I would like to know what the average person earns in their first year here at WA. I am not asking because I am going to use that as a personal goal or anything. I am asking because I want to know what a realistic expectation is for everyone here at WA. I strongly believe that many members here at WA would love to know the answer to this question also, but do not want to make other people uncomfortable answering this question. Also, people need to be aware that the "average" income is just that, "average", you can choose to be below average, average or like me, way above average. I feel that it is not fair for people to have unrealistic expectations, as this obviously changes their entire life as they work very hard to become successful at this new career opportunity. I guess what I am trying to say is that since I had learned my lesson years ago working for a "pyramid" company, they made you think that everyone at the top levels were all making millions, when in reality, they were averaging only about $50k per year. In other words, their motto was "fake it till you make it" not inside of the company but to others watching you in the company so they would feel like you must be doing well because of the way you "fake it till you make it".

All I am asking is for some of the new and more seasoned members here to give some examples of how you made your first $1.00 or your first million dollars. Provide examples of when you made a change to your overall action plan how it effected your income (and provide the actual income amounts or lost amounts). There is absolutely no reason to be embarrassed if you have been a Premium Member here at WA for 10 years and still have not earned even $1.00. This means that you are still in the learning process, or you are not here to make money, you are here only to teach other people. Or it is your passion to create websites or blogs and making money is not what your goal is. But if your goal is to make money and you have done so, there is nothing better to serve as the best motivation to others than to hear and see others success stories. So far, I have been here for a few months and not even one time have I read ANYTHING at all that had a "dollar figure" someone has made. When this happens, WA will lose it's members because they do not have any proof to go by. Just a reminder, we are not talking about God and having faith. This is something obviously much different. I have been very blessed and educated on how to know if this is a solid career or not without having to SEE or HEAR about other peoples actual income, but I bet that 90% or higher of the people here at WA are extremely interested in knowing how much some of us members are making annually, monthly, daily, etc. on average. So why not give it to them and let them use it the way they want to use it. By hiding this information, I believe it makes members weary or not so sure if this will make money or not for them and that is was prevents them from giving it all they have to make it succeed.

Just my personal thoughts. I hope this helps as many people as possible and helps grow WA to heights never expected!!!

Your very good friend,
Kevin :-)
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Daniel62017 Premium
Everyone's income varies so it would be inaccurate to place an exact amount for each WA Member. There's no doubt if you put in the time & effort required you will earn income. I'm a true testament that WA does work. With patience, time & effort... You're hard work will pay off!:)
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I am prepared to put in all the time and effort required, even if it takes months, but in the end I need to know I will be making money. WA seems like a really supportive community and the education excellent, but its seems something might be missing if we cant get anyone to share their actual success.
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jonelles Premium
Everything is relative, and I believe most people understand the more effort you put into your sites and learning the more benefit you are going to receive.

I think the question really lies in what is realistic. No one is stating something like, in my first three months I made $xx, or I was here for 6 months and 3 websites later I figured it out and made $xx after 2 months with my third site.

This is a great supportive group, and the lessons are very easy to follow. I have learned more in the past few days than I ever expected.

I think asking income is not a wrong question to want an answer. When I begin to sort through everything I will disclose my earnings, as well as, the time I put into it.

I started an initial site, because it is generating off of an existing blog I already run. I quickly realized that was good, but probably not the greatest niche. I have a second site I am ready to start working on after I finish my first, and then I plan on having a third. But, I am also dedicating myself to this full time. And because I already have a fully functional blog outside of WA, for one of my sites, all I have to do is add or adjust some key words.

Clarity in income/time would be nice, as a reference point.

- Jonelle
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LahVirtus Premium
Scrolled through all the the responses @Kevin153, and only one person @dirtbroke answered your direct question. Unfortunate!
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Fashion17 Premium
This was an excellent question. I read through most of the responses. I'm amazed that we can't even get a decent idea of an "average" that people make. They can just add a disclaimer that results vary, just like everyone else does. This isn't rocket science.
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Shellbean85 Premium
Great question. I am one of the many interested in knowing the monetary possibilities here at WA. I am moving along quite slowly due to the fact that I am a full time mom and nurse, but I would not have come across this site if I hadn't been looking for a way to make money and be successful online. I am very interested in moving along with the trainings.
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startswithj Premium
Great article! I see too much, 'you have to put in the effort' responses. Well obviously lol. Not enough specifics out there, so I am glad you wrote this :)
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3SEASONGIFT Premium
Start every person joins WA, hopefully can make extra income and the knowledge to learn how to build a website for internet business,
Even truth like me, don't make any money, but I learn from WA is known how the basis of the internet doing, also got all source on how to do it.
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MasterEd Premium
Like you said - it varies and there are lots of variables. The main variable is what program people are in (WA) or unique Niche etc. Time is another major factor. Most people do not have 5-8 hours a day to work on a part time business.

It's difficult to say - if it helps - I am here 3 months and still haven't finished Boot Camp Training or added enough content to even be considered a statistic yet.

Ed
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djr Premium
I just came upon this and am amazed! Yes, WA is a wonderful, supportive community. Three of my four children are presently in college and may say the same of their present communities. I'm sure that if they had no expectations of employment with decent salaries they would be involved in different wonderful communities other than college. Regardless, I wonder if those of you who are expressing that this topic is out of line would be here if you hadn't been searching for a way to make an income online. It is reasonable to want to have an average income expectation. Yes, there are many variables as there are when pursuing any form of education or profession. I believe that God has given us the ability to make choices and wants us to choose wisely. I do not believe that the universe will give me what I need regardless of what I do or don't do. Bottom line: how many of you would be here if you didn't want to earn money? The topic is very reasonable and should make no one uncomfortable. No one has to disclose what they are making but it would make sense to know averages, i.e., of those who have been here for three months, six months, one year and so on. My situation is such that others are depending on my financial support. There have been many other wonderful communities I have given up because my children are my number one priority. When I am bringing in enough income I will then be able to think of this as a form of recreation. Until then, I will be wondering if I should be working at McDonald's and not spend eight to ten hours a day on the computer. And, once I am making enough with my site, should that day come, I will be happy to share some of that information as a form of encouragement and enlightenment for others. Sorry this was so long. I will stop now.
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Labman Premium
Results differ. Some folks get a good niche, understand the concepts and hit it big in a short time. With others it takes longer. There isn't a way to give an average. Individual results may vary.

Sorry if that is an unsatisfactory answer but that is the reality. What I do may not apply in your case.
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djr Premium
Of course results differ. That is the point of averaging
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Good on you Kevin153. It is absolutely necessary
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Saram Premium
I read this somewhere and I would like to share it on this discussion
Best friends are people who makes your problems their problems, just so you don't have to go through them alone. I think here is the place where I fund my best friends :))
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Saram Premium
A smart question, demand a smart answer, I love this community :)
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giludi Premium
Like Hamlet said "That is THE Question". But as you know WA is also called Wealthy Affiliate University". So, would you ask a student of an unviverity what his avarage income is?
Statistics say that 98% of the people trying to make money online fail!
I don't know how many fail here at WA, even if there are a few percent less than the avarage, there are or have been a lot of members here at WA who failed.
The main two reason why people fail is a lack of patience and perseverence. Perhaps this post of mine gives you some more information of why people fail: http://mybestinternetmarketingtools.com/10-internet-marketing-mistakes-why-so-many-fail/
But coming back to your question.
I have a more than decent income as marketing and communication consultant. I have some internet revenues, certainly not enough to live from. But the experience I gained here at WA gives me so much in my business, that I have a large increse of my income in the last 2 years. So even if not direct through affiliate marketing, this is due to what I've learned here and in other courses.
This example shows you also, that it is difficult to talk about average income stats.
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pjmyers Premium
Hi Kevin.

I agree with you in a lot of respects about disclosure of earnings from the system, however, one of the key indicators I use in deciding whether something is a scam or not is whether the company / opportunity I'm looking at is promising unrealistic income levels. If you have ever watched the "Field of Dreams" movie with Kevin Costner, the faith in 'if you build it they will come' mentality is the key to being successful.

True passion about what you are doing makes money irrelevant. You do something because you believe in it and the universe will give you what you need. If that is an income of 50k or 500k is irrelevant. It is one of the most difficult lessons to learn, having faith in your own ability to create what you need.

I know I still go and check how well I'm doing and look at the zero sales, feel a little disappointed, then keep building. I know it will happen! As one of my mentors early in my life said "Success is 99% perspiration and 1% luck".

All the very best to you in your struggle and know we are all behind you!

That's the WA difference.

This is a good discussion to have because it recognises the 'elephant in the room'!

Phil
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bkcook Premium
Thanks Phil. That is exactly what I needed to hear. I say those things to myself all the time, but it is so nice to hear them from someone else. Of course money would be nice as well.
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pjmyers Premium
I find that the universe always gives me what I need, not always what I want. I agree, some extra money would be nice!
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HowardJaros Premium
Hey Kevin! Here is a recent post on just this discussion from some senior members: http://bit.ly/Z6nojf
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Sui_generis Premium
Perhaps I will overlap what others have said, but that's a very difficult question to answer. As in any job, the first thing you want to know is how much money will I make. You will be given an amount and decide if that's the job for you. However, in any type of sales, it depends on your ability and the amount of work you put in and then sometimes you can still hit a ceiling. WA is something beyond that yet there are many variables. How much time are you willing to spend? What knowledge level do you come in with (some have a lot and earn right away). I've had a learning curve. What is your niche and is it one that people are interested in. Does it deal with high ticket items. Are you active in social media (which is important). The list just goes on.

I understand your concern being a single dad and only you can decide if this is something that is right for you. IMHO, the things you accomplished as a young man says a lot about your ability and ambition and I think the sky could be the limit for you with time and energy.

Sorry, I know that's not the answer you were looking for, but I think the answer to this is somewhat like grabbing jello.
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Rick Jantz Premium
Hi Kevin. I've seen this question come up a number of times. However, most members won't disclose their personal income but may share that they're making a full-time or part-time income (like myself). It's typical in our society (I'm in Canada) that we don't even share how much we make an hour at our jobs

I realize that seeing how much others make from their online work is always encouraging and many of us would like to know; however, I believe that is a personal and private matter and therefore will likely not be shared by many.

One thing I've noted in my 20 months at WA is that we bring with us the believe that success is only counted in dollars. And the scams out there don't help because they always make wild promises of making a lot of money if you invest in their system. And we know that rarely happens. But that's also not something you see at WA because we're building long-term businesses and shouldn't need screen shots of money made (who knows if they're accurate anyways).

I've embarked on a long-term project that I believe is going to allow me to work full-time from home. And the website I'm creating to compliment it is based on what I'm learning here. Will I disclose how much I make from that? No, because, again, that is a personal matter for myself and my family (and I have two kids hitting university so you know I need to be serious about my online work).

Does this answer your question and the comments I see below? Again, no, but I strongly believe that we will get out of our businesses what we put into it. And if working from home full-time is your goal then WA will help with that. But monetary success will be defined differently for each of us based on our needs and circumstances.

I apologize to those who wanted numbers but I haven't even told my wife yet how much I got paid from WA yesterday.
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Roxanne17 Premium
I agree. I was actually wondering the exact same thing. I know it would likely depend on how much traffic each individual's website or sites is generating, but also what are the sites promoting? The money earned by those who are promoting memberships to WA is probably quite different than those who are doing affiliate stuff and then the money that is earned would also vary as to those who are doing both affiliate AND promoting WA. Does that make sense? In other words, maybe the ones who are promoting both WA and doing affiliate work and have a good traffic flow would be earning a much higher income on average than someone who is new to this and will only be doing affiliate stuff and has not yet gotten the rankings on the search engines because of being too new. Right or am I wrong?? Also, I think it's going to vary by how interesting the content is on each individual's website and how much work each person puts into their site. Also, if they have more than one site that is doing well then they will or should be earning alot more than someone with just one site and not great traffic. OMG! The variables are many!! Just my thoughts......
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davyrobot Premium
Hi Roxanne! -

Of course you are right!

There are many variables -- I really can't understand anyone wanting to waste their brain power on this question!

I for one absolutely love everything about WA - and I certainly don't feel comfortable with this discussion.

It is WRONG just to concentrate on money like this.

Ask your questions in private - if you need that kind of information.

I wonder if Kevin - has private messaged Kyle and Carson yet - or any of the really successful people here.
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abbgabb12 Premium
In my view, Kevin is simply bringing up a fair topic of discussion. Not that anyone needs to divulge exact numbers, however, I think it gives hope and motivation to the newcomers to get a sense of how many people are making a full-time or part-time living from WA. Although money is certainly not the be-all and end-all, everybody has bills to pay, so the topic of money is an important issue by default. I didn't get the sense that Kevin is concentrating on the money aspect of WA, just wants it to become a PART of the discussion.
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startswithj Premium
I agree, and am surprised by some responses about it being 'wrong'. I find it laughable as this is meant to a be a transparent process we can all learn from and let's be honest, everyone here would have signed to make income online.
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Rosita Premium
All of that is true but it is nice to know one is in the right place. I wonder what is the success to failure rate in WA?
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LahVirtus Premium
That's subjective @davyrobot. It's a valid question. There are literally 100's of thousands of WA's on this site. It's obvious the Founders have an excellent platform here and by doing the simple math are quite successful financially. Asking each of them for their P&L Statement would be inappropriate. That is not what @Kevin153 even suggested in this thread. He merely asked this question for the benefit of others, and wanted to offer up some "hope", "potential" to all the head bangers out there spending time and money in possibly an unexpectedly unfruitful venture... over too long of a period of time. So YES time invested is $, and $ is what attracted you and I as well as 100's of thousands of followers to this site called WEALTHY Affiliates". So kudos to you @Kevin153, unfortunately your query did not generate results. I'm a starter and that in fact is one of the many due diligent searches I have made which led me to this thread.
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davyrobot Premium
It feels - horrible!
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jthopkins Premium
Don't you think this is a little personal Kevin?
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abbgabb12 Premium
This is a great discussion subject, Kevin. As a new member of WA, I appreciate you bringing it up.
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LYordan Premium
I appreciate Kevin's question because the bottom line is $
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