Wow, but by the hair of my chiny chin chin.
That is a saying we use in the south when we are lucky to not have had something happen to us.
Today, I did a review on Empower network.
OMG , the stuff I found out blew my mind.
We are so lucky to be here at Wa, I really believe that the more I look around at what we could of gotten into.
Warrior forums, had some guy pretending to be female ripping off newbies.They are a bunch of sharks just hunting someone to prey on.
Empowernation expect the law to evidently be after you and them both from what I found out today.
I was never so grateful that I had lucked out and found here.
And while this is not perfect.Nothing is, we are dang lucky to get as much as we get here.
And when Kyle says nothing can compare,I am starting to believe he is more right than even he knew.
I felt dirty by time I got done researching two of these places.
That is something I had never experienced before.
IF you are even considering a attempt at them. Please, talk to me first privately.
I think my article will quickly change your mind.
That all said.
Lots of love to what we have here at WA!
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This is what I found so scary, I found my notes from article i was writing today for bootcamp.()yes i am doing other side now.)The first one basicaly say your not allowed to say nothing bad about them at all or they can sue you.
the second one talks about the law,which is really scary, third one ,u got to pay them to sell their affiliate.
I looked at wa terms and conditions.ours was one page in plain view and had none of this on it.
Terms & conditions and refund policy.
You agree that you will not make any derogatory statements, either oral or written, or otherwise disparage us, our products, employees, services, work or employment, and will take all reasonable steps to prevent others from making derogatory or disparaging statements. You agree that it would be impossible, impractical or extremely difficult to fix the actual damages suffered by reason of a breach of this paragraph, and accordingly hereby agree that Company may determine to recover damages sustained by reason of each such breach, without prejudice to Company's right to also seek injunctive or other equitable relief.
f you become compelled by applicable law, regulation or legal process to disclose any of the Confidential Information, you shall promptly provide us with notice in order for us to seek a protective order or other appropriate remedy. Further, if you become compelled to disclose any of the Confidential Information, you must disclose only that portion of the Confidential Information you are legally required to disclose as confirmed by a legal opinion of your counsel at your expense.
And (you have to pay them to let you sell their product.
Additionally, if you have chosen to join the optional Affiliate Program the monthly administrative fee is $19.95/month. The Affiliate Program is not a product, but rather part of the administrative process. The Affiliate Program allows an affiliate to sell products and earn commissions based on the Empower Network Compensation Plan. Additionally, it gives the affiliate access to tools, marketing data, etc. and supplies the E-wallet in-house merchant without additional fees. The monthly fee is non-refundable outside of the refund time frame established by the Refund Policy (See Section 2 of this document). The monthly recurring fee will be charged every 30 days, until canceled by you.
I looked into another "opportunity" just before finding WA. That one had a statement in its contract that basically said I they could say or do anything against me, and I agreed not to hold them liable. I will have to look it up again to get the exact wording. (Notice I did not mention any name)
yeah, this all started,because I was doing a review on scams,this company was on list kyle had for us to choose from. I started researching them all and boy did i find a mess.
They basically wrote my scam review for me because its their words that are so daming, not mine.
One thing I will never do is bad mouth another program. With 5 years of being online I realize that we all like different things and what might not be right for you may be perfect for others. I was with empower network a few years ago and it was not right for me. Yet, just because I am at WA I'm not going to throw any other companies under the bus. I'm with another program as well that I won't mention and have been there for 2 years now. I actually have a lifetime membership. But back to the topic. I feel it is not in good taste to publicly throw other companies under the bus. Many people will not like my reply and I understand that. Fact is I didn't join WA for the training and affiliate opportunity. I get all that elsewhere. I am here because they have great web hosting. No matter what happens in the future if we part ways, I will never say anything bad about WA because I just do not get down like that. No matter what company it is, no matter how we feel about them, they have a right to their brand. No one is twisting others arms to join EN or any other program. So who are we to say anything disparaging about any entity online.
I would normally never do it either,your right it is bad taste.
What I found today was so out landish and so horrible that I feel I have no choice.
I actually read their terms and conditions.Which normally a lot of people do not.
What I found blew me away.
I am not gullable at all.
But when a company is talking about if the law comes after you you must tell them so they can get a lawyer and you can only talk about certain things even then.That is to much.
That and other things has led to this conversation.
I look upon people in WA as a extended family.
I know curiousity is in us all.
I just wanted to protect those that maybe curious.
On the surface it sounds good.
Below it, its alligaters and pirrahnas.
WA is indeed an extended family - I am, and I'm sure others are, grateful for your heads up advice Lisa
I wrote an article on it that is why i can not post it here, We are not supposed to advertise for ourselves. But, anyone can see what I seen if they go read it in that one inch window of terms and conditions and read all of it, I think everyone would know why i was horrified.
Judging by all the kudos you are getting, I am pretty sure many agree with you. I just choose to be the exception. Maybe I need to reconsider my WA membership as I do not condone negativity.
Finally...It's just my opinion, but it seems that no one cares. I have memberships with other companies, not better or worse. Just different. And usually, the reviews I read it's by people who read this and that, but never had a real experience with the company! They shouldn't trash them because they have up sells or expensive products, because they don't really know the quality by experience! And if you have no experience with the company, you shouldn't believe in whatever you read!!!!
If writing about Terms and Conditions a company writes themself is negative, then I am guilty.
A lot of people do not read those, I am guilty of that normally.
I just want awareness to protect people.
Negative?Sure, i do not care to admit to that one,
Because it is the truth,it is not MY opinion. The stuff is in the TERMS and Conditions.
My WA family comes first over the feelings of a company that has things like that in their terms and conditions.
Hi Lisa,
I've heard nothing but negativity about Empower network, so couldn't agree with you more.
Haven't heard the expression "hair of my chiny chin chin" for a while, I think its from The Three Little Pigs nursery rhyme? Or at least that's where I first heard it!
Thanks for sharing the WA love!
Best wishes
John
Here, here. I have heard so much about Empower, but your post puts all the reviews in the dark. I totally agree that we are all very lucky and fortunate to have found WA. In my opinion, it is the best :)
Lisa, OMG, you had me dying laughing when you said you felt dirty after learning about what they offer. I advocate WA, because you can't get what you get anywhere else. Plus, WA works. As long as people apply to what they learn, stay committed and take action to their business, they should make a return on their investment. Great Post! :)
Thanks for sharing. I am sure there is more sleezy outfits today then ever. Thanks for keeping us in the loop!
As a former member (I quit VERY early in....).......unless you have a lot to spend, don't mind 'black hat' suggestions, etc. ....forget it....once I even got messages how to cheat on Craigs list....well, never mind, don't want a lawsuit.....that was almost 4 years ago....
Only enough to get the h___ out of it! You must join this, sign up for that....they own this, they own that.....even I already had a Get Response account, they wanted ONLY through them....it was past ridiculous.....
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You said it, that was some good investigation on your part. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good works
Thank you very much!
You are welcome very much