantly ..... PATIENCE will rule.
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Kyle Premium
Awesome, sounds like you are truly going to have a brilliant year ahead of you!
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RogerHumbke Premium
This article puts everything in perspective and I now feel better about putting in 60hrs a week for the past 10 months and not making a penny. I have certainly learned a lot of new skills and have a active website with followers.

I have scaled back on my income expectations; signed on for another year; doing the Courses and Bootcamp again (making sure to complete all TASKS this time); and monetizing my site.

Will also add another Website "Wealthy Affiliate for Seniors".
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Sdaviscs1250 Premium
I recall when I graduated with my first Masters Degree. Peers in my class couldn't grasp working in the field for little monies, expected because they graduated, they should be paid $50,000. No experience, client care time, just wanted the big monies.

Some went on to sell cars. Wonder how long they lasted.
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Roper Premium
When we fill out the areas in the training relative to goals,everyone for the most part says they would like to make x amount of $.. Or with regards to non financial goals (myself included) "wanna learn the process"... That's fine, nothing wrong with that... But bottom line, we all just here to try to make $s.. Long term or Short term... That's all it really comes down to.As a newbie myself, and having previously tried many ways in the past to make money online .... Mostly unsuccessfully ...by going through this WA training , and looking at all the comments and discussions...I think now that I'm finally beginning to understand that it is a journey... Not a 100 meter dash.... And success will come in staying the course of the journey.. No matter how long it takes.
In addition,I'm not that tech savvy,so my learning curve is a little more challenging.. So , my WA friends...Onward I go.... Im totally loving it though! The education! Here endeth,
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Tasna Premium
That's a great attitude. It's a journey...
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Ghost59 Premium
Cool, I like your thought process!
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Surfdude123 Premium
I recently did some changes to my site which is now 10 months old. For the first 8 months not much happened. I keep writing, learning and refining my blogs. Its now at 183 blogs with around 4500 page views a month. Its also picking up speed in traffic. I think in one more year my site will be a leader for blogging tips for newbies. Soon I'll ebe adding ore products. 2016 was the year to build the site up 2017 the year I start seeing the fruits of my labor and begin to scale.
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Magieken Premium
As an employee I spent my whole working life playing catch up. My expenses would rise more quickly than my income so you are always lagging behind financially. By following the training at WA and setting up my own online business I am saving the expense of traveling to work, buying the right clothes to wear, lunches etc etc. It really does suck the joy out of your life and in the end you get a cake and gold watch for years of dedication.
The success that comes with WA is not guaranteed but with commitment and work it does come and in the end it is all worth while.
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Tasna Premium
You've got the right attitude. Wishing you all the best.
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codevonish Premium
When i read some of the first comments of new members, i am conscious of their expectations and often wonder if they will be willing to face reality.WA is a great place to learn but one must have patience and longevity in order to build a business. I would not be surprise if many of the members are hurting financially and will be grateful for an opportunity to eek out a small income while they watch their business grow.This is a challenge that needs to be addressed to stimulate longevity. Kyle i sent you a PM and awaiting your response.Thanks for creating such an incredible platform along with Carson.
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Barryw1 Premium
I wrote a post comparing online marketing, how much it cost and the time it takes to make money in different professions.

It takes years to become a licensed electrician or plumber. Years and thousands to become a nurse. HVAC is the same. It takes time and training.

To master any new skill set that will provide a good living takes time and effort to achieve. WA is not really the place for people that need money fast but instead for people with an eye towards the future.

For those that need an income fast get one and keep working on this until you have enough coming in to go full time.

Good luck to all.

Barry
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Surfdude123 Premium
I can appreciate this post. In 1998 I entered electrical school. After four grueling years 8000 hours of field work and 1000 hours of apprenticeship schooling I became a journeyman electrician. Then two years after my graduation work slowed and it was tough getting any work at all. Nothing is guaranteed in life so be thankful for what you have now.
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ttabor Premium
Words of wisdom, totally agree with you Courtney. Unfortunately especially younger generation we are a product resulting from the fast pace culture perception. Fast food, viral technologies, YouTube, apps, gaming etc leading sometimes to almost overnight fame and often substantial financial gains. Financial success is promoted to often in very wrong way and to often is expected more or less instantly and almost effortlessly. But yet for person which survives on less then $2 a day great success will be to make $10 or even $5 a day.
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Barryw1 Premium
More grueling than I thought. Damn.
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Surfdude123 Premium
Pretty sure most come in with guns blazing, chat it up alot in the forums but fizzle out afterr a few months. You really have to go through the lessons but actually write content, learn from your mistakes, get frustrated but keep pushing. You need to give it at least a years time....
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Surfdude123 Premium
Good point. I'm sure a lot of folks join due to from nancial hardship. Unfortunately, with a mindset of financial desperation you won't have the patience to see anything through. Its a double edge sword. The more desperate you become, the greater the resistance.
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KeithDyer Premium
Kyle, this post is right on target. So many people go online and sign up for this and sign up for that, thinking that money can be earned quick and easy. Perhaps it can in some instances (It's never happened for me though):), but building a lasting business takes time and effort. I like that you point the focus to content. I am learning, thanks to WA, that while there are many ways to spend my time promoting my business, content must be at the top of the list. Being realistic about income and success is vital to one's ability to persevere and keep moving forward even when it doesn't look like you're making progress.
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anicdao Premium
Awesome post! I have a few questions. Say, I wanted to make between 3k and 5k from my sites by September 2017, how many hours should I put into the websites? And what kind of work do I specifically need to do? Posts, promotions, etc. Is there a timeline/guide I can follow?

It has been said that 80% of the results come from 20% of the work so which activities do I need to be doing to actually make a substantial income from affiliate marketing?

Thanks all!
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rogerbrad69 Premium
Thanks for the info Kyle. I just wish you would check on me or answer my notes to you like you did the 1st week I was here. I know you were trying to recruit me to Premium so I did it on the 2nd when I got paid, like I told you I would. I have a few question for you. Thanks for your time.
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Kyle Premium
Sure, I will get back to you. If you dropped me a PM, I will most definitely get back to you. ;)
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JJAtkinson Premium
I love this. Realistic and puts it into perspective. I've only recently joined the ranks of premium, but all of this training and posts are always right what I need, when I need it, either when I'm stuck, or as confirmation of something I've already done (or a correction of something I've done instead). Appreciate you Kyle, and the time you've put into the system and your members!
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Kyle Premium
Yeah, if you can appreciate the reality of success you will be much more likely to succeed Jason. You have a bright future ahead of you!
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pparadise Premium
Yes, you have the answer.
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rosiserem Premium
Great article and powerful insights. I would love to put that time into my blog but my main challenge is availing that kind of time, since I still need to have income as I wait for my blog to make some money. What I do for money also takes a lot of time and effort.
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Hi,

Nice post! But does it really comes down to working hrs put into your online business? I am new member here and i read your blog, where in the comments i dont find people successing following your methods. They are all in "building" status, and those who really are earning something have been doing this for years.

What if, based on your post, ill put 70-80 or more hrs in to this per week from the very beginning? How realistic would it be to be making realistic income after 1-2 months (considering that i have put other peoples 1-2 years of commitment in to this with that time)?

Do you have statistic of how many WA starters will succeed and within what timeframe? You have said 90% and above will fail starting online business overall but WA has provided every method and solution, whats the fail % here?

Sorry if my questions are a bit harsh but what i and everyone else here wishes, is thruth on the table.

Thanks in advance,
Richard
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Toshmack Premium
I totally agree, I have often wondered that same thing and that is the only thing that bothers me to be honest.
I would like to know if anyone can give me the answers?
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Kyle Premium
It will definitely help you get things in motion in the first couple of months, but Google usually starts to grant active websites their breakthroughs around month 3. That is typical so if you invested every hour for the first couple of months you might still fall short.

If you are not going to give yourself a year to achieve success in business, you are not being realistic about the process.
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Sdaviscs1250 Premium
Kyle,

Lately I am getting some verbal flack from my spouse "are you making any money yet." He doesn't understand what I am doing and even stated he could be this consistent (14 months) to attempt to learn this. I like it to a PhD program..

I am scaling back my face-to-face clients, too draining at present. I want to increase more of my online business. WA came into my life at the right time.

Thanks,

Sharon
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Kyle Premium
An online business is definitely far more scalable and it works for you 24 hours per day.

You can communicate with people and your clients "en masse" and you don't have to spend the enormous amount of time face to face with clients which is not only draining, it is not time or cost efficient.
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solidwalnut Premium
Kyle--

Kyle, thanks for this. You've really hit on something. Not that this is a new type of message from you, but rather than it's been given in a way and in a perspective that many people need.

What you offer is a paradigm shift away from the non-reality of instant gratification in the online world to the reality of the ADVANTAGE that the online world offers in the form of mass amounts of eyeballs.

That was just not very possible in the world before the internet. Time to take share this message to the streets!

Steve
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dominic16 Premium
The "Imagine" part of your article is what I'm visualizing myself in 2 to 3 years time. I mean for me honestly, I like to play with visualization techniques to get a picture of where I want to go in life. But it will just turn into fantasy if I keep imagining without taking the right amounts of action.

As I progress in my journey towards building my website, I've realized 10 times more than ever that Self-Discipline is one of the most important traits that I must possess if ever I'm going to be successful in the online world. I may not have enough funds, but I have the abundance of time (like 8 hours a day) to work on creating content, educating myself, and working on the operations part of my website. Being a blogger or an internet marketer I would say is one of those jobs that you don't earn steady income unless you pull yourself together and have the right discipline to work.

It's funny every time I wander off and searching for quick bucks online that I discover these clicking schemes, or get paid programs that promises unrealistic results. I mean I could go by the numbers and prove that the program is totally a fraud. And I can't believe that people are still falling for this fantasy of a "get rich quick" scheme. I just realized more than ever the need for education in order to fend off these crooks.

So I guess the key takeaway I could get from this blog is simply to "be realistic", and that's what I'm doing right now.
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KellieSkanda Premium
Kyle, I love how simply you explain this method of business building and entrepreneurial opportunity while ensuring people truly understand that failures are a result of unreasonable expectations of this business model, NOT any flaw in the business model itself.

I know people nowadays have shorter attention spans, are quicker to leave websites, and even quicker when making snappy judgments (making a good first impression has never been so tough - some studies now say you've got 3-4 seconds!), etc... And I think, in my opinion, that has influenced how people view "businesses" that are based online. People seem to want results NOW. And they don't want to have to work hard. (Or worse, they THINK they ARE working hard, but they have no clue what hard work really IS). We've been bombarded with so many strategies and systems from infomercials, online, everywhere... that promise riches in days or months, it's become the standard - which is unrealistic and dumb. Can it happen in some circumstances? Sure. Of course. But that's not the point. Gone are the days of "delayed gratification." Remember when it was a standard of expectation that you had to EARN something if it was meant to be of value?? I would never have guessed we'd turn into a society of such rampant entitlement.

And that makes me sad.

Anyway, I digress. LOL - as you can see, you've hit on a topic that irks me to my core so I apologize for my "brain dump."

I just wanted to take a moment to say "thank you" for all that you do, that you're appreciated (I'm sure I speak for all of my fellow Wealthy Affiliate members when I say that), and that I was really impressed with the way, in your article, you totally managed readers' expectations while explaining the value of investing just a few well-focused hours each week.

Not tons of money...just A FEW WELL-FOCUSED HOURS EACH WEEK.

Get up 30 minutes earlier every day. That's it.

In my humble opinion, you just can't get a better retirement plan than that.

You rock!
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DBrashier Premium
I've not seen it in the messages I read through so I'll mention that spending all that time doing it wrong is even worse than not spending time. Malcolm Gladwell mentioned taking 10,000 hours of practice to be an expert in something, but if you (to use the golfing analogy I saw in the messages) practice your swing with the wrong coach, or with the wrong clubs, or even without getting flexible, you'll be 10,000 hours of bad muscle memory in the hole. I think for a lot of us who've tried to do this for years, we've learned bad muscle memory in the online world. I'm trying to relearn things here so that, with the right coach and tools, I'll get there in the end.
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KellieSkanda Premium
Practice doesn't make perfect....PERFECT practice makes perfect!

You nailed it! Well said!
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brooksbode90 Premium
I have no computer background, more so to have background in online business or marketing, but I do know that to run a good honest business inside or outside the internet world, requires real skills and time; it seems to me, that the need for skills in the online world is even a greater factor, and skills of course, are not acquired over night, so I think I totally understand, and agree with your above arguments, Kyle. Thanks for enlightening and confirming.
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Rich908 Premium
Most encouraging blog Kyle . I think most people see internet marketing as an easy way t earn revenue. The reality bites when they have to put in the hard work and see writing blogs as a chore.For me its a Passion

"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible and suddenly you are doing the impossible".

Francis of Assisi
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burtchell1 Premium
Thanks Kyle, This is what differentiates the winners from the losers. It is my experience in life that I always get out of it what ever I put into it. If I am a golfer and I want to stay out of the rough I practice as much as I can, I don't mean to be out there swinging a club in a lightning storm but I try to do the best I can. If I want to get even better I hire a coach, well here at WA your coach is absolutely free and with a few divots along the way you can be as good as you want to be.

Just like golfing, you have to be interested in the sport in order to get ahead of the game, it is not for everybody.

I do not golf, I got tired of chasing the balls in the rough and I knew this game was not for me.

I tried other online sales and they did not work for me, I knew I wanted to play this online game I just could not find the right players. Here the other players are on your side and they are rooting for you to win. This is the type of game that I like to play.
So Best Wishes to All and just keep following through the strokes and your game will get better.
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Kyle Premium
Exactly, we provide you with the best clubs in the business, the best swing coach, the best caddy and the best looking equipment out there.

The practice and the time you invest into your "game" is what will lead to you creating a long term and successful career. I love your analogy here!
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Nanowave Premium
This sounds great but it makes me wonder if I'm putting in enough on my site. I make about 3 post per week/pages. But I'm working on my site constantly, from keyword research, to taking a week to write a post, to learning here on this site, to adding more things, to changing up the site, I don't expect any money within the year though. But I wonder am I not doing enough?
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tyrellch Premium
I think you are, you are investing your time into research, learning more and creating posts. With time, with gained knowledge and experience the cycle of research and posting will become more efficient and you will have a bigger captive audience.
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Kyle Premium
Yes, you absolutely are. Your website is going to cumulatively grow in the future based on your activities now. I think you are doing great!
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WLG Premium
Thank you once again Kyle for you sharing your knowledge with us. One has only to look @ your body of work and instantly we sit up straight and pay close attention.

You are on point because we in live in a right now society! We want Everything instantaneous, this is our nature.We unfortunately look for shortcuts in everything we do. As the old saying does Rome Wasn't Built In a Day!

I myself am guilty of this from time to time, I have to take a step back, take a deep breath and refocus. I am now building my websites and I have everything except the privacy page built ,somehow I missed it while viewing the video so I have to go back and listen to what Kyle said to do.

Frustration is a fault I possess and I am trying hard to alleviate it but it's easier said than done. The outside issues that are interfering with my progress have almost been eliminated; thank GOD! Today I should have @ least one of my sites fully operative.

To GOD I Give The Glory;
Your Brother In CHRIST;
Respectfully;
William
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LJacob Premium
Thank God you give Him the glory. Hewill surprise you the more continue to trust Him in all things
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WLG Premium
Hello LJacob,
Yes I do give Him the Glory, because HE Is Worthy.
To GOD Give The Glory;
Hallelujah and Glory To His Holy Name;
Respectfully;
Your Brother In CHRIST;
William
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Ramseystrate Premium
I fully agree with everything you say in this piece. Guess what. I have spent time just trying to create a website and still don't even have a website. I used your piece about building the website and got an approval on the name I chose but the website never came up. Am I missing something. How can I start working on content if I can't get a website started. HELP, HELP, HELP.
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MelaniLukito Premium
How can? Have you follow the instruction in Certification lesson? Did you get a message from the system? If you got a message then screen shot it and send your question to SiteSupport in SiteRubix menu. Usually they answer quickly.
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Imagine someone can convince you that they have genuinely discovered a method of easily making $10,000 or even $100,000 /mnth on-line and for just $99.95, they will eagerly reveal that secret method to you so you can repeat their success.

Why are they being so kind and generous considering how highly competitive any form of internet marketing business venture can be? Some of these offers go so far as to guarantee your efforts will reap these elaborate incomes or they will personally send you the $10,000, or whatever their eclectic landing pages promised.

Now, the question we should be asking is - what drives anyone to believe and invest in these snake oil salesmen? Is is human gullibility or inherent greed that prevents one from sensibly analyzing these fly-by-night schemes? Whatever their motive,it is a sad facet of the desperate times in which we live.

Personally, I read about Kyle and Carson years ago and gave them time to prove their mettle with their WA business venture; and they certainly have progressed in many varied aspects and WA has grown into a viable and lucrative company through their remarkable vision and the hard work of all the committed members over the years.

Having witnessed the journey that WA has traveled and read all the genuine heartfelt success stories, I stand as one who is totally convinced that Kyle and Carson of Wealthy Affiliates are sincerely the 'real deal' of the internet marketing world.

Respectfully,
Hassan
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Defiant6 Premium
This is why I love Wealthy Affiliate. You promise that there are no shortcuts, no magic formula (there is, just not the one most people want), no promises of big money in just a short amount of time.

Like you said, in a traditional day job you usually put in 40 hours a week. That's a lot of hours to get things done. If you don't spend time like that on a business, how can you expect it to succeed. You're right about being patient and building an online business takes time that's why it's important to celebrate the small successes you've accomplished as you build up to the big ones.
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llj-tucson Premium
Everything of value requires hard work and takes time. I easily spend 20 hours a week between the training, my site and reading articles. I don't find a year to be unrealistic at all. But what I'd love to know is how many people are pumping out 1,000+ word articles in 1.5 hours? I can't even come close. I spend more time than that researching the topic.
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RobertWynn Premium
I believe everything Kyle is telling us. I have spent a lot of time going over the lessons from the beginning again learning how to do this. I'm very confused but the wife is now helping out and we will someday make it. I drove truck for 30 years And i can guarantee I have been close more than once to all of your homes. I guarantee it took me years to do all of this confidently.Being Retired I'm taking is slowly and learning again As I go down the big Wealthy Affiliate Highway again.
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AussieJeff Premium
You're so lucky to have such an understanding Wife, Robert.
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AussieJeff Premium
This defies all logic that folks are thinking of fast money and getting rich quickly. Either there's a lot of people in "dire straights" or they just aren't thinking clearly! Getting rich quick isn't in the realm of this World and most people know this to be the truth.
But when they come online, all logic is lost.
No wonder so many people get scammed in the push for instant wealth that doesn't exist!
Maybe one day this instant thought realisation to instant riches will succumb to logic and good old-fashioned hard work.
Thank's for the genuine opportunity that you offer at Wealthy Affiliate, Kyle.
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MFogarty Premium
I have been putting in 4-6 hrs a day learning and blogging and researching and more learning without even imagining the possibilities like what was mentioned in this blog. LOL.. I just knew that hard work reaps results no matter what the job and I am going to make this work for me full time not part time. If I am going to make it WORK full time then I need to give full time effort too and not half ass it. There is no reason to try if you are not going to try 100%

Mike
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Agradecer Premium
Kyle, this was not just a reality check. I am not disillusioned. You gave me more information than you know. (you gave the info.You know.) You revealed to a newbie like me just a glimpse of the way income can be made IN TIME. You are a leader and if we can filter all the info, but keep in mind the basics, we will succeed with following your direction. It is so easy to get distracted!

Just when I think I should only consencrate on my Lessons, you let me know I should definitely not miss your informative and sharing blogs.
Gregory

PS. How do you bookmark this blog of yours?
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pharmercist Premium
press on star at the top of the article.
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cowichangirl Premium
Thank you, this is something I needed to read. It is obvious that I have a lot to learn. The reason why I got interested in this was because of a friend, he told my husband that I could learn dropshipping and quit my job within 3 to 6 months if I work on it! I am still trying to understand this site wealthy affiliate!
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shashe Premium
Great reminder that as your own boss and business owner it is still your blood, sweat and tears if you want it to succeed and now you and only you make the choice on how much, how bad you want it and how long it takes. Your choice ...it is not magic. Thanks Kyle. s
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RichMH Premium
Thanks for reeling me back in! So much noise with all the new shiny objects out there...gets frustrating trying to figure out a plan to incorporate the next big thing into my site(s) and make it work with the past "great things" i purchased. They just sit there because Still need to build out my framework.

End result = Stagnate...No action.

Just put the time and energy into the basics. After get established and grow---perhaps implement the toys marketers are selling later that can best supplement your business.
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KeithMaki Premium
Thank you Kyle! I know sometimes I need to be reminded of the reality of the businesses...I know for me a lot of the learning had to come first and now I am in the process of the building and I will go for the 15 - 20 hours per week dedicated to the site! Keith
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JackSmith1 Premium
I put about 40 hours a week into my sites now (around 10 hours for each site each week.) The results are going well because although some of my sites are performing better than others in terms of income they are still moving in the right direction and getting increases at a steady rate.
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dlfenton Premium
Thank you, Kyle. I think that starting out, it can be easy to believe that all this will happen magically on its own, because there are too many "others" out there that try to position online business that way . But I have a saying: "There's only two ways to get traffic: Pay for it or work for it". Putting in the hours to build your content and generate traffic to your website will create such a positive effect!
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Compsol99 Premium
Some great points here Kyle! You mentioned that this is NOT a get-rich-quick scheme. That's what separates WA from these other online businesses, promising you the moon and the stars. You get out of it what you put in, you "reap what you sow" to use a cliche, so a successful online business won't happen overnight.
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Johnathan23 Premium
Wow these are some inspiration words and I can picture what you saying is very true, I need to put in alot of work in my online bussiness like I'm putting into my learning for my career. With focusing on both with 1000 percent of my mindset and soul I be very successful!
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startouched Premium
Thank you for posting this, Kyle. I see these comments here all the time. Zooming through the training and then expecting to see your site ranked with very little content is unrealistic. Lately, I've seen the "Let's swap comments" and even some external sites set up to swap comments go viral. While I do believe that swapping comments and feedback here in WA, is helpful, I don't believe that any of the external programs help that much. It's easy to fall into that when you are yearning to see some traffic to your site. I am keeping slow and steady as my motto and following your suggestions of going back and prettying up my old blogs as well as adding quality content as my priority.
Thank you for all you do for us!!
-Kathy
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Joaswa2 Premium
Thanks for that feed back newbe needs all the info she can devour
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Swangirl Premium
I agree Kathy. Comments are great but having quality content is the most important aspect no matter what!!!

The more quality content you have the more likely you are to get good comments too!
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JohnStevens Premium
Spot on Kyle, It is a regular occurance seeing our members asking :-
When do I start earning
How much will I get
Not made a sale yet....
etc etc.
Come on guys, it ain't going to happen for quite a while. Then there is no magic wand, no guarantees it will ever succeed.

My own opinion is, I never think about what is in it for me. I work at a slow pace, building my website with as much help our WA members can give me. I don't think of time, weeks, months or years, just keep plodding on and learning as much as possible. There is no end to this enjoyable journey here at WA, if you are serious about your business. If you are not then you have an end, if you quit ,that is your end.
Kyle and Carson have given us the tools to climb this ladder that has no end. It is our responsibility to utilise these tools, in giving ourselves the best chance to keep climbing these never ending steps to success.BUT no guarantees.

Sorry Kyle, needed to be said.

Thank you,
John
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DavePage Premium
Agreed, I've only been here since April this year, got two premiums and 9 sign ups. Yes I'd love all of those to convert and then to see lots of WA invite emails hitting my inbox within a week BUT these thing do take time, the trick is to keep pushing forward, even if it's one post a week, that's 52 in a year, you're still going forward. Personally, I'm here for the hard yard so I know I'll get that plane counter down sooner or later.

Only problem I have with Wealthy Affiliate is that it's so damned addictive
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Tcanals1 Premium
Thank you John!
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Marcus1978 Premium
The sad thing is, it is actually possible to make money quickly, but ONLY if you con other people out of their money. As you know, every single day, new "make money online" products are released that try to squeeze as much money out of people as possible with their ridiculous upsells.

These launches play into people's unrealistic expectations by claiming their revolutionary new technique or software can generate loads of money really quickly. But the people conned into buying these launches don't realise that the quickest way to earn loads of money is by doing your own such launches that con other people into parting with their money.

And it works, obviously, because they keep doing it. Day after day after day after day they are coming out with these products. They wouldn't keep doing that if people didn't fall for it each time.

But it's absolutely the worst way of making money, apart from actual crime of course.
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Kyle Premium
That is absolutely the case. If you either take money from others, you falsify or give them unrealistic expectations, or you simply push them into some scheme with the sole purpose of making money off of them.

That is unsustainable though because you can only rip so many people off before the world wakes up to it. If you want to create a long term and sustainable business, it must be done through helping others and doing so in a way that establishes yourself as a brand. That is what we teach here.
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Marcus1978 Premium
Definitely!
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DaveSw Premium
Hi, Marcus,

I agree with your point that there are scammers out there and they do make quick money on the backs of others...

But, I believe there ARE ways to make money quick online that are not scams...

All paths to success with online marketing do not pass through affiliate or content marketing, that is simply not what I have seen to now...

Here are some ways that are legitimate and in use every day:

(1) Virtual Assistant - Fiverr and similar, where people offer "gigs" to buyers in their areas of expertise.

(2) Educational Sites - Your own or using a platform. Another avenue where similar training on varied subjects that people are selling to others...

(3) Selling tools that actually work - There ARE some products and services that are legitimate and help the online marketer do more with the same time invested...I am thinking of the many tasks we have as online marketers...There are developers that are making a LOT of money selling these legitimate products...

(4) Drop-shipping/e-commerce - There is a TON of money being made on a regular basis selling real products that have real value. Whether you sell your own or as an affiliate, money to be made (more if you sell your own!)...

(5) Selling eBooks i.e. Kindle - Writing books and offering them for sale either through Kindle or other platform is legitimate and a viable online marketing strategy...You can make some good money if you have something of value to offer others...'

(6) Promoting Good Products via paid ads - You can make good money just by becoming an affiliate and buying targeted traffic and sending that traffic directly to the sales page - you do not need any content - just an ad that is good enough to compel the viewer to click through to the sales page!

These are ones just off the top of my head. Having said that, my preference is to work on the content side, as we learn here, and parallel to that effort do the things that provide immediate income using some of the methods mentioned above.....

Cheers!
Dave : )
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Marcus1978 Premium
All valid methods, Dave, but they all involve either spending time working on them, or investing money.
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DaveSw Premium
I agree with that...If you build a business, generally there will be some investment required...Even if it is time, that represents money you could be missing out on with a second job...Money is required for the affiliate route as well...I guess it comes down to what your goals are and how you take action to achieve them...
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Marcus1978 Premium
Yes, sometimes it's a case of choosing between getting paid for the work you do, or working to build up something long term which will eventually earn residual income. For example, I could get paid to write articles for other people, or I can write articles for my own websites and hopefully get the financial rewards later.
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RogerHumbke Premium
I love your take on the whole process of building an on-line business. Have been at it for 7 months full time and not regretting one minute of it.

A friend of mine has favourite quotes ""The 3 C's of life.... choices, chances & changes. You must make a choice to take a chance or your life will never change"!

Wealthy Affiliates has been the right choice for me and has given me the chance to make a big change. It just takes time, realistic expectation and patience to get the results.
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Kyle Premium
Yeah, love the 3 C's. :)
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BenTy Premium
Thx for this article Kyle, This is quite honest on what we should expect in our online business experience.
It's difficult to put in so much time in the online business when some of us start off doing this while holding full time day jobs (40hrs Weekly).

Kyle, I think this article is quite valuable however if you could do a second part advising on how to balance Full Time Jobs with building the online business and how to manage expectations in such a situation..thx
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Good point! This is the very issue I'm struggling with right now. Between working, kids, and somehow fitting in a little bit of sleep I don't have very much time left over!
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Kyle Premium
It absolutely is the reality of it. Online business and a successful one can be achieved MUCH quicker than offline, but it still takes effort and dedication. It can also be done on a bootstrap budget which is awesome, outside of your membership here (which includes all the services you need), you honestly don't need anything at all!
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Barryw1 Premium
To me just being in the game and striving to improve my business is what it's all about. It's exciting, most days.

As long as I am in the batter's box I have a chance to hit it out of the ballpark. You can't do that from the bench.

Maybe it will be the next pitch. Crack! Going, going, it's gone.

A single drop of water can drill through a mountain one drip at a time. It's just a matter of time really.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Barry
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TheBuilder Premium
Thank you very much Kyle for this inspiring blog.

You can't imagine how much this has helped me psychologically.

Last month was my first month. I've successfully created a website. Then I invited over 1000 contacts through emails. I was emailing them almost everyday (following your advice) for over one week.

Results --> Zero. A big ZERO.

I was very disappointed. But I've agreed with myself to give me two more month with WA. And I have planned to quit if I don't get result within 3months.

But now I think I'll give myself one whole year. I guess I need to upgrade yearly. This will probably help me further.

Tyrell success inspired me too. I need to follow his path. Kind Regards
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JimCoffeyII Premium
Never Give UP!
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tyrellch Premium
Thanks for the mention Ibrahim. I am humbled. It is great to look at this as an investment and look at putting in the effort to ensure you get a return at the end of the financial year. If it comes earlier it is a bonus and an additional encouragement. All the best.
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kiliwia62 Premium
Certainly a long overdue and important post, thanks, Kyle.

I also do believe that it will take still a long time for people to, finally, realize that they have to put time and "real" work into their online business as they always have done (or maybe not) for their offline business.

The other fact, in my opinion, is the realization that being your "own" boss, being responsible for generating an income, isn't as easy as they might have thought when still being employed, working for "the boss".

Great post!!!
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JeffW1 Premium
I'm currently spending as much time as I can on developing my sight and getting things rolling. I know I won't see a dramatic change overnight, but I'm in it for the long haul. My full time job pays the bills for now and gives me a reasonable amount of time to work - looking forward to a time when I can focus ALL of my energy on growing my online business!
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Laryzen019 Premium
I think I speak for anyone who has bought into a lot of programs before landing here like myself, sometime we forget the overall goal ahead and have been blinded by false hope . This blog shines some necessary light needed to get things back into perspective.

Thank you Kyle
This is definitely a good wake up call!
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Love this. Everyone puts on those get rich schemes. I haven't tried them. They seem tempting but I know if you don't work for something you don't get it. You have to work in you, your business, and etc at least a few hours a day. Money doesn't just come to you.
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BrettLS Premium
This is some of the best advice that can be given to anyone looking at setting up an online business. It's sad to see that so many out there believe the claims of so many scams out there, that you can work a few hours and become successful and earn a great income.

Great article Kyle.
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Yattish Premium
Great blog post! For me, it's about the learning more than it is about making the $$$
I believe if you love & enjoy what you do, no matter how much of time you spend on it, the money does come eventually.
But, it's how you approach anything that determines your success!

Thanks for the motivating article
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Yes, Kyle . . . I dreamed that dream so many times! But the truth always lurked in the back of my mind. You hit the nail right on the head and I'm excited to see that day when I can do less but earn more. In the meantime, I have decided to make WA my full-time job coz of the learning curb and the "other" job as my part-time time one! An experiment on my part but I'm hoping to see good results in the long run. Thank you for the reality check . . .
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ShaneWelcher Premium
Now back to the real world for a minute, if you work 60 hours a week of your hourly day job and a few hours a day on your website plus an additional day on the weekend to add content and you never get to invest anymore time because you don't make any money online then your prime resource is what you depend on so 60 hours a week it is.

Look, the fact is, we all have different challenges and some are harder than others but we still try our hardest, to say that you reap more of a benefit the more hours you invest in yourself is true but when you have a family to provide for an you are the soul provider then you do what you have to do.

I have worked my tail off to get to where I am, I have worked as hard as I can to get my website to be as value added to a reader as I have time for, even staying up extended hours of the night to do work.

Getting up early at times but to have no resource of money coming in from this is trying and does get to the point of being frustrating but I still put forth the effort.

In short, this is for some people and this isn't for others, for me, we will soon tell.

I help as many people in WA as I can and truth be told, I enjoy helping people so maybe that is why I have stuck around as long as I have.

Just a thought,

Shane
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JimCoffeyII Premium
Hey Shane,

Just wanted to take a minute and reach out to you and let you know that I personally understand exactly where you're coming from. I'm sure most of us do. Thanks for keeping it real and putting it out there.

With that said I also want to share that you have an awesome professionally built website and you should be very proud of the work that you've put in. It will pay off dude. You've got what it takes.

Keep Up The Good Fight! It's worth it.

~Jim
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ShaneWelcher Premium
Thank you very much Jim, it truly is about helping others that has gotten me this far and I don't plan on stopping, whether it is helping out or growing my site. I'm trying to find more time to do all.
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andrel Premium
Hi, Kyle and all our wonderful company.
Honestly, I try to spend less time reading WA emails but time to time take a quick look.
Your latest blog comes right in time.
Why?
I knew that it takes a time to see real results. My a bit more than year young site visitors count slowly but steadily rising as well as an Amazon clicks, but conversions tend to decrease.
Actually, I intended to launch new websites, but no! I will continue to work with an even greater return as I know that it is tons of money in my chosen niche. Just need to learn more how to turn visitors into buyers.
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Gerard2463M Premium
Thanks for that Kyle,I always say to people if you do not water the grass it will die but if you give your lawn plenty of water and feed it will flourish and look good, same for any business you put in the time you get the rewards back but it takes a lot of time,but god made plenty of that,people need to have a good read at this post and let it sink in.
Regards,
Gerard.
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JerryHuang Premium
I can agree with you more, Kyle! I've talked to people who didn't managed to do it and consider WA or this kind of online thing as a scam. I did teach about something like this but you put it in a much clearer and convincing way. I hope those people who are facing the same issue can see this and take the time to read this!

Cheers,
Jerry
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I absolutely agree 100% with this! I know that I am guilty of wanting the instant success. Lately I have tried to be more realistic, I am starting to realise that the hours you put in will pay off, but to not expect the payout to be faster than if I was working a normal 9 - 5 job.
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Kerryanne Premium
Love the article Kyle.You say it the way it is. It is nothing short of what Wealthy Affiliate stands for realistic, honest, educational and informative teachings. I want to learn everything I can from Wealthy Affiliate, because I believe there is no better platform to learn online marketing from.Much appreciated.
Thank you
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RamenRiches Premium
Great post Kyle and I love the analogy between regular shift work and running an online business. I think too many people believe ( thanks to gurus and scams ) that this is just a quick push button revenue stream.

It takes work to make it start, but once the engine gets rolling, the possibilities of the future are limitless.
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TomasB Premium
Well said Kyle.Time is probably the commodity we all need the most to learn all the information you are teaching,but it's the thing that we are all short of because of all our other duties and obligations.

Keep up the great job that you are doing for the community that you created.We will keep on learning and creating,and have fun doing it.
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Fractaldog Premium
The people who are earning substantial incomes from their websites have acquired a skill set. Learning a skill takes time. Get-rich-quick scammers take advantage of the instant gratification mindset you mentioned. I'm glad to have found mentoring and a step-by-step program for skill building. Thanks for the reminder that nothing happens without focused effort.
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Kyle Premium
This is most definitely the case. In other words, they gave themselves enough "time" to succeed. I always say and it is true to this day, I have never seen someone fail that didn't quit.
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theresroth Premium
That is what I suspected, Kyle.
But, why not?
We spend already almost double your minimum recommended effort, just to make sure that our bosses are satisfied, and let us stay in a company!
Definately worth planning life properly, so this time is available for our endeavor......
Thanks for your post and encouragement!
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RoopeshG Premium
Its so true that because things are online and things work faster like communication people tend to assume that online business will gain momentum quicker. As you said, this is far from the truth.

It's all based on the amount of time that we invest in our online venture that will determine its ultimate success.

Thanks for this
Regards
Roopesh
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Baricus2016 Premium
Wow! What a thoughtful post, Kyle! Inspirational as well as being a very realistic way to approach building a lasting business online. I need to copy and pin this message above my computer for those days when I feel like giving up due to a seemingly lack of progress or monetary success for my online efforts.
Many thanks!
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Kyle Premium
If you are being productive, there is no lack of progress. As far as I am concerned, every "tangible" action is progress. Every word I write, every comment I engage in, every new post I publish, every relationship I build, every new thing I learn.

People view their only success in business as money. That is the wrong approach to business and anyone that is building real businesses makes BUILDING their business their focus, money is the natural byproduct of that.
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thriftymom Premium
This is really great article Kyle! I'm trying to find time to finish courses here while building my website, as well as doing household chores as a single mom while working more than 40 hours a week on my job. My progress is slow because of time restrictions, but this system is working.

I'm 5 months (premium) studying courses here, yet I'm still on the early stages of Level 3 of affiliate bootcamp. Made only about 15 posts for that 5 months (only 3 posts a month). Able to get some referrals and one just upgraded - not bad for few posts. If only I could spend more time building my website and marketing it, then I could make much more.

- Ces
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OlderGuy Premium
Hi Kyle,

Great article, so true

To me, whether, online or offline, business is business; at the beginning customers are not going to come to you, you have to go out and get them, then you have to find ways to keep them. It takes years to develop any business and a lot of hardship; it’s a competitive world, especially these days.

Your one of the few in your type of business, that tells it the way it is; it takes a lot of hard work, time, creativity, dedication, cunning, and innovation to create a successful business. The Internet business is one of the few businesses I know about that takes very little money and a lot of time to create; you can also learn as you go. The old saying, “Time is Money,” means a lot in the Internet marketing business.

Like any business owner, you never stop thinking. Ideas are not a 9-5 job; they are a 24/7 job. You have to grab opportunities when they arise or your competition will beat you to the punch; always try to be one or two steps ahead of them.

What I’m saying is, if you want to be a business owner, which I have been, there are no set hours to success; it just takes a lot of them. You have to work the hours or your just wasting your time.
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Anh Premium
Kyle,

I've always loved your down-to-earth yet inspirational approach and it really shone through in this post.

It's amazing how an online business is different compared to a typical job. You can really scale it in the long run, and be able to work from anywhere in the world. A much more worthy investment in 10 years.

That said, it's not an easy task to work on your own. It will be stressful, it will be hard. As you said, commitment is key. If you are willing to put in the sweat and blood for years, there is no way you can fail.

Thanks for sharing!

Take care,
Anh
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JeffBoivin Premium
I do agree 1 million % with Kyle :)

I went TEN years at university to get a specific degree TEN years of my life and it didn't pay that much the first years I got it... To produce a doctoral research we must spend hours and hours and hours on it, YearS on it.

And to be honest my online business has MUCH much more potential to make me REAL good money and freedom than my career, that I love by the way :)

It is gone be my first year anniversary soon at WA and I didn't even scratch what I can learn from this system. The more I learn the more my personal business strategy is defined. Never EVER try to get something with no serious effort, period !

Cheers to all of you who INVEST their time in their online business. Success will follow, Jeff
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rosieM Premium
I like the way this is broke down....3 hours per day may seem like a lot ..such as those with full-time jobs and children. If you only went to work for 3 hours, what would be the result? A full week's pay for not even one-half day's work? Make whatever time you have count.
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KronicSurfer Premium
Well said!
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Kyle Premium
Yeah, the brilliant thing is that 3 hours per day can lead to big things over time. That is partly what I was getting at, that same 3 hours if productive, can be much better applied to building a business.

What happens in business is that you will cumulatively grow based on your time investment. Whereas with most jobs, your income is flatlined whether you work 1 hour or 10,000's of hours, there is no opportunity for linear growth.

People don't start with 10 hours per day to invest in an online business and I totally accept that. Do what works, and the work will pay off with time.
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DaveSw Premium
Hi Kyle,

This is a good post...

I would like to add to your ideas on growing an online business...

CONSIDER WORKING ON DUAL SOURCES OF TRAFFIC

My suggestion is that members use some of the hours that they dedicate to their online business, whether 3 hours a day or 8 hours a day to pursuing a dual track for growing that business...

BACKGROUND OF "THE PROBLEM"

The fact is that without traffic you have no business, no matter how good what you are promoting may be, no matter how you present it or where...

That is the frustration with many new online marketers as they see 3 months, 6 months or more go by...They are spending time creating volumes of content and not seeing traffic nor sales...

As you say, it takes time and consistent effort...

MY PROPOSED SOLUTION

Pursue a dual track of paid traffic (using PPC, Solo Ads, etc.) AND organic traffic (content based) when planning and executing your online marketing business...

REASONING

(1) Organic traffic is effective and builds over to time, as you eloquently point out...It requires research, creating engaging, educational, and possibly entertaining content; editing the content , and publishing it on the various platforms, to include a website, social media sites, forums, etc.

As stated, by its very nature, this tactic will take time and is cumulative...If you do not pursue this avenue, you are leaving money on the table...There is a LOT of traffic available (and it is "paid for" through front end labor, and thereafter free)...

(2) Paid traffic, on the other hand, requires only that you create and market offers using the elements below...

(a) A COMPELLING AD. You have to create an effective ad...One that compels the targeted viewer to take action and click through to a landing page or to the sales page.You are not selling the product, your focus with this element is mainly on getting the viewer to click through to get more information.

(b) BRIDGE OR LANDING PAGE (OPTIONAL). A "bridge" or "landing page" that lays out the reasons why the item promoted is worthy of purchase and compels the viewer to take further action by clicking through to the sales page to buy the product or service...

Note that although this element is optional, and you could also send the viewer directly to the sales page of the promoted product/service, there are advantages to creating and using such a page...The main reasons I can see to do this are to capture leads, build your credibility, brand, and reputation...

(c) AFFILIATE PLATFORM/PAYMENT MECHANISM/TRACKING. These three elements I have grouped together and they all need to be in place to secure offers, receive payments for sales, and also to track how your marketing program is working and make adjustments as may be indicated....

Once you have planned, created the ads and pages; selected affiliate offers that are worthy of promoting (lots of selection criteria here, well beyond the scope of this comment); and added tracking, the advertising platform must be selected, and then start advertising/getting sales/commissions...

BOTTOM LINE

I think you have some training here on PPC and Solo Ads,and I would advise members to spend a portion of the hours learning about this traffic method...

What is here is enough to get you started and on the right path using paid traffic methods for building your business. As with any business, you must invest money, time, and effort to have success.

There is no instant millionaire solution, in reality, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Consider planning for some immediate success using paid traffic along with the longer term content marketing strategy for your organic traffic...

Using this dual approach will address some of the frustration with seeing little to no results for your time and effort. It will also prove to yourself that this online marketing can work (and it can, it has, and it will continue to work)...

Most of the super-affiliates are not using solely organic traffic...They are combining or concentrating ONLY on paid or email marketing...Why?

Once you have a successful PPC campaign that is converting, you can scale up and realize YUGE (OK sorry for the Drumpf word) profits...

Just my 2 cents!

Cheers!
Dave : )
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Steadfast61 Premium
Part of the process is the Learning. The journey that we are taking to become good website earners in time. I for one am loving the journey, enjoying learning lots of new things, then trying to develop them into something of value to whomever my readers will be.

I have learned so many things through WA - I can actually make a website!! Me, whose previous grapples with technology were coming to grips with a mobile phone! I find it all so exciting and fulfilling and I'm nowhere near my destination.

Don't be focussed solely on the end result or you'll miss so much of the enjoyment of getting there including the people you meet on the way.

I think, too, that if anyone is desperate to earn instant income then affiliate marketing shouldn't be considered an option in attempting to achieve it.
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PrBaker Premium
I'm running out of compliments for what Kyle and Carson have created here with WA. I believe they have created the gold standard on the internet for community support and the cross training that occurs as a result. I am continually encouraged by WA's community support and training as well as Kyle's clear-minded approach to creating a successful online business. Prior to my WA find, I participated in a couple of the other internet programs that emphasized some of the problems that Kyle pointed as reasons for failing online. It's refreshing for me to hear an owner emphasize the hard work reality of creating and growing a business online or offline. Again, the support here at WA makes the hard work easier to accept and get through successfully. Thank you, Kyle, for your clear thinking on business success. It refreshes and encourages me. And thank you for creating such a great business model that promotes such community support!
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tatihden Premium
I am imagining alright; mine is huge. I had unrealistic expectations for a while when I started my business. Now I understand that it takes a while any business to mature.

You are totally right; investing less than less than 20 hours a week at the start and expecting fulltime income in jiffy is very unrealistic.

Thanks for the reminder
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JimCoffeyII Premium
Kyle,

I love how you keep things in perspective for us. I hope every member of this community takes the time to read this post. In my opinion it's one of your most important posts yet.
I just want to quickly share that when I first started I simply couldn't understand how small investments of my time would have such large dividends later on. The only thing I knew was that I wanted the Affiliate lifestyle. I put the blinders on and moved ahead on faith. I did the work, ignored the shiney objects and it paid off. I never would have understood the return on my time investment if I didn't just have faith in the community and the process. In this business it's so important to just take action.
"Do things today that other people won't....
Live tomorrow like other people can't." -Jim Rohn

Keep up the great work guys!

~Jim
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MKearns Premium
For those coming out of an employee background which entails a steady paycheck, building as a freelancer is a leap.

I would venture that most affiliate marketeers here fall into that category. You have an unstructured atmosphere where YOU must provide the incentive and structure.
It requires :
-faith
-committed work
to seed the benefits that WILL come.

Thank you for promoting this basic operating rule and for all the great training and assistance here that facilitates this as a reality Kyle.
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Barbaras27 Premium
This exactly!
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STillman1 Premium
Realistic post here Kyle. The truth is if people spend some of those hours of creating valuable content and engaging in income producing activities like monetizing their offers, replying to comments to build relationships, properly tagging their posts, and more, etc. then the more time they spend on their business the more profitable it will become. However, I find the greatest virtue of all is having patience as sometimes even the things I mentioned may not bring in immediate results but at least you'll be on your way!
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salbene Premium
I have a problem with being impatient and wanting the results much faster than they actually come. I always have to remind myself to be realistic and think long term. Thanks for the post, always helpful to be real!
Reminds me of this great article that I found:
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Kyle Premium
Yeah, that is another similar post I created awhile back. Same tune, different ideology.

One thing I haven't mentioned is the idea that people will invest 4 years and 10,000's of hours into getting an education with no expectation for income, actually the expectation for loss of income and incredible expenses ($100K+ in lots of cases).

When it comes to their own business, 50 hours should be enough and heaven forbid investing $100 or $200 into their own business.
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salbene Premium
wow, that is incredibly true and I have never seen anybody put it this way, very eye opening. Thank you so much!
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AriefWibowo Premium
I think I have a very real expectation of what I'm doing here. I'm building 3 websites (Phew...) with one article per week per website. So, I'm giving myself a 5 years plan to achieve all my goals.

I am tired working 40 hours per week. I want 15 hours per week. 3 hours per work day. That is my dream.

3 hours per work day will allow me to have fun times every day with my daughter and wife. And I still work.

I want my daughter to see me work. I do not want her to have an idea that her parents (eventually we will) get rich without work.

Thank you for the post, Kyle!
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Newguru Premium
I'm pretty sure that most people don't realistically think that they can make a full time living after being a member of WA for one month.

But I think the vast majority of people who quit this do it because they actually realize that it does take time and hard work just like any other business.

A lot of people probably do join WA thinking that it will give them quick success. Maybe not the "Quick Success" that a lot of scams out there promise like over night success....But I think there are a lot of people that join this community thinking that they will make money within a month or so.

I know that when I joined this community I was told a lot that it takes time and that I wouldn't make money quickly. Even hearing that I still thought that maybe I would get lucky and that maybe I would have just what it takes to make money sooner than most.

Now I realize that it truly does work for anyone willing to put in the time and effort but that's the hard part....Time and Effort.

If you stick with it and put in the time you will see results. The amount of work is actually less than a normal job but like Kyle says in this blog, "If you give yourself a month and 15-20 hours to build a business, it will never happen".

Robert
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JoyNelson Premium
Kyle,

Yaro Starak just posted recently about how the top earners in his Blog Mastermind Program who earn a full time income, a 6 figure income and even a few who earn millions with their blogs put the time and effort into building their business rather than expecting overnight success.

Each of the main internet marketing gurus who are actually successful themselves agree with you on this point. I appreciate your honest approach to sharing this path with your community. What is lacking in a lot of the other online programs is a true sense of community support. That is what stands out about WA to me.

Thanks for your time and effort,

Joy
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Kyle Premium
Anyone that is credible and is in the business of helping others will show them the reality of what it takes. It isn't any harder than working a job, a normal job. In fact, I would say it is 100% easier than many jobs out there.

Digging a ditch is incredibly hard and I wouldn't have nearly the stamina to do that for 8 hours than to work on my business.

Thanks for your kind words and I am really glad you are enjoying the community spirit here! :)
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JoyNelson Premium
My pleasure.
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Ultimateless Premium
This is exactly how it is, I know that not earning from our websites is only to do with the amount of time we spend on them and you are right 36 hours over 3 months is hardly any time at all. Even with the amount I spend on my website it is nowhere near where I want it to be but I have a long term goal, this is not an overnight dream, it's a lifetime dream. Thanks, Kyle!
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Kyle Premium
But a lot can be accomplished in this amount of time, that is the cool part. A foundation of a business can be set out and you can be in a great position to grow and build on your business at that point.
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Ultimateless Premium
For sure, some people are getting brilliant results here in a short time.
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JohnA78 Premium
This seems to be a common question or complaint from newer members. I think people have become addicted to instant gratification and can't be bothered with the longview.

I'll be sure to link to this blog post the next time I read the question "When will I make money?"

Thanks for writing this Kyle. It's definitely a good reminder for everybody.
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Kyle Premium
Thanks John, it should definitely offer anyone getting rolling with the wrong idea of building a business (and that it takes) a good deal of perspective.

Rome wasn't built in a day, but it was built. Same goes with a business, it won't be built in a day but it WILL be built .
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SteveOlan Premium
Thanks, Kyle.

I have to say that I agree with you 100%. I am trying to do this on a very part time basis but have made sure to be realistic with my expectations. I actually gave myself a year to build the foundation for my business.

With that commitment, I was ok with not making a sale during that time, as well. As it turns out I made sales much sooner than that.

I actually wrote a similar blog post on my site last year about why bloggers fail.

Thanks again for your continued leadership and guidance. I'll see you in Vegas some day!
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Kyle Premium
Hours in, results out.

That is the formula, as long of course as those hours are spent productively. The results don't happen in an instant though but they happen much more frequently and with much more sustainability with more time and effort.

My argument has always been, most people work hard through any given week within their job. They then for some reason are not willing to invest the same amount of work into building a business or they expect totally different results (and exaggerated results) when they attempt to build a business.

Yes, you can be very successful in business. Anyone can. But you cannot expect the results to take place in an instant or without a lot of passion and effort.
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SteveOlan Premium
I could not agree more... And I see examples of what you are talking about, all the time.

Thanks again!
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EddySalomon Premium
I hope this puts this business in perspective for people. I love the hours breakdown. But that's tricky because some people will put in a lot of hours and not necessarily see the same results as they might with a 9-5. However in my experience the hours aren't always spent in the best ways or the content is lacking certain things. So I want to throw that caveat out there. Just because you spend a lot of hours on your business doesn't mean you spent them productively. Because I can hear people saying I do put all those hours and haven't seen the return yet.
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Kyle Premium
Yeah, there will definitely be some differences in terms of results and efficiency from person to person, but the law of averages will level this over time.

Some people hit homeruns within a few months, that happens. Some people it takes two years. But if folks put forth the time commitment, they can ensure success at a much higher rate if they are doing the right things. And that doesn't mean checking Facebook or emails! lol
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