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Hello guys, I have finished all 5 levels of traingin. It has been half a month since I have started my blog:
- have written 7 articles;
-ranked all blogposts in google
Hello Proximus. I found this situation to be very unusual. Even if you were not receiving any organic traffic, you should at least be seeing hits from CA that Google has crawled your site. So that tells me 2 things. (1) that your tracking code has disappeared from the header of your site and/or (2) that you haven't submitted a site map yet to GWT. I'd check both of these before losing faith. This has happened to me on several occasions and it's usually after I change themes or make changes in the header.php and forgetting to submit a sitemap. Keep up the good work. It's way too early to lose faith right now.
All the best, Alanna
Hmm, true, i really do not see any spiders coming to crawl my site. From the other hand - when I visit my site I see hits in realtime view, so that would not be possible without tracking code. GWT sitemap submitted and indexed 6 of 7 pages.
Regarding crawlers here's what google help says: "Because most search engine robots do not activate JavaScript, robot traffic is not counted in Analytics when using a JavaScript tracking method."
If you see hits in realtime view, but they do not appear in your stats, then that must mean that you filtered out your IP address? If you didn't filter out your IP address and you don't see your own hit, then it sounds like you have traffic but it's not being tracked by Google. This would be due to the tracking code or sitemap I mentioned before.
True, it's filtered out to not mess my data since I am visiting my site very very many times doing all the updates etc. But, it's only my IP that's being filtered out.. so the very fact that only my IP hits the site - that leads me to thinking that there are no other visitors. But sure, I'll keep posting new articles, let's see what happens.
If you want to test your stat count, maybe ask a few friends to go to your site and click on a few posts? If you know people in other states that could test your site, then you would know for sure if Google is tracking your site or not. Alternatively, you could post a link here. I'm sure we'd all be happy to help you test your site traffic.
I looked at access logs directly, there are google bot, msn bot etc. But no genuine human ip.
So that's good. Sounds like your site is getting crawled. If you have a Google+ account, I'd drop a few links out there and make them public. You don't need followers for that. I don't have many followers except a few friends so when I share on G+ I always make it public.
Just a word of caution though, Proximus. If your site is promoting WA please see Boomer's recent post about WA links on G+. Apparently, Google doesn't like it and will give you a little "slap" for that! You can check out the post here: Learning and Laughter 12 - Sharing WA on Google Plus
Hi Alanna,
I hope you are well - it seems I am having the same problem as Proximus was with Google Analytics. I can see myself on my website in real time but it is not adding to the stats and I also know that my friends and family have visited my site and this is not showing... could you please explain what you mean by site map as I am new to all of this and do not know what settings/alterations to make. Any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Hey angel171188. Here's a link to Kyle's training on how to submit a sitemap. Let me know if you have any problems. Alanna Setting Up & Submitting a Sitemap to Google Webmaster Tools
Not having zero followers shouldn't prevent you from posting on social media. I started my Twitter and Pinterest account (I chose to not use Facebook) when I created my website. Ever since then I have been posting on my social media accounts. More of my traffic comes from social media than through organic search traffic. There are many ways for people to find your content on social media without following you.
I also recommend you watch this video training to help generate traffic: Generating Traffic: A Live Walkthrough
Thank you, I never thought of that it might actually work without any followers, that's interesting.
Over time, you will gain followers :) Something else to look into is email marketing, because it's one of the most powerful ways to earn loyal customers. Most people visit your site and then never return. But once you have an opt-in form on your website to collect their email address, those visitors who would have otherwise left have now given you their email address, so you can keep them coming back. I'm currently working on building my opt-in form too. Check out the email marketing classroom. That's where I'm learning.
Hi Maris
What is your niche? Is it very competitive?
Are you participating in the comment give and take thread? I find my posts are ranked quicker in Google if there is already some engagement on them: Need website comments? the give and take comment thread Also recommend getting active socially (FB/Twitter/Pinterest/G+) and submitting your articles to Stumbleupon too. I know you say what is the point, but maybe this can change your mind...
There are threads in WA to get the ball rolling: Facebook Page Likes Thread - Give Likes, Take Likes! Share Your Twitter Accounts Here!! Let's Network on Pinterest! With Twitter, once you have a small number of followers and are posting daily (not always advertising, but sharing other useful info too, or commenting on trending topics), get over to narrow.io and have it do some of the work for you. Thanks to Loes for sharing this with us - I get a handful of new followers and re-tweets each day thanks to this tool. I also get a fair bit of traffic from Twitter.
FB is a slow burner, and depending on your niche might not really take off, but it takes five minutes to set a page up, so you're not losing anything by doing it.
I'm not really sure I see the value in Pinterest yet, but the more I pin, the more followers I get, so hopefully sooner or later it will come good.
G+ I'm not using to it's full potential but it's on my to-do list. People seem to like to share my content on G+ more than any other platform, so I should make more effort really.
All of these things lead to engagement and Google likes to see this.
Assume you've already submitted a sitemap to Webmaster Tools (Google and Bing)?
C
Thanks LittleClaire,
my sub-niche is health/food related and i wouldn't say it has a high competition, quiet the opposite, sometimes i wonder whether it is not too small. From the other hand - Jaaxy gave quiet a bunch of kw phrases with good numbers for a starter!
Haven't participated in any of these threads you mentioned since it seemed pretty much artificial to me without anyone interested in topics genuinely.
No sweat.
OK, well I would say you have a popular niche and should have no problem getting interest. Although I don't know how far you have niched down, but if Jaxxy is saying there is search traffic, then I believe that to be true. You could double check in Google Webmaster Tools, though. Also check webmaster to see if your pages are making any search impressions. PM me if you want details on how to do this.
I see your point, but social media is a great way to drive traffic. Just dedicate half a hour a day to being active in the communities and you'll see the benefits. Hope to see you over on those threads once you've got your profiles set up - I'll be your number one follower :)
Also, go submit your URL to the webpage lottery: http://www.webpagelottery.com/ (another one of Loes' great ideas! - that woman is amazing).
C
Hey, Have you Installed the All In SEO plugin and Modified the settings as per the training .
of course, i am not a newbie in IT so all the tech side has been done perfectly as described in teachings :)
Okay, and when should I start to worry that creating quality content is not enough? :) Let's say if after X months there are still no traffic.. what is the X?
There is no X, just create content, Google wants content if you get no traffic at all then you need to look at your niche
Do you have stat press installed on your site to see accurately what visitors you are getting
Barry
I do have google analytics in place.
There should be some common sense's X in place after which you say.. okay, X months have passed and i still get zero traffic, this is a good indication that niche is not working so let's change the niche. Otherwise you would create content for years and what's the point if no traffic at the end? :)
I would add the statpress plugin its free and it gives you very real time information
I understand what your saying but ranking pages in Google needs to have a regular content being posted all the time the biggest signal to Google is that your site keeps getting updated on a regular basis
What I mean about there is no X is that there is no equation that can tell you when to stop with a niche its down to you really
If the keyword tool tells you that there are people in this niche then they should be there but you have to get your pages ranked highly to get them
All business decisions have an element of risk, the truth is its all a risk no matter what you do
To give you an example the guy on here who has just won a trip to las veges had over 300 articles on his site
Barry
Yeah, but the whole social posting thing would make sense only if there is enough ppl to make it rolling. You need initial critical mass, don't you? Otherwise post as much as you want - nobody's clicking (since you have nobdoy in your friendslists).
I am not quiet understanding then how one should start the online business if google waits on social platofrms, and social platforms in my understanding could start to grow only if there's some traffic of ppl coming to your site.
To me it looks like there's A and B. A will grow when B is active. And B will grow if A is active. But in the beginning both A and B are passive. How can i light the fire then?
On Social media you need to follow others. As you follow them they tend to follow you. Than their friends and people they follow can all be linked to you. It creates a snowball effect. I do think Social Media should not be ignored, however it does depend on what your market is and who your target audience is. Have you done any advertising yet? That seems to be the way to increase traffic and get likes.
Hey there, thanks for the response! Nope, I haven't done any social media yet. Seems I should :)
Hey Proximus, when I started out I wasn't seeing any traffic either nor was I into the social media thing, but as I learned more about social media and started to incorporate it into my daily life I am seeing a trickle of traffic.
Also it takes a while for Google to start trusting your site because it is new so it will not show up on the first page of search results as yet, but if you keep adding content using those low hanging fruit keywords; you will eventually gain google's trust and start ranking higher and higher.
Hi Poximus. you might want to read my blog post on Still Waiting For Google To Give You the Love? The secret is to do as you've been doing, good targeted keywords wrapped in quality content. Keep going on that with new updates. However, you can't wait for the search engines as they look to see what traffic you get from other sources such as social media and authority websites. If you don't have that coming into your site then your rankings will be in the gutter. A catch 22 situation. PM me if you want to know a new method I am trying out to get highly targeted traffic. If Google ranks me then that's a bonus but I am not hanging around waiting.
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2.5 weeks, zero traffic, how to proceed?
Hello guys, I have finished all 5 levels of traingin. It has been half a month since I have started my blog:
- have written 7 articles;
-ranked all blogposts in google
Hey Proximus. One thing I failed to mention that is quite important is to check GA tracking code status. Make sure it says "receiving data." Then you know for sure that GA is set up and receiving info ok. If it's not receiving data, then that's your problem. You may have already done this but it was playing on my mind that I forgot to mention it.
If it says "tracking not installed" and you know you've installed it then that's where you should focus your attention. Missing a bracket { or } could throw off the tracking code.
Hello Proximus. I found this situation to be very unusual. Even if you were not receiving any organic traffic, you should at least be seeing hits from CA that Google has crawled your site. So that tells me 2 things. (1) that your tracking code has disappeared from the header of your site and/or (2) that you haven't submitted a site map yet to GWT. I'd check both of these before losing faith. This has happened to me on several occasions and it's usually after I change themes or make changes in the header.php and forgetting to submit a sitemap. Keep up the good work. It's way too early to lose faith right now.
All the best, Alanna
Hmm, true, i really do not see any spiders coming to crawl my site. From the other hand - when I visit my site I see hits in realtime view, so that would not be possible without tracking code. GWT sitemap submitted and indexed 6 of 7 pages.
Regarding crawlers here's what google help says: "Because most search engine robots do not activate JavaScript, robot traffic is not counted in Analytics when using a JavaScript tracking method."
If you see hits in realtime view, but they do not appear in your stats, then that must mean that you filtered out your IP address? If you didn't filter out your IP address and you don't see your own hit, then it sounds like you have traffic but it's not being tracked by Google. This would be due to the tracking code or sitemap I mentioned before.
True, it's filtered out to not mess my data since I am visiting my site very very many times doing all the updates etc. But, it's only my IP that's being filtered out.. so the very fact that only my IP hits the site - that leads me to thinking that there are no other visitors. But sure, I'll keep posting new articles, let's see what happens.
If you want to test your stat count, maybe ask a few friends to go to your site and click on a few posts? If you know people in other states that could test your site, then you would know for sure if Google is tracking your site or not. Alternatively, you could post a link here. I'm sure we'd all be happy to help you test your site traffic.
I looked at access logs directly, there are google bot, msn bot etc. But no genuine human ip.
So that's good. Sounds like your site is getting crawled. If you have a Google+ account, I'd drop a few links out there and make them public. You don't need followers for that. I don't have many followers except a few friends so when I share on G+ I always make it public.
Just a word of caution though, Proximus. If your site is promoting WA please see Boomer's recent post about WA links on G+. Apparently, Google doesn't like it and will give you a little "slap" for that! You can check out the post here: Learning and Laughter 12 - Sharing WA on Google Plus
Hi Alanna,
I hope you are well - it seems I am having the same problem as Proximus was with Google Analytics. I can see myself on my website in real time but it is not adding to the stats and I also know that my friends and family have visited my site and this is not showing... could you please explain what you mean by site map as I am new to all of this and do not know what settings/alterations to make. Any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Hey angel171188. Here's a link to Kyle's training on how to submit a sitemap. Let me know if you have any problems. Alanna Setting Up & Submitting a Sitemap to Google Webmaster Tools
Not having zero followers shouldn't prevent you from posting on social media. I started my Twitter and Pinterest account (I chose to not use Facebook) when I created my website. Ever since then I have been posting on my social media accounts. More of my traffic comes from social media than through organic search traffic. There are many ways for people to find your content on social media without following you.
I also recommend you watch this video training to help generate traffic: Generating Traffic: A Live Walkthrough
Thank you, I never thought of that it might actually work without any followers, that's interesting.
Over time, you will gain followers :) Something else to look into is email marketing, because it's one of the most powerful ways to earn loyal customers. Most people visit your site and then never return. But once you have an opt-in form on your website to collect their email address, those visitors who would have otherwise left have now given you their email address, so you can keep them coming back. I'm currently working on building my opt-in form too. Check out the email marketing classroom. That's where I'm learning.
Hi Maris
What is your niche? Is it very competitive?
Are you participating in the comment give and take thread? I find my posts are ranked quicker in Google if there is already some engagement on them: Need website comments? the give and take comment thread Also recommend getting active socially (FB/Twitter/Pinterest/G+) and submitting your articles to Stumbleupon too. I know you say what is the point, but maybe this can change your mind...
There are threads in WA to get the ball rolling: Facebook Page Likes Thread - Give Likes, Take Likes! Share Your Twitter Accounts Here!! Let's Network on Pinterest! With Twitter, once you have a small number of followers and are posting daily (not always advertising, but sharing other useful info too, or commenting on trending topics), get over to narrow.io and have it do some of the work for you. Thanks to Loes for sharing this with us - I get a handful of new followers and re-tweets each day thanks to this tool. I also get a fair bit of traffic from Twitter.
FB is a slow burner, and depending on your niche might not really take off, but it takes five minutes to set a page up, so you're not losing anything by doing it.
I'm not really sure I see the value in Pinterest yet, but the more I pin, the more followers I get, so hopefully sooner or later it will come good.
G+ I'm not using to it's full potential but it's on my to-do list. People seem to like to share my content on G+ more than any other platform, so I should make more effort really.
All of these things lead to engagement and Google likes to see this.
Assume you've already submitted a sitemap to Webmaster Tools (Google and Bing)?
C
Thanks LittleClaire,
my sub-niche is health/food related and i wouldn't say it has a high competition, quiet the opposite, sometimes i wonder whether it is not too small. From the other hand - Jaaxy gave quiet a bunch of kw phrases with good numbers for a starter!
Haven't participated in any of these threads you mentioned since it seemed pretty much artificial to me without anyone interested in topics genuinely.
No sweat.
OK, well I would say you have a popular niche and should have no problem getting interest. Although I don't know how far you have niched down, but if Jaxxy is saying there is search traffic, then I believe that to be true. You could double check in Google Webmaster Tools, though. Also check webmaster to see if your pages are making any search impressions. PM me if you want details on how to do this.
I see your point, but social media is a great way to drive traffic. Just dedicate half a hour a day to being active in the communities and you'll see the benefits. Hope to see you over on those threads once you've got your profiles set up - I'll be your number one follower :)
Also, go submit your URL to the webpage lottery: http://www.webpagelottery.com/ (another one of Loes' great ideas! - that woman is amazing).
C
Hey, Have you Installed the All In SEO plugin and Modified the settings as per the training .
of course, i am not a newbie in IT so all the tech side has been done perfectly as described in teachings :)
Okay, and when should I start to worry that creating quality content is not enough? :) Let's say if after X months there are still no traffic.. what is the X?
There is no X, just create content, Google wants content if you get no traffic at all then you need to look at your niche
Do you have stat press installed on your site to see accurately what visitors you are getting
Barry
I do have google analytics in place.
There should be some common sense's X in place after which you say.. okay, X months have passed and i still get zero traffic, this is a good indication that niche is not working so let's change the niche. Otherwise you would create content for years and what's the point if no traffic at the end? :)
I would add the statpress plugin its free and it gives you very real time information
I understand what your saying but ranking pages in Google needs to have a regular content being posted all the time the biggest signal to Google is that your site keeps getting updated on a regular basis
What I mean about there is no X is that there is no equation that can tell you when to stop with a niche its down to you really
If the keyword tool tells you that there are people in this niche then they should be there but you have to get your pages ranked highly to get them
All business decisions have an element of risk, the truth is its all a risk no matter what you do
To give you an example the guy on here who has just won a trip to las veges had over 300 articles on his site
Barry
Yeah, but the whole social posting thing would make sense only if there is enough ppl to make it rolling. You need initial critical mass, don't you? Otherwise post as much as you want - nobody's clicking (since you have nobdoy in your friendslists).
I am not quiet understanding then how one should start the online business if google waits on social platofrms, and social platforms in my understanding could start to grow only if there's some traffic of ppl coming to your site.
To me it looks like there's A and B. A will grow when B is active. And B will grow if A is active. But in the beginning both A and B are passive. How can i light the fire then?
On Social media you need to follow others. As you follow them they tend to follow you. Than their friends and people they follow can all be linked to you. It creates a snowball effect. I do think Social Media should not be ignored, however it does depend on what your market is and who your target audience is. Have you done any advertising yet? That seems to be the way to increase traffic and get likes.
Hey there, thanks for the response! Nope, I haven't done any social media yet. Seems I should :)
Hey Proximus, when I started out I wasn't seeing any traffic either nor was I into the social media thing, but as I learned more about social media and started to incorporate it into my daily life I am seeing a trickle of traffic.
Also it takes a while for Google to start trusting your site because it is new so it will not show up on the first page of search results as yet, but if you keep adding content using those low hanging fruit keywords; you will eventually gain google's trust and start ranking higher and higher.
Hi Poximus. you might want to read my blog post on Still Waiting For Google To Give You the Love? The secret is to do as you've been doing, good targeted keywords wrapped in quality content. Keep going on that with new updates. However, you can't wait for the search engines as they look to see what traffic you get from other sources such as social media and authority websites. If you don't have that coming into your site then your rankings will be in the gutter. A catch 22 situation. PM me if you want to know a new method I am trying out to get highly targeted traffic. If Google ranks me then that's a bonus but I am not hanging around waiting.
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Hey there, so homepage usually contains list of latest posts, showing headlines and one or two first paragraphs for each article. When you click on any of the article - it opens
I did some check earlier by using some tool on the Internet, and had a huge amount of warnings of duplicate text. But this cannot be real, the url of the text is the same in both cases. Just see what our usual tools tell you (webmaster for example).
See my question on a similar issue and answers: Can posts be on blog role and in a page sub-menu as well?
1st page article list vs full versions, duplicate?
Hey there, so homepage usually contains list of latest posts, showing headlines and one or two first paragraphs for each article. When you click on any of the article - it opens
I did some check earlier by using some tool on the Internet, and had a huge amount of warnings of duplicate text. But this cannot be real, the url of the text is the same in both cases. Just see what our usual tools tell you (webmaster for example).
See my question on a similar issue and answers: Can posts be on blog role and in a page sub-menu as well?
Hey guys, I am not sure whether I am ranked or I am not. If I type site:mydomain.com in google - it displays my pages, but when i try to do quoted exact search for my keyword -
Authorship, sitemap: both done! I finished level 5 already, right now - writing more articles. Currently there are only 3
Have you connected your site with Google authorship?
Have you created and submitted a site map?
If you haven't done these yet you may be putting the cart before the horse. The training will cover those topics.
If you have done those already, your site needs more content and more time.
A new site usually take 14 days (give or take) to be fully indexed.
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Hey guys, I am not sure whether I am ranked or I am not. If I type site:mydomain.com in google - it displays my pages, but when i try to do quoted exact search for my keyword -
Authorship, sitemap: both done! I finished level 5 already, right now - writing more articles. Currently there are only 3
Have you connected your site with Google authorship?
Have you created and submitted a site map?
If you haven't done these yet you may be putting the cart before the horse. The training will cover those topics.
If you have done those already, your site needs more content and more time.
A new site usually take 14 days (give or take) to be fully indexed.
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Hey guys, got Jaaxy, analysing keywords. One thing I don't understand why there is a difference between two numbers:
1. Jaaxy for "key word phrase" gives 45 QSR competitor
It turned out that Google doesn't give you correct competitor numbers unless you navigate to search result's last page. Lesson learned!
Google giving more results than jaaxy's qsr shows?
Hey guys, got Jaaxy, analysing keywords. One thing I don't understand why there is a difference between two numbers:
1. Jaaxy for "key word phrase" gives 45 QSR competitor
It turned out that Google doesn't give you correct competitor numbers unless you navigate to search result's last page. Lesson learned!
Hello guys! What's the purpose of Keywords List section? Files are outdated from 2013 and contain kw phrases like "best sunglasses men" that Kyle were teaching not to use but go
I clicked the Keyword lists under tools and it is outdated. Needs to be removed or updated...
According to all tutorials here - it's one thing you need to avoid. Therefore I was confused why this section is out there having contradictory material.
Yeah, abandoned that phrase it will not sound good in any writing you would do. I wonder what would happen if you put that phrase in a title for a image?
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What is the purpose of keyword lists?
Hello guys! What's the purpose of Keywords List section? Files are outdated from 2013 and contain kw phrases like "best sunglasses men" that Kyle were teaching not to use but go
I clicked the Keyword lists under tools and it is outdated. Needs to be removed or updated...
According to all tutorials here - it's one thing you need to avoid. Therefore I was confused why this section is out there having contradictory material.
Yeah, abandoned that phrase it will not sound good in any writing you would do. I wonder what would happen if you put that phrase in a title for a image?
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Hey Proximus. One thing I failed to mention that is quite important is to check GA tracking code status. Make sure it says "receiving data." Then you know for sure that GA is set up and receiving info ok. If it's not receiving data, then that's your problem. You may have already done this but it was playing on my mind that I forgot to mention it.
Thanks, will check this out!
If it says "tracking not installed" and you know you've installed it then that's where you should focus your attention. Missing a bracket { or } could throw off the tracking code.
nah, it's allright. tracking has been installed properly!