Any super affiliates or more experienced members, I need your help!

Is it normal that I got 33 Free Starter referrals but only 1 convert to Premium, is that normal?

Here's the stats and what I've done:

In January, I had a total of 14 new referrals and only 1 convert to Premium.
In February so far, I have a total of 19 referrals but no one upgraded to Premium.

I followed the training here in WA. I write quality contents targeting low-hanging fruit keywords and I get most of my traffic from organic SEO. This month so far I have about 1K organic traffic.

Apart from the traffic part, I've also set up all the WA welcome and follow-up messages. I make sure I reply to all my referrals Goal settings, Profile setup, questions, etc.

So I did follow up with my referrals but most of them didn't even set up their profile. Some set up their profile but never heard from them afterwards despite all my follow-up messages.

I'll still continue working on my site and producing quality content because I'm pumped for Vegas 2019!

But this little issue troubled me somehow... I'm always wondering why there are so many people sign up but couldn't connect with them no matter how :(

Any tips?


Update: I now have over 50 Premium referrals. In April alone, I had 27 Premium upgrades out of 206 Free Starter referrals.

Within 2 months’ time, I was able to get from ZERO Premium referrals to 50. That’s a truly amazing achievement.

That’s why I’ve created a training called “WA Bootcamp Hacks: How to Get More PREMIUM Referrals?” to share my strategies.

Check it out here:

https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/training/wa-bootcamp-hacks-how-to-get-more-premium-referrals

Enjoy the training :)

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BenjisDad Premium Featured Comment
I've had to go through the same thing bro. It's a numbers game. For the longest I thought I was doing something wrong too. But I've found that you need to have at least 4-5 a day before getting real consistent numbers.

I have a strategy that worked out a little bit as well.

The problem is that it is a free membership and we promote it as such. So just anyone will sign up and not feel obligated to continue.

What I did was I made it "harder" to sign up. It may sound counterintuitive, but by making it harder the ones that actually go through with it seems to be more quality traffic. So I get less referrals, but higher percentage of premium signups.

"Making it harder" could be as simple as requiring an email address before giving away the free membership link. Or maybe only including 1 or 2 calls to action on your review (rather than spraying the link everywhere) The only people that will find it are those truly interested and reading your stuff. You almost want people to unknowingly "earn" the referral link so they have a stake in the matter as well.

So with that said, DO NOT JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. (I don't want you blaming me later if it doesn't work, lol) BUT you have to test, test, and test again. I know your a thrive guy, so start using thrive optimize and gather some data. The affiliate marketing niche is tough and competitive, but insanely lucrative and evergreen.

I would build a new money page with fewer links AND/OR a way to have the reader "earn" the free link. Use two different referral tracking links and over time see which one does better.

1k in traffic is enough to test , but getting good enough numbers to make good decisions will take a bit. If you blitz the blogging to increase your traffic you will be able to get more data faster.

doing this increased my conversion rates for completed profiles jump from about 27% (about 3 in 10) to almost 70% (7 in 10). I do get fewer referrals, but more quality referals.
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RogerHumbke Premium
Thanks for telling it like it is! At least now I know what I am up against.
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JerryHuang Premium
Thanks Chris, this does make sense. But it's all about testing like you've said. Thanks for sharing this. Appreciate a lot :)
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BenjisDad Premium
Online marketing is all about split testing.

You need decent traffic to split test, but the sooner you implement, the faster you willmake money .
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BrianCh Premium
Hi Chris, that sounds like good advice. I am definitely going to rethink the way I have littered my site content with links. I have to make it like a treasure hunt and only those who really want to go for gold will find it.

Thanks and regards,

Brian
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JerryHuang Premium
Agree!
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MrKent Premium
Hello Jerry, I came here from your latest post "WA Bootcamp Hacks." I am about where you're at when you made this blog post, I have 46 referrals and no premiums. The thing is I got all those referrals from social media, do you think that's bad?

I also have over 60 posts now and only getting 27 organic visitors last month, and only 4 so far this month! Although I haven't consistently published until 2 months ago. How do you get 1k organic visitors and I only have 27?

My average word count per post is around 1200-1700 and I have pictures, meta titles, internal links, good keywords, and things don't seem to be moving. Can you have a quick glance at my website?
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JerryHuang Premium
Hey Kent, a referral is a referral no matter where it came from.

I understand the struggle you’re facing right now. I would suggest you finish reading my WA Bootcamp Hacks training first, then come back to me.

Because I’ve covered most of the common problems within the training. After going through the training if you still have questions, shoot me a PM and I’ll be more than willing to help you :)
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LouisaB Premium
I think that's a plus! You have to get many referrals to get one premium. I guess you cam say, it's just liking following 40,000 and only get 6,000 followers. Lol...
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JerryHuang Premium
LOL
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LouisaB Premium
Jerry, I know the feeling.
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gjshawk Premium
You’re way ahead of me Jerry. I’m still waiting to get any referrals. I know they’ll come. But I’m impatient.
Grant
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JerryHuang Premium
All the best Grant!
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Miren Premium
Hey Jerry,

I feel you. A similar thing happened to me last month. I only had a 4.5% conversion rate (according to the statistics, a normal conversion rate would be 12%).
But it's still better than some months ago that I didn't get any referrals, or sometimes my affiliate link got like 100 unique clicks but no one joined, so I believe it's a matter of time and testing.

I believe it's going to get better month after month.

Best wishes =)
Miren
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JerryHuang Premium
Thanks for sharing Miren! All the best :)
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bigrog44 Premium
It's hard to get people to go premium because they want to things for free. I have 5 referrals and no premiums. I've doing this for a little over 2 years.
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JerryHuang Premium
I see. Wish you all the best Roger!
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bigrog44 Premium
Thanks, Jerry.
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DianneBee Premium
I've been on the same page....
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bigrog44 Premium
I will be committing myself to this business.
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GomMagtibay Premium
You're way ahead of me with that one. So, don't worry. That's okay.
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JerryHuang Premium
Haha, wish you all the best Gomer!
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sheikave Premium
This is the hard truth. There is nothing wrong about that. Every sale person will reveal to you. For every 100 deals, 10 to 25 deals are closed the rest quits.

There is the logic.

Out of 100 people, 10 to 12 will go premium.

Out of 1000 people, 100 to 120 will go premium.

Out of 10,000 people, 1000 to 1200 will go premium.

It is simple but you have to up your game once you mastered selling you will become a beast sales machine.

Also, remember to improve so that you can close more deals.
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JerryHuang Premium
Thanks for that. I do keep educating and upgrading my knowledge and skills :)
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JaRoDavis Premium
Hey Jerry, very normal in the beginning.

Everything is numbers game even if you're selling soap door to door. Talk to 50 people, 3 people buy... Over time you get better at your presentation and pre-qualifying people you improve to 5/50... 15/50, etc..

Every tweak, split test and improvement helps the numbers. It's just a matter of tweaking sales copy, emails, blog posts, etc. Just what I do.

Hope this helps

-Jaron
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JerryHuang Premium
Those are great advice. Thank you Jaron!
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JaRoDavis Premium
My pleasure Jerry!
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Nick-at-WA Premium
A few months back I had more than one hundred referrals and not ONE conversion. Part of the game I guess.
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JerryHuang Premium
I see. I wish you all the best Nick!
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Nick-at-WA Premium
Thanks Jerry, good luck to you too!
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BenjisDad Premium
i had a span from late october to mid dcember, 100+ referrals, not one sign up. The joys of entrepreneurship i guess... but i have made a few tweaks to my funnel and have been doing a little better.
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neilc Premium
Before my last bootcamp site went pear-shaped, my conversions were pretty good during 2016/2017.

For example, I created a custom-WA signup page (that Kyle shows us to do in a training video) - that produced 127 referrals, 17 sales (13% conversion rate) and 42% account set up.

There could be a number of reasons why your conversions are low, but my biggest success has come from a custom WA signup page :)
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JerryHuang Premium
I see. I'm using custom sign up page as well. By the way, what's happened to your site?
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neilc Premium
I kinda got obsessed with improving the speed of my site.

I kept deleting stuff on my site (mainly images in media) and it lead to numerous 404 errors.

In addition, I installed AMP which I reckon also had a negative impact on rankings due to 404 errors.

When the site reached 220+ posts (mainly reviews) and 3,000+ comments, I decided to call it quits because many page-1 rankings were slipping to page 2 and the traffic just would not exceed 100 visitors per day lol.

But with the new bootcamp site, things are looking up with a number of reviews on page 2 after 4 months of graft.
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JerryHuang Premium
I see. Wish you all the best with your new site. Is it the ZeroToAffiliateHero?
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neilc Premium
Cheers, Jerry! You too! Yeah that's right :)
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feigner Premium
as Chris says prequalify your audience.yes your numbers coming thorugh will be down, but your conversion rate should be up.
If it isn't you know you are getting the wrong audience through!
do you have a persona who you are talking to when writing? then prequalify what they want, use a survey to get more info and feedback. freeloaders will bomb interested will go through.
Good hunting
Phil
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JerryHuang Premium
Thanks Phil, that's a good conclusion from what Chris has said :)
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TDomena Premium
Thanks for asking. I just had my second referral and I've been wondering the same thing.
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JerryHuang Premium
A lot of members have said it is normal. Just keep learning and taking actions :)
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TDomena Premium
Thanks I sure will!
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MKearns Premium
Kyle says you have to work your butt off. That isn't going to change!
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JerryHuang Premium
Haha, I know! #hustling
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jberard051 Premium
Your numbers sound about average. You seem like your almost there as far as making "serious" money goes, the next 6 months or so are going to be very important for you.
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JerryHuang Premium
I see. Thanks a lot Jeff!
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a1jonuk Premium
I think you are doing everything right, from past experience 3% is not far from the norm, some get more and some less.
Keep doing what you are doing, dedication and consistency will get this figure up for you.

Andrew.
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JerryHuang Premium
Awesome! I agree with you. Thanks :)
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Loes Premium
Same here Jerry, 24 signups since the Swag, no premium (Yet) But to get to the average conversion, I expect a couple of premium in a row very soon;)
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JerryHuang Premium
I see. I wish you all the best! Thanks for sharing :)
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Loes Premium
Thank you, people are recovering from the expenses from the Christmas days:)
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JerryHuang Premium
Haha XD
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rufat Premium
This is normal. Sometimes you get more conversions and sometimes less. Since December my conversions have dropped from 9% to 5%. This is how it works. I don't think we can do anything with that.
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JerryHuang Premium
I see. Thanks for sharing Rufat! Appreciate it :)
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Fleeky Premium
Being a solopreneur is hardship
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JerryHuang Premium
Lol
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Fleeky Premium
;-))))
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