In one of the online companies I've joined, there's this feature for new members where they are asked to join the company's FB group after signing up.

Of course, to respect privacy or preference of the person joining, joining the group is optional, but highly encouraged.

In the group, the new members can click the join button, or have us referring members add them to the group and wait for the admin (either Kyle or Carson) to confirm they really have joined WA. Upon confirmation, the admin will approve the request to join group.

Then, we members can post our welcome message, for the new member. Or, once accepted, the new members can introduce themselves.

Also, the group can post inspiring updates about their businesses, that will encourage the newly joined members to set up their accounts and become more involved with Wealthy Affiliate.

I think, that would improve conversion rate.

Of course, Wealthy Affiliate have worked really hard to come up with a new premium conversion sales page, but this suggestion, I think this can help shoot up activation even more.

What do you think, guys?

Hi Kyle, we love you. (What do you think?)

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ericcantu Premium
To be honest, everything you described is already available here. We welcome our referrals, we have forum after forum where they can ask questions and interact, and we already have the comment and feedback forums to advertise our links.

The best thing about WA is it keeps things simple. “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” applies here :) Feel free to create your own group, but I think you’ll see over time it would just be redundant.
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iJared Premium
Yes! I do agree!
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GomMagtibay Premium
Then at least they should loosen the tight policy on private messaging, which the Starter Members are not allowed to access. We can't contact them, they can't contact us. We can only get in touch with them only through the scheduled messages posted in their profiles. But what does a scheduled message serve when it is not seen by the new member? Perhaps, only the people who have referred here via their email list are the ones going to stick, because they were communicating via email even before the new member join WA. But, how many of us here are doing listing building? What about the beginners who are not yet into list building? How will they communicate or connect with their Starter Members?

See attached image.
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ericcantu Premium
The lines of communication are wide open. We can contact them. They can contact us. This is the point you’re missing :) I communicate with my starter member referrals all the time, and you’re right, it absolutely helps with conversion :) Open up those lines of communication to your referrals and improve your conversions! :)
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GomMagtibay Premium
I think, the only ones who can understand what I think, feel, and suggesting about improving conversion.. are only those members doing Affiliate Bootcamp and are getting referrals like these... (attached screenshot)

When referrals are barred from using communication systems because they are just "free members", and we referring members are also limited in how we can CONNECT with them to just autoposting scheduled messages to their profiles, then our only hope these new referrals get active is through prayer, "Oh God please.. wake them up".

Those who doesn't care about WA Bootcamp will surely brush aside this suggestion as irrelevant or nonsense, because, they simply do not care. :(
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iJared Premium
I think we all care.

There are 1 million choices million ways to bridge communications.

There also reasons you have to pay to use the resources here.

There are reasons Kyle and Carson have made wealthy affiliates what is today.

The same way you trust their wisdom for being here you have to trust their wisdom for why we don’t have the certain things happening.

I don’t have the exact tactical reason to give you in words I guess sometimes in life you have to read between the lines and pick your battles and make choices.

Continue to find innovative ways to promote wealthy affiliates such is the ways you have on Twitter, keep working with the methods we have we already know those work.

I don’t think you want to say nobody else out here cares, or doesn’t understand you. we’re all part of the community.
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GomMagtibay Premium
ARe you doing AFfiliate Bootcamp? How are doing, man? Can you attach here a screenshot of your list of referrals?
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iJared Premium
Good for you calling my bluff I like that.

I think I have one referral barely hanging on.

I’ve been here for over three years and I continue to pay and I continue to show up and I continue to move up in rank finally .

My concentrated effort will be on creating content, genuine content on why believe in this place and then start to drive traffic here.

I guess your question and my answer what I’m trying to say to you we need to concentrate on our own individual product projects wealthy affiliate is Kyle and Carson‘s project it’s a school and we don’t need a close group to promote it we all just need to keep going .

So yeah thanks for the reminder that I just need to worry about promotion year and I am not trying argue with you or be right.

It’s all about collaboration and perspective and direction at the end of the day.
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GomMagtibay Premium
For that, then I will just put making money with WA Affiliate Bootcamp as second priority only, not the first.

I'm sorry. I am just getting frustrated as I see something like a loophole in the WA sales funnel, and I am trying my best to bring that out but sad to say, taken in a wrong perspective by fellow members.

Site hosting is great, that's all I can say. I will continue host sites here for other online money making programs.

Good luck to you guys! Wish you all success with WA Affiliate Bootcamp. (I hope you don't bump into the same hump I got into)
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ericcantu Premium
Don’t change your priorities here. Change how you communicate with your referrals :) When I joined in January i started with the Affiliate Bootcamp and never looked back. It’s a spectacular affiliate program with the best commissions I’ve seen. It’s the whole reason I’ve had success. I get questions all the time from my starter member referrals that I answer and those lines of communication are a huge resource that we have here at WA :) Keep with it and you’ll find your way, brother!
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WilliamBH Premium
Hi Gomer ... my thinking is that there is no need for a FB group when WA has all the facilities of Live Chat, Blogs, Ask Question, Profile Comments, Instant Messaging. If there was an overriding reason to have a more interactive "welcoming system" (which, I personally think there is not) then it is best inside WA not in a FB Group.

Having said that, it is up to Kyle and Carson :)

Cheers, William.
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GomMagtibay Premium
I respect your opinion. But there is a vast majority out there which are on Facebook! And if they check the business isn't active on Facebook they treat it with a "frown".

I believe, with Wealthy Affiliate becoming more active on Facebook like other companies are doing, we will no longer neglect that part of the world which we're missing.
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WilliamBH Premium
My thinking is not aligned with yours .. no more to say :) Cheers, William.
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Henry-II Premium
Hi, Gomer! I believe Kyle will read your suggestion here.

This is not what you are asking, but talking about Facebook, here is Kyle’s facebook account were he promotes Wealthy Affiliate. I’m quite sure you have already visited this Facebook account. But, just in case you have not, or there are other members reading this question that have not, here it is: https://www.facebook.com/kyle.wealthyaffiliate

Again, this is just a comment related to your question, but not an answer.

All the best Gomer. Cool!
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iJared Premium
Obviously there is only one person to answer.
This is like a private school here.
This is like a country club here.

It is exclusive.

Without getting into majors, I think we use social media to draw attention to our own works.

I could be completely wrong too. Maybe it’s something in the works...
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GomMagtibay Premium
What I mean is, a "closed group" where only members of Wealthy Affiliate can access and see the posts. Just like other companies out there. I noticed, it seems we're the only company not doing it.
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iJared Premium
Are we a company?

Our rank has nothing to do with pay.
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GomMagtibay Premium
Well, what I am saying here has nothing to do with rank, or us being paid like employees.

What I am suggesting is, a better way to follow up with referrals. Do you get it?

Just go out there and you will see other companies dealing with affiliate marketing like Russell Brunson's company connecting with affiliates via FB closed group. Also, Elite Marketing Pro.. they connect with their affiliates via a FB closed group. I can name others, but it will be quite a long list of affiliate marketing companies connecting with their members via Facebook.

What I am pointing out here is, these people in this list (screenshot attached) may be very active in Facebook. If we can have a way in here where we and Wealthy Affiliate can connect with these people more, then probably the outcome will be better, and not just this list of inactive referrals who seem to be not returning here because they are not being followed up.

At least, if we can have a way to follow up with them aside from welcoming them in their profile, like for example, a welcome message in a platform (like Facebook) where they actively roam daily, then the outcome will be different.
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iJared Premium
Facebook is a dangerous place.

I drop my link all over Facebook in the for affiliate marketing groups of people that look more to be getting rich quick overnight then they do actually investing themselves with time and money.

We’re taught here how to independently and as individuals promote our own personal niche.

Boot Camp being one of them. Even bootcamp though teaches you how to promote wealthy affiliates for people to learn for people to pay to learn in the long run.

I’m trying to say as I see it you’re mixing apples and oranges and there’s no way to actually capitalize fairly on what you’re suggesting who would get to the Messages who would take care of all that stuff and who would benefit from referral links.

As usual it’s interesting perspective and I’m curious to see what other opinions are maybe I don’t see this the way you do like you say.
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GomMagtibay Premium
What I am suggesting is a "closed group" where admins like Kyle or Carson is the one in control.

If it is dangerous, why is it other major affiliate marketing companies are using it?

Why is it Russell Brunson using it?

Why is it Elite Marketing Pro using it?

And why is it MLSP having a closed group for welcoming members aside from their own community website?

Why other big affiliate marketing companies having a closed FB group?

Are you familiar with the feature "closed group" being used by companies?

A closed FB group is different from a spam group. Maybe what you are referring to is a "spam group". It's not the one I want.

A closed FB group is way different from a FB spam group.
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iJared Premium
I don’t think you are
Looking at the greater Picture here.

It would be a complete waste of time to try to moderate such a thing.

No matter how rude that may seem. Kyle and Carson spend time leading by example and teaching us here.

The price we pay is part of that, to access and utilize proven methods

Their time is more valuable then welcoming people all day long that may or may not be serious.

Our job is to promote.

As I said, I could be wrong as well.

Our time is better vested in promotion so people serious, learn to follow through.

It’s a numbers game, the referrals that get it, will stay even if the whole community doesn’t
Welcome them in Facebook.
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GomMagtibay Premium
Then, good luck. I hope you do great with conversion in Affiliate Bootcamp and not experience what we're experiencing.
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iJared Premium
Can you explain what you’re experiencing your post doesn’t actually explain what you’re experiencing you’re suggesting greeting every single person that has a question or a quick sign up and at the end of the day not everybody’s going to get it here.

Maybe there’s an alternative way to figuring out what you’re experiencing just need to understand a little bit more.
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GomMagtibay Premium
What I am suggesting is a way to greet members in a closed FB group so we can connect with them more. That's the point in all of these. And sadly, you all did not get it. :(

Try join these companies and you'll see what I am suggesting here: (just take a peek to see how are they're doing things)

1. MSLP
2. Elite Marketing Pro
3. The companies of Russell Brunson
4. The Super Affiliate Network (SAN)
5. Power Lead System

...sad to say, they are all great at conversion, way higher than ours here. (Sorry)

That's why I took the initiative to suggest this here.
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iJared Premium
I do get it I don’t think you realize you’re setting yourself up for failure .

There’s not enough hours in the day to address the possible onslaught of questions and comments and remarks you would get.

Actually that’s not realistic to say.

I personally don’t believe it’s possible to do it do it successfully and do it consistently.

You could yourself start your own closed. I’m actually getting ready to do a couple pages that are quite similar to this if you want to talk about it. I’ll be a member I’m curious of the results I’m just trying to tell you I completely understand why Kyle and Carson don’t do it.

People talk a lot about making money online people talk a lot about doing things. There are filters, there are restrictions there are policies in life just like having to pay to be here, eventually the free ride the free advice is left behind for the people who are serious about taking it forward.
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GomMagtibay Premium
Maybe the members of these companies know what I am talking about.

Where are you guys? Help please...
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iJared Premium
We are all individual companies here I don’t think you can have a close group that welcomes all members if you really think about that.
I’m trying to understand your perspective but it really is apples and oranges, we’re all here to be independent so having a closed group welcoming members, whose members?

Who is nurturing and who’s time is spent convincing them to sign up?

How does it play for all the members together closed group or not?

I do understand what you’re saying I really do but it all boils down to we are all here as individual companies working for ourselves, and we’re here to teach each other how to do that.
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GomMagtibay Premium
I think you misinterpret my point. In setting up a Facebook closed group, the admins are not the ones to welcome every member that gets in. There are admins and there are moderators. The referring members are the ones to welcome their new members mentioning their names (therefore getting the attention of the new member via a tag).
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iJared Premium
We do that here I believe. We are encouraged to do that.

I think we are both misinterpreting each other here.

Let me explain it this way.

I have heard a theory, Facebook wants to incorporate world search, so you search the “internet” when you search “inside YOUR Facebook” you stay “inside Facebook”

This makes sense to me because Facebook wants you to hang out all day “inside” Facebook.

If they make the search happen, most people will not even realize this is happening, but they won’t leave Facebook.

I think we are supposed to do what you are suggesting here.

Like “inside WA”

Welcome your referrals here when they get here and engage them here.

Make WA Where we spend our time.

Facebook is an Option in the funnel. How much time spent and why is critical.

I maybe setting myself up for a huge awakening in expressing my views and understanding but I can only benefit in that, I get to make sure I understand what I’m learning myself.
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iJared Premium
Those companies all run paid for ads

Sponsored.

I have never seen a paid ad from Kyle or Carson

We are different here.

There is wisdom in the other comments. Keep it Simple.

I’m even losing site of that a little here.
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Edi67 Premium
I think you are misunderstanding here Coach, this is Kyle and Carson's business, you are an outsider and if they concentrate on putting up a facebook page, how do you expect to earn commission here when people can join directly from facebook? That idea will not favor you or us all here. They don't want to compete with us. Many blessings
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GomMagtibay Premium
No, you are the one misinterpreting here. (Sorry)

Close Facebook groups are only for verified new members of Wealthy Affiliate. After a person joined WA, they got to click a link to the closed Facebook Group and click join. And when they are verified they have joined WA, their application is accepted/approved.

But I respect WA's position with this. Maybe I should not persist with this idea and just make money in my own sites doing other things.

People here don't get the point.
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Cannuck Premium
The potential to be swallowed by a behemoth such as FB is likely the reason this method hasn't already been deployed. I have seen other forums choose this route and lose visitors, becoming virtual ghost towns. Why? Because people inevitably take the path of least resistance. Easy isn't always the best policy, as those who are committed to WA surely understand. Sites that I have built and rank well often get outranked by FB for no other reason than critical mass. This phenomenon actually defeats the purpose of our individuality and feeds the collective. Better to have gravity attract and channel efforts within one's own ranks.
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iJared Premium
I can’t resist, I have to suggest you should try to join some of the affiliate marketing page is that already exist on Facebook and you will realize just how many people out there are not serious.

The time alone that would be wasted in trying to even verify new members.

If you truly have this many referrals that’s awesome just keep doing what you’re doing you get the sign-ups that are serious.
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GomMagtibay Premium
Such an encouraging words. I just hope the premium ones come sooner and are not on the 500th or 1,000th referrals here. (lol)
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MsMoneyHoney Premium
Why these others are using Fb is because they haven't built anything like WA - that's why. If you, personally, want your own Fb group, that's fine. But, to have it be called an official WA Fb group, I disagree... and have already written my opinion somewhere above... The whole point of WA - ingrained into WA - is the ability to communicate knowledge, education, experience, success, inspiration, and encouragement with ALL members. We don't need Fb.

After reading some of the comments and your responses here, it seems to me that, perhaps, you are attracting the wrong type of attitudes/people... Perhaps? It almost as though you think that by constantly communicating with people that they will convert simply because you keep communicating... I do not think that is the case. You cannot keep badgering someone to join. They have to "want it" themselves. That's another value of WA. The owners here recognize that this is a long process. This is not a "get-rich-quick" scheme or anything of that type. This is a long-term educational process where members actually make a commitment to themselves that they want to learn, will ask questions, actually put in some serious time to read, research, and work at their sites and make their dream a reality.

As for Brunson and all the others, hey, more power to them. And, if you want to add these opportunities to your arsenal, more power to you too! That is actually recommended by many members here - multiple streams of income! That's part of the experience and knowledge gained here at WA.
~MMH
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