WordPress Gutenberg Announced for 27 November 2018!

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Dear fans and readers,

Latest update from the WordPress front about Gutenberg. It is announced to come out on the 27th of November this year.

What is your opinion on Gutenberg? I think it is sluggish and slower in use, since when is it useful to do extra mouse clicks on actions to perform? That means loss in time for us the designers and developers, bloggers out there.

Gutenberg is based on mobile use, but how many out there of you use a mobile for website design and blogging? I for that part am using a local pc or my laptop, but a mobile device, no thanks.

For surfing that is ok, but to do work on my website that is out of the question.

I believe WordPress is shooting themselves in their foot, if it will not offer to choose what you want to use. My theme has its own builder on board and that is all I need, simple fast and easy in use.

And what do you think? Leave your answers below.


Stefan, ToLiNoLi

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leoemery Premium Top 100 about 4 hours ago
Not the best program update, find it slow and clunky, and some basic functions are not available in the core.

I use Thrive Architect. Blows away Gutenburg, so no big deal for me about the update - plus I'm going to keep the classic editor in play and not have Gutenburg active.

Also it nice to know that Matt Mullenweg has confirmed that support for the Classic Editor will be available for a very, very long time. Good news for people not ready to use Gutengurg or don't use an alternative editor such as Thrive.

Here's what he said:

“I love that people are using the Classic Editor plugin!” Mullenweg said in comment on a recent post. “There is an infinite number of ways that WP can be used and not all will be ready for Gutenberg when 5.0 is released, Classic allows people to still be able to update core and stay current with releases, and with the click of a button try out Gutenberg again in the future if they want to. It’s also trivial to maintain because Gutenberg also uses TinyMCE, so Classic Editor users will still get improvements and updates to TinyMCE — I won’t say ‘forever’ but I don’t see any reason why we can’t maintain classic for the edit screen for many years to come.”

https://wordpress.tv/2017/12/04/matt-mullenweg-state-of-the-word-2017/

Here's another great read about Gutenburg and here they talk about the possibility of supporting both editors.

https://wptavern.com/wordpress-to-support-classic-editor-for-many-years-to-come-plugin-and-theme-markets-expected-to-drive-gutenberg-adoption

I believe the market will drive the product direction, but we have to wait and see.

Hi Leo,

Thank you for your thorough reply with the useful links. I completely agree with what you say, my theme blows Gutenberg away as well.

Concerning the classic editor, it is another plugin to add and it will have to show it is not causing issues with other plugins and your main theme.

Anyway I believe anyone with a premium theme (paid), will surely not wanting to have Gutenberg installed.

Did you hear about that WordPress actually brings Gutenberg to target the mobile market to make money?

As long it will not crack up WordPress as it is now, for what it was designed and used, it may just work out over time for both sides of the users.

No I did not hear that it targeted Mobile, if this is their attempt to use it for that, it's a pretty weak attempt.

Hey Stefan,
I create my website on a laptop but then write content and blogs on a Mobil. Haven't tried Gutenberg yet and from what you said not sure I want to.

Tried and True

Elaine

Hi Elaine,

It may work for you if you decide to do everything with mobile, I suggest you take a test website and try it out once it comes out as the current beta has issues.

Cheers.
Stefan :))

Thanks for the warning. The use of my website is designed for a desktop computer, and I use three screens when I'm building the site and writing content. Mobile units don't even enter into the conversation, although I restructured my website to be mobile friendly, but only to look at - not the use.

Marion Black analyzed this topic pretty well. She recommends installing the Classic Editor, which will work even with Gutenberg installed. Someone also mentioned that Gutenberg has a Classic option that allows you to use the old editor. We'll have to see what happens.

But, if WordPress 5.0 is slower to use and loads you up with stuff use really don't need, there will be an exodus. I hope it all resolves itself. Ted

Installing the classic editor, you mean another plugin? Fantastic is it not the idea to minimize plugins, well we can add it if the plugin is clean and fast and works flawlessly with other plugins and your theme or you will face trouble with that.

From what I heard, WordPress can make money with this as it is an editor that was designed to be used with mobile devices. So WordPress needs money?

I think it is a great thing what they tried to do, but the interface is sluggish and you need to perform click to do certain actions, and that is just stupido and not helping the users on desktop devices, it will take us more time to design and write content with this concept and that is why I do not like Gutenberg.

You're right. From what I've heard in our discussions, Gutenberg isn't productive and only has a specific application. Apparently, there's a button you can click to switch between Gutenberg and the regular editor, which will help us traditionalists. Leo mentioned that he uses the editor built into his premium theme, which is another option.

Thanks for the article. I'll be waiting to see what happens and then adjust to whatever it is. For any new websites, I'll be looking at premium themes. Ted

Marion Black says that you have the option to select the original, or "Classic" version of the editor. Check out her many posts and trainings on Gutenberg--she is very familiar.

I would recommend everyone give it a try and see for yourselves how good or bad it is for you.

I am with you, Stefan, on not using my cell for this type of work--I have a laptop and desktop, and those keyboards are much easier to use...but some might not have that advantage, and have to work strictly from a mobile.

Best wishes,

Joe

You need to click extra, 1 click extra to do things, that doesn't make sense, and why now?

WordPress could thought of that long time ago, today's premium themes come with their own builders, all based to be used on your normal pc or laptop, unintuitive and easy in use.

No need for Gutenberg... if WordPress forces it's users to accept Gutenberg earlier or later, mark my words, it will be the end of them as many developers will switch to another platform, and thus also will do the normal users....

There is only a small amount of users from the mobile area who have not that choice, so for that minority we have to suffer?

Thanks for the info on Gutenberg Stefan, I find this rather depressing. I have not even started learning Gutenberg yet, and assumed it would be easier to use.

If this is the case and 11/27 is the date, I will stick with my own theme editor. Don't wan't to waste time learning something I will rarely use,although I might be forced to.

You are welcome Kaju,

The idea is not bad, but why, why does WordPress has to build an editor based for mobile users? smh.... yes you can compete with other products, but what about us, the core users of WordPress?

On long term it will damage WordPress, developers work on laptops and computers with big screens, surely not on mobile...

Time will tell how bad it is gonna be....

Thanks for this,Stefan.
I agree with you that working on a website or blog is not really appropriate on a mobile device, even a tablet is a bit cumbersome and, like you and many others, I prefer to use my laptop for this work.
I did see somewhere in earlier posts on Gutenberg that it would still be possible to use the existing Wordpress platform; has this option now been abandoned?

Terry

Hi Terry,

I heard as well that a choice will come, but the question is, will that be on the 27th or later and who is gonna take that risk? I am not interested to mess up my theme because of this nonsense builder update from WordPress.

Is everyone compelled to make the switch? This doesn't sound good. I seriously don't have the time to start learning new stuff.

Life is a learning experience, so you learn even if you think you are not, isn't that cool? ;-)

Gutenberg is a different editor for building your blog posts on your website, my theme has it's own editor, by far better as the Gutenberg one.

We will need to see where it leads to.

During the BF days, handy! I hope it will not effect my websites negatively

BF days? Boy Friend? :P

Exactly Loes, see all those faces of people who just update and then bham chaos on your website....

That would be bad!

Never touch / change a running system.

I suggest we test it first on another website before taking that step just to update.... Don't want to ruin our BF due to a WordPress update, won't we Loes?

2 of my websites do auto updates, luckily those are niche websites

Turn it off till you know it is safe, no? Or are you using your niche sites for testing?

I don´t know how to turn it of

I can't comment on it right now, but thanks for the update, Stefan.

Looking forward to hear your opinion Nick.

Interesting comments. Don't know enough yet but i am entering this conversation as i want to see your results of this query! thanks for getting it rolling - Marc

Exactly, this is hot and an important topic, just because it is coming out doesn't mean it is good. Nothing against innovation but WordPress is not doing all those long term pro developers a favor with that update....

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