Once in awhile I get a PM, or questions in comments on various posts. At times I am left with a question on my profile page which has brought me to write about it. I don't mind getting messages at all, I welcome them.

The messages I am referring to in this post come from members who have been here for a year or more and newer ones. The members I'm referring to have only completed the 1st or 2nd Certification course. Two of them haven't started the courses yet.

A few examples from what the ones that messaged me are looking for:

  • A mentor starting with the first lesson
  • Lead the way for them, showing this person what to do
  • Help make them become a success.
  • Help take them from the bottom to the top where I am today

They aren't even trying on their own.

I guess by 'the top' they are referring to Ambassadorship? I may not even be there in a month from now. I may not be writing as many blog posts for the help I need.

I was not expecting to become an Ambassador I got there because of my blog posts. Ambassadors are still learning whether they have been with WA for many years or a few months.

I always look at their profile to see where they are at. Then tell them to do the lessons from beginning to end step by step first. Take notes etc..whatever is needed to learn properly. Once the lessons are over then to either ask for help by using the 'search for help' bar above, live chat is the quickest for a question or to write a blog post if the other two haven't answered it. Of course questions can be asked during the lessons on the discussion forum at the bottom of each lesson along with the ones I just mentioned.

Go through the training completely, don't miss any steps.

I know what it's like to start something unfamiliar. I started with barely any computer skills.

We need to help ourselves first by following the right steps as I have mentioned. I'm still fairly new, just 5 months since I joined and am working on my website, taking responsibility for my own actions, progress and success. Asking questions along the way as I continue to learn.

I don't mind helping anyone out as I have been and will continue, just put in an effort to help yourself progress also. I work hard to be where I am today, and we should all do the same.


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Chezbrown Premium
Very well said Patsy, these people are trying to take the easy way out by getting someone else to do the work for them. I remember someone else telling me the same when he became an Ambassador and he got really fed up with it all.

I was at number 26 the other day so nearly there but like yourself I have worked hard for this and never really had any intention of wanting to become an Ambassador. Unfortunately I have slipped back to 28 again. xxx
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PatsyC Premium
Don't worry about it Cheryl,
It fluctuates but what upsets me right now are the ones who game the system! They write useless blog post 3-5 times a day! just to get up there and I just noticed one who is now at rank 25!! and feel like telling him off. I may as well mention there are 2 others who did the same #6 and 8 which happened the amount of days they show they have been Ambassadors. There are a couple of others also. I don't care who reads this, I'm tired of it. Something will happen soon.

I'm waiting for the update where Kyle separates the 'social' from the business/helpful blog posts and have the proper ones there.
At least we help others and do it properly.
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Chezbrown Premium
You are very welcome Patsy and I agree with you totally. I have been here since April 2016 and have never wanted to or been anywhere near being an Ambassador until I got to 26. I do not know why they want to rush it.

We do help others and do it properly and if I do ever get there then It will not be because I rushed it lol. xx
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Taylor03 Premium
Hello Patsy,
Great post. I couldn't agree more! You have been a great resource in your posts and that is why I have tagged them for when I get to the proper training. This way I can go back to them and they will provide additional insight.
I want to be responsible for my education and take measures to make sure I get the most out of it. It is on me to learn and seek out the information I need.
With that being said, I do appreciate and value all of the added information provided by the seasoned members. A great big thank you to all.
Valerie
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Valerie, thank you and well said!

That's the way I did it and others should do the same.
I just answered one of those messages just now. From a new member who only has his profile done. I left him the same reply as the rest.

I don't like having the Amassador title, I'm still new and learning and members mistake that as being well educated and knowing everything. All the Ambassadors are still learning.

We are all here to help each other the best we can.

Thanks for leaving a comment :)
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BShafferman Premium
help those who help themselves first
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Brenda, Yes!

I have mentioned in detail to all of them the process I went through all by myself. Asking for help along the way during the courses but NOT to bypass the lessons and look for someone to help to speed up the process. It doesn't work that way.

Thanks for your comment :)
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BShafferman Premium
I'm not one for asking for help right away. I started following all of the top 200. Started going through all their blogs and trainings. I have learned a lot that way. And of course the lessons were great.
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PatsyC Premium
I kept my eye on my email for helpful ones and collected quite a few. I used most of them by now and still save others for when I need them.

I never thought to go through blogs, I see them in my emails. That's a great idea.

I also just now thought of the Activity Dashboard! we see members there that are not in our network following each other. There would be helpful blogs there also :)
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RandyL1 Premium
I agree Patsy I research everything for myself and I understand it better than having someone give me the short answer!

Randy
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Randy, I do the same.

The post I left on Adding My Logo Banner to Facebooks Messenger message is a good example.

I couldn't undertand why the image was that blank head and thought it was in a different setting, so I wrote the blog post on it in case anyone recognized it then went to investigate. Many painstaking hours later I was able to update the title adding 'Update, I Did It'. I actually took 4 pages of detailed notes on how I did it.

It ended up I didn't get comments until AFTER I solved it because they didn't know which is fine. Now, the ones who saw that post know what to do! This is why I share my issues especially solving them is the best :D

I am very thorough and detailed where some aren't, so doing it ourselves is better in the end.

Thanks for sharing :)
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accad Premium
The old saying goes 'God helps those who help themselves'.
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Jimmy,

That is the classic, and most well known true saying of them all!
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spurway Premium
Not everyone thinks the same way. Some people expect to buy a course or book that gives them the knowledge without taking the effort to read or follow the course. They believe investing in the book or course makes them successful without lifting a finger.
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Sylvia,

That sounds strange but it happens!
That goes to show how we don't think the same for sure.
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bbudhoo Premium
I agree totally
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Barbara, thank you!
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bigrog44 Premium
Thanks for sharing, Patsy.
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Roger! you are welcome :)
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MCrim Premium
One of things I have learned in the corporate world is that, generally speaking, assistance is available upon request.

However, with a capital "H" you must be able to show that you've done all you can to find the answer(s) prior to seeking help. If itr is sensed that has not been done, you'll find yourself out in the cold and on your own. That's a lonely place to be!

In the WA Community, there is a ton information we can avail ourselves of. And plenty of assistants, I might add. I can't see myself asking if I haven't done my due diligence first.

That, as you so thoroughly put it, is what we should be teaching (or mentoring) newbies as well as some veterans.

Nice post, Patsy!

mitch
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Mitch,

Thanks for sharing that with us.
It's like this everywhere and it's what I tell them all, do your part.
I'm still working on my website and learning myself.
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Carol46 Premium
I agree totally, Patsy. Also, see if your question is answered by putting the topic in the question bar up the top first. I am from the computer as second language group! :)
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Carol, thanks.

I did mention the question bar, I referred to it as the 'search for help' bar above since it's on all pages.
There are so many ways to ask for help!

Thanks for your comment :)
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MKearns Premium
Just like the advice of fastening an oxygen mask on your child first before your own on an airline Patsy!
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PatsyC Premium
Haha!!
It's sounds funny but it's true :D
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Easy-Moneys Premium
Finally...something that very much needed to be said! Kudos to you Patsy!

I love helping people and do so a lot but, as a Physician of 30 years experience, our Med School Motto was:

"SEE ONE...
DO ONE...
TEACH ONE!"

So, the "SEE ONE" in the case of Wealthy Affiliate "University" or "Open Learning Agency" would be equivalent to taking the Certification Courses ( for your Passion/Niche Website(s)) and /or Affiliate Bootcamp (for your Wealthy Affiliate Review Websites for Affiliate Marketing to ultimately create WA Referrals and Commissions)!

The "DO ONE" is obviously the ACTION TAKING that you see all over this Internet Marketing processes - if it's good enough for Nike...it's good enough for me!

Life is short- DO STUFF - don't be afraid of making mistakes!

People who are born before 1982 (so age 35 and above - all of u Boomers) are considered "Computer-as-a Second-Language" Computer Learners - we are afraid to push buttons, afraid of coding, afraid of just a lot -----I blame our Formal Educational System which was very controlling and did not reward thinking outside the box!

People who are born after 1982 ( so age 35 and younger) are completely Computer Fluent - no hangups, no fears, creative thinkers, always outside the box!

So, once you've completed:
1. SEE ONE - CERTIFICATION COURSES + BOOTCAMP
2. DONE ONE or TWO WEBSITES COMPLETELY

then it's time for you to "TEACH ONE" - GIVE BACK - PAY IT FORWARD...

Get used to giving .... not so much receiving ... you'll be surprised how your business surges ahead!!!

Believe in your gifts!!!

Dr Barb of Easy-moneys
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Barb thank you!

Your Med school had an interesting Motto.
After a few rounds I had to say something.

I laughed when you stated this:

"we are afraid to push buttons, afraid of coding, afraid of just a lot"

That sounds just like me! Afraid to erase everything if I hit the wrong button also :D

I believe in paying it forward and you can tell by my detailed, lengthy blog posts that I care enough to explain it so everyone can understand. This is because I like it that way for myself, simple.

Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it!
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Easy-Moneys Premium
Love your honest style-keep on good friend!!

Dr Barb
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PatsyC Premium
Thank you!
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Calmkoala Premium
Hi Patsy, well said! I try really hard to help myself and have lost count of the times I have attempted over and over to sort stuff out myself! I think I do this to my detriment mostly! But I know I'll learn better if I find the solution through trial and error.

I'm happy to help if someone has tried and can't manage something, but...'if you give a man a fish' etc! My philosophy is to help people to help themselves! Enjoy the rest of your weekend, Sue :)
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Sue, thanks!

I'm the same way with attempting things over and over. Most I solved and this is why I write the blog posts I have so far. They are issues and I share them so we all learn together.

The other day I left a post for help and didn't get answers, that is how bad it was! but, just after I left that post I went to see if I could fix it.

I ended up updating that post with 'Update I Did it'.
It's called 'Adding My Logo Banner to Facebooks Messenger Messages'

I just grabbed the link for you to see what I went through. Hours of torture.... Thanks Sue, enjoy your weekend also :D
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Calmkoala Premium
Hi Patsy, just read this... really well done! I have spent today trying to figure out how to add a blog roll to a page on my site. These things seem so easy once you have figured them out!

But it's sooo frustrating when you don't know! I don't want to keep asking as there is so much to learn. It takes time, but the satisfaction when you manage it is great! 'Just keep tinkering' is becoming my motto! Thanks for being so generous, really appreciate it. Keep going, Sue :)
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Sue, thank you!

Didn't you do a search in the 'search for help here' bar above?
Or go to live chat or write a blog post...

I helped someone with that recently and have the screen shots of where the settings are. There are 2 areas you have to check.

It sounds like you figured it out, good for you!
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Mauricio53 Premium
Good advice and common sense don't always meet in the middle. Maybe people want what you have without the effort it took you to reach it.
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Maurice,

Yes, that one member saw how I've only been here for 5 months and wanted the same results. I couldn't help but to leave him a long, very long detailed message on how it happened. This was a private message the other day.

Thanks for your comment :)
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Phil-58 Premium
well said and thats the way we all have to do it here at WA
no one else is going to do it for us
'if it's to be...it's up to me'
Thanks for posting
Cheers PB
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PatsyC Premium
Thanks Phil, I've never heard that phrase it's a good one.

You are welcome, after the last request I had to say something :)
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rwaite3613 Premium
Well said, Patsy. I learn quite a bit from your posts.

Randy
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Randy thanks :)

It's the ones who don't care to do the lessons and rely on the rest of us to do the work.
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OldMCSEGuy Premium
I am just filling in for Jay for a few days but I have seen this also. Jay has some blogs... According to Jay, the same questions are asked over and over. If you just listen, you will attain some basic knowledge. And the training here is presented in a very simple format. I guess people are just lazy. Which could bring you to another conclusion?

-Keith
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Keith,

I had several of these over the past few days, and tell them all the same as I stated in my post. Over and over....

I'm still new and working on my website. My 'issues' blog posts brought me to where I am today as an Ambassador rank 10. I don't work toward that it happened gradually over time, and may not last long it's no big deal.

Some may think I know everything.

Thanks for stopping by and leaving the links.
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OldMCSEGuy Premium
It seems all you need to do to become an ambassador is spend time in wa. They have asked Jay to head up a local group of entrepreneurs. He has mentioned that he would like to have a group of cheerleaders like the wa ambassadors to cheer people through. He is a professional so I'm sure he will have a skill group of associates also if he decides to take it.

I spend so much time going between the Skunk Works in California and my home office at Nasa in Orlando I have no time even to be messing around with this stuff.
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PatsyC Premium
Starting on Monday, the new changes will take effect.
Kyle and Carson have been working on them for a year, and one is regarding Ambassadorship.

Right now there are a mix of teaching blog posts to social ones.
With the new changes there will be separate places to teach and socialize. Not sure how it will look but that Ambassador list will change significantly rank wise in a couple of days.

The Activity Dashboard will have a new look also.

Wow Keith California, Orlando......

I love Canada and where I am in Ontario but...
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lakesidemom Premium
Nice post and I personally have learned a lot from you Thank you.
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Virpi you are welcome and thank you :)

I had to write about it since I've had several requests and felt like I kept repeating myself with the same answers.

I love helping others, I have been all my life it comes naturally to me. The best way to help someone is to tell them to try on their own first, asking questions along the way.
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lakesidemom Premium
You can't learn without doing things yourself that is the truth.
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PatsyC Premium
Exaclty right!
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laparra1 Premium
Good afternoon Patsy,

What you say makes all the sense in the world. I myself am guilty of not completing all the available courses. I have learned a lot on the way reading answers on questions. I am happy that the writing of my 2 posts a week is taking less time and most of it before it is published, I do myself. My better half will be out of a job soon. He will do some Guest Posts for my websites as we are very much on the same wave length.

Have a great weekend, Taetske
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PatsyC Premium
Good afternoon Taetske :)

I know not everyone completes the lessons but the difference is for the ones who don't even try at all. They expect other members to do the work for them, guiding them along.

While I'm here, having the short memory I've had lately, I have been wanting to thank you! for leaving a comment on my website.
We sure have something in common :D
This is why I chose my niche, I love it so much I know everything about it and have lots of experience.

Thanks again and have a great weekend also :)
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ChrisTowers Premium
Great to see you at the top Patsy ... I remember around 1 year ago you were asking me for advice... and it was a pleasure to help you... well I hope I did lol

Really proud of you... and great to see you sitting high up at the top and doing well....

Bravo x x x

Chris
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Stranger!

It may seem like a year, but it's been 5 months and yes you have helped me back then :)

You helped me with my messed up images while I was in training! among other things.

I wasn't expecting to be an Ambassador, my blog posts brought me to rank 10 quickly. I post my issues and we all learn from them. Who knows how long I'll last as one, it's fine for me either way.

I wondered what happened to you since I hadn't seen any activity for a few months.

We made plans to hang out in Greece sometime, remember? when I visit my family. Not sure how long that will be.

Thank you for being proud of me and for stopping by!

Hugs, and Mediterranean kisses on both cheeks xxoo
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ChrisTowers Premium
Hey Patsy... yeah i have been around... but summer is quite dominating when it comes to work... the tourists control my life :)

I do not have the time to be social really... but i am keeping my site and social sites active.... when the summer here closes I will be back in full swing :)

Looking forward to your visit... the drinks are on me :)

See you soon... and well done again... you are doing great x x x
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Chris, I know what it's like with tourist season.
I've been in retail management all of my life and lived in places where it's crazy during that time. I love multitasking and being on the go steady.

My cousin has a Taverna in Livadi Greece. My parents go see her when they visit every couple of years. They stay for about 3 months and make sure to hang out there for a few days. It's gorgeous! I'll leave you the Facebook link if it's allowed. Not sure exactly where it is.

https://www.facebook.com/llivadi2009/

Thanks again Chris, see you around.

Hugs xo
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ChrisTowers Premium
Great Patsy... I found them ... liked the page and sent them a message :)

Thanks

Chris
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PatsyC Premium
You are welcome Chris, I'm not sure exaclty where that is.
Are you close to them?

I forgot, my cousin Sophie has another Facebook page. I don't know why she didn't just keep the one I sent you.
Let me know if you want the more recent one it shouldn't matter.

I haven't seen her since they left Canada a very long time ago.
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pablocortina Premium
Your message makes sense. Thank you, Patsy
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PatsyC Premium
Hi Pablo, you are welcome!
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