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HI,

Does anyone know how to get and show live scores on your website? I am making a website related to all sports and was just wondering if anyone knows how to create a l

You can simply use an iframe to show the content of an external website. I can't add the code here, but a quick google search for how to use an iframe will help you find what you need :)

Iframes are a controversial issue. While a court case of Perfect 10 Inc vs Amazon and Google, ruled in favor of Amazon and Google, it's likely due in part to Google's response that it was only showing thumbnails of the pictures (albeit using iFrames) which constituted fair use. Even though these large corporations (with deep pockets) won against the Perfect 10, they still had to proceed to go to court and fight their case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_10,_Inc._v._Amazon.com,_Inc.

Providers of live data (think ESPN, etc) are likely to have deep pockets as well. Displaying live scores in an iFrame is likely to draw attention from these providers.

In legal circles, you can be right, but it doesn't mean it won't cost you time and money. It's something to at least proceed with caution and possibly get the permission (in writing) of the companies that will be iframed.

The problem isn't so much with iframes - it's with people passing off framed content as their own. Providing you don't do that & you instead make reference to the source, you'll be good.

I think it's a slippery slope. You're right about the iFrames themselves not being the issue. It's the mechanism for delivery which doesn't make them illegal themselves. But, suppose you had contracted out with a financial firm to provide live stock data on your website. You even have an affiliate relationship where you can sell that data (via subscription) to others where they can display that data on their website. Then, a blogger turns around and iframes your website with no payment given. Are you going to be okay with that? Even if they credited your website, they are still getting the data that they should be paying for and displaying it on their website.

I am not a lawyer. But, if you look online, you'll find that it's not a cut-and-dry issue. If it were me, I would clear with the website owner before doing it.

Personally if that was the case I'd just prevent my content from being framed. To be honest I'm pretty sure there'll be more than enough free feeds available for sport scores - but for a newcomer with limited coding experience it'd likely be much easier to just go down the route of an iframe. Anyway JH77 has his options so he can delve into the legalities himself & figure out what's best for his situation.

I agree that providers of sensitive data tokenize and Oauth the data making it practically impossible for outsiders to grab it via any means. The example was an oversimplification.

I agree that obtaining feeds that are allowed and legit are a better way to go. I am just not sure it will be easy to find live feeds. You can get widgets and plugins for delayed stock quotes. It's the live ones that you likely won't find.

Also, you have to be careful with the feeds you do get. Yahoo finance does not allow people to publish their stock data, even delayed stock data. It cites this clearly in their terms of service.

Hmm, why would you need stock quotes & access to Yahoo finance? @JH77 just wants to display sports scores?

Stock quotes are just an example that I have worked with in the past. It was more just a reference on the process that may be involved when Joe (@JH77) explores this. I have a feeling the issues will likely be similar, but it will all reveal itself when he goes down that rabbit hole.

Here's the answer anyway, easy-peasy: https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/tags/live-scores/

LOL - yep! Via a plugin is Techhound approved!

I believe there are plugins available. However, they are not likely to be free as the data providers on this industry will probably want a cut of the action. I could be wrong, but that is my gut feeling on the topic. Just do a search for something like "live sports scores WordPress plugin" or some derivation of this.

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How to show live scores?

How to show live scores?

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HI,

Does anyone know how to get and show live scores on your website? I am making a website related to all sports and was just wondering if anyone knows how to create a l

You can simply use an iframe to show the content of an external website. I can't add the code here, but a quick google search for how to use an iframe will help you find what you need :)

Iframes are a controversial issue. While a court case of Perfect 10 Inc vs Amazon and Google, ruled in favor of Amazon and Google, it's likely due in part to Google's response that it was only showing thumbnails of the pictures (albeit using iFrames) which constituted fair use. Even though these large corporations (with deep pockets) won against the Perfect 10, they still had to proceed to go to court and fight their case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_10,_Inc._v._Amazon.com,_Inc.

Providers of live data (think ESPN, etc) are likely to have deep pockets as well. Displaying live scores in an iFrame is likely to draw attention from these providers.

In legal circles, you can be right, but it doesn't mean it won't cost you time and money. It's something to at least proceed with caution and possibly get the permission (in writing) of the companies that will be iframed.

The problem isn't so much with iframes - it's with people passing off framed content as their own. Providing you don't do that & you instead make reference to the source, you'll be good.

I think it's a slippery slope. You're right about the iFrames themselves not being the issue. It's the mechanism for delivery which doesn't make them illegal themselves. But, suppose you had contracted out with a financial firm to provide live stock data on your website. You even have an affiliate relationship where you can sell that data (via subscription) to others where they can display that data on their website. Then, a blogger turns around and iframes your website with no payment given. Are you going to be okay with that? Even if they credited your website, they are still getting the data that they should be paying for and displaying it on their website.

I am not a lawyer. But, if you look online, you'll find that it's not a cut-and-dry issue. If it were me, I would clear with the website owner before doing it.

Personally if that was the case I'd just prevent my content from being framed. To be honest I'm pretty sure there'll be more than enough free feeds available for sport scores - but for a newcomer with limited coding experience it'd likely be much easier to just go down the route of an iframe. Anyway JH77 has his options so he can delve into the legalities himself & figure out what's best for his situation.

I agree that providers of sensitive data tokenize and Oauth the data making it practically impossible for outsiders to grab it via any means. The example was an oversimplification.

I agree that obtaining feeds that are allowed and legit are a better way to go. I am just not sure it will be easy to find live feeds. You can get widgets and plugins for delayed stock quotes. It's the live ones that you likely won't find.

Also, you have to be careful with the feeds you do get. Yahoo finance does not allow people to publish their stock data, even delayed stock data. It cites this clearly in their terms of service.

Hmm, why would you need stock quotes & access to Yahoo finance? @JH77 just wants to display sports scores?

Stock quotes are just an example that I have worked with in the past. It was more just a reference on the process that may be involved when Joe (@JH77) explores this. I have a feeling the issues will likely be similar, but it will all reveal itself when he goes down that rabbit hole.

Here's the answer anyway, easy-peasy: https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/tags/live-scores/

LOL - yep! Via a plugin is Techhound approved!

I believe there are plugins available. However, they are not likely to be free as the data providers on this industry will probably want a cut of the action. I could be wrong, but that is my gut feeling on the topic. Just do a search for something like "live sports scores WordPress plugin" or some derivation of this.

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So in my store I offer equipment for a variety of sports, including football (soccer) and american football. In my store I display one as american football and the other as foo

Hi, I think maybe stick the universaly known terms:-
1) American Football
2) Soccer (maybe throw 'English Football' in there..

Good luck ! :)

Hi, unfortunately its not that simple - I am using like a search engine, and some affiliate programmes refer to it as soccer, but others as football, which means getting it to sort them is a pain.

Hi - use the term American football to represent the non-soccer category.

Hi, unfortunately its not that simple - I am using like a search engine, and some affiliate programmes refer to it as soccer, but others as football, which means getting it to sort them is a pain.

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How can I easily differentiate between footballsoccer?

How can I easily differentiate between footballsoccer?

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So in my store I offer equipment for a variety of sports, including football (soccer) and american football. In my store I display one as american football and the other as foo

Hi, I think maybe stick the universaly known terms:-
1) American Football
2) Soccer (maybe throw 'English Football' in there..

Good luck ! :)

Hi, unfortunately its not that simple - I am using like a search engine, and some affiliate programmes refer to it as soccer, but others as football, which means getting it to sort them is a pain.

Hi - use the term American football to represent the non-soccer category.

Hi, unfortunately its not that simple - I am using like a search engine, and some affiliate programmes refer to it as soccer, but others as football, which means getting it to sort them is a pain.

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I am wondering if it possible to have it so that instead of people clicking links from my website to go to another website, if it is possible to have people buy products WITHIN

Yes. You will need to do an ecommerce course. I believe 'Glenb' is working on one. Jim

Is it possible to sell affiliate products within my store?

Is it possible to sell affiliate products within my store?

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I am wondering if it possible to have it so that instead of people clicking links from my website to go to another website, if it is possible to have people buy products WITHIN

Yes. You will need to do an ecommerce course. I believe 'Glenb' is working on one. Jim

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