YouTube Subscription Swaps?

Last Update: November 09, 2019

Hi everybody,

Not sure whether this would be beneficial or detrimental but I've just started out on the whole video creation thing with a couple of vids and a You Tube channel and I wondered if the idea of those of us who have channels were to like and subscribe each others' would be a good thing.

I'm open to doing that and or taking on board any potential reasons for it not being such a good idea and scrapping the plan altogether!

Let me know what you think or, alternatively, please point me in the direction of somebody else's blog where it's already been done.

Here's mine for what it's worth....

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj6ONMFO6D-dEbW4yhCyzOQ

Have a great weekend...

Mark

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laurenjean Premium
Thanks for asking this question, Mark. I learned so much from the responses. So no sub-for-sub thread then... just publish great content. Got it. Working on it.
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Mark1957 Premium
No problem Lauren, glad you got something from it anyway.

Mark
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megawinner Premium
Content is king in any place on the internet!
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Mark1957 Premium
I'd agree with that Florentino.
Mark
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MarionBlack Premium
Sorry, it's against YouTube's Terms of Service
"cause or encourage any inaccurate measurements of genuine user engagement with the Service, including by paying people or providing them with incentives to increase a video’s views, likes, or dislikes, or to increase a channel’s subscribers, or otherwise manipulate metrics in any manner;"
https://www.youtube.com/t/terms
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DaveSw Premium
Hi Marion, you are right...but...

I do not think that the subscribe for a subscribe proposition within the WA community members would make much of a difference...If we are freely willing to share with one another?

I guess if someone had some ulterior motives it could affect your channel in a negative manner (i.e. someone here accused you of manipulating the stats), but I just do not see that happening...

But I will agree that it could put you at risk...You never know...Good point (I never have had a problem to now)...Just seems a bit overkill in this instance, and not sure is the intent...

Taken to the extreme, none of my friends could subscribe to my channel as they are manipulating the system? Where do we draw the line?

Cheers!
Dave : )
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Mark1957 Premium
I guess that's pretty definitive Marion although I do "get" the point of Dave's protestations.
On balance, it's probably best not to rock YT's boat!
Thanks for your signposting on this :-)
Mark
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MarionBlack Premium
I totally agree with your "but". But YouTube is clamping down with these new rules which take effect 10th November 2019.

I've even stopped doing multiple views in incognito mode to boost a new video's view count. YouTube used to allow 300 own views but that stopped a while ago.
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DaveSw Premium
Thanks, Marion...I was not aware of the new rules, will check them out and also ask Adam Payne, who is a person that knows YouTube and the use of video for online business very well (I am a member of his paid group that focuses on all things video)...

He can give us a laydown on these new rules and the impact it will have on all users. I have been aware that YT has been demonetizing quite a few sites for various reasons (i.e. the focus of the channel) so it could very well be that we all need to take a look at what and how we are using the platform...

I do think that they (Google) are feeling the pressure from some of the political fallout from fake information that has been hitting the social platforms from special interests and even governments. Perhaps this is the reason for the tightening up...

For instance, some of the Christian channels are not showing up or are being deleted if they espouse fringe views - and conspiracy advocates are being hit as well...

Other social channels are feeling the heat too...

Twitter is refusing to run any political ads while Facebook is running anything in the name of making money and so on, but catching massive flack (rightfully?)...Strange times indeed...

Cheers!
Dave : )
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Joes946 Premium
Mark, Roope gave the right answer.
Joe
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Mark1957 Premium
Cheers Joe....lesson learned!

Mark
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Joes946 Premium
That's what it's all about Mark. It's a learning experience.
Joe
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DaveSw Premium
Do not agree...I see no harm whatsoever in following one another...Cheers! Dave : )
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Mark1957 Premium
Every day Joe, every day!
Mark
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RoopeKiuttu Premium Plus
I think YouTube doesn't appreciate that subscribe to subscribe thing.

Better to gain subscribers with quality content.
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Mark1957 Premium
Roope....thanks for that.

I did wonder if that might be the case so now that you've highlighted it I shall bin the whole idea.....lolssss

Mark
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DaveSw Premium
Hi, Roope...

I do not think it makes a difference...It depends on what you are after I guess...Why would Youtube not like a subscribe for a subscribe? Do they really care if we are doing this on a one for one basis here within WA?

If that was the case, we should not be adding our links anywhere as we may be trying to manipulate the system? It should all happen naturally by chance...(?)

Do you think they really have time for what would be a natural move (i.e. I follow those who follow (subscribe) to me?)...Maybe I am missing something?

The only caveat might be that the subscribers are not in the same niche as what you have so will not bring you any business...Other than that, I see no negatives...

This is not dissimilar to having your friend follow you and you follow him/her (subscribe)...Where do we draw the line?

As Marion points out, perhaps technically under the TOS they could ding you, but then they would have to ding you for asking your friend to subscribe?

Perhaps it comes down to intent and the prepondering evidence, but I hardly think that people subscribing to one another from this platform is against the TOS...

If we were paying for views or subscribers, yes...

Regarding quality content that is an entirely separate matter...That makes sense and has nothing to do with the number of subscribers you may have that may or may not have an interest in the niche...

Quite naturally you will draw in more of the people that you are looking for with quality content...That is what we are all trying to do...It is much the same as with making comments on blog posts I think...The more attention the better?

Let me know please, I really would like to know how you surmised the "this is not a good idea" idea...Perhaps we should ignore people that subscribe to us, it will be better? Just not following the logic here...

Cheers!
Dave : )
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Mark1957 Premium
I'm liking your fighting spirit Dave but I fear it might be a rearguard action.
I don't know for certain what's right or wrong here but Marion tends to be a font of online knowledge so it might be best to follow her lead on this one!
Mark
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JeffreyBrown Premium
Yes, Roope! Better safe than sorry it seems!

Jeff
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