The new SiteComments 2.0 that came out back in Oc/18 allows members to become Certified Commenters to earn Cash Credits that are worth $0.50 each.
Because I don't use th
Hi Grace, I gave up on it. Just want to get comments on my site, not even to make any earnings, but there’s nothing I can ever find to comment on these days. They’re all taken up.
I personally think without the monetary incentive, the system was working much better. A lot more genuine.
Now I don’t go on there anymore.
Hi Joo, I really appreciate you letting me know your experience, thank you. :)
Yes that is a problem, it's almost working too well because there are so many people wanting to comment for money.
Have you tried this comment thread: Need website comments? the give and take comment thread There is more of a trade, so you can use that instead.
Best,
Grace
Yeah you’re right Grace. I must go back to the give and take thread. Thanks for the great reminder!!
whenever i try to comment, nothing available to comment on.However I have achieved 100 % on comments
Hello Grace,
I made $9 way back when it was introduced, then didn't have time and lost my certified commenter status. Now I am building it back up but that is not my intention, I am just trying to get comments for my site so it is occurring naturally over time. You don't get paid unless you have $10 minimum so I have not actually received the $9 yet.
Hi Grace, I used to use SiteComments a lot prior to the upgrade. Now I have a couple of issues.
1. eMail notifications get to me just after midnight. My bedtime is 9:30 pm. Therefore all are usually answered by the time I stagger out of bed.
2. When I do actually get a 'live' one that I feel competent to answer, I spend time commenting and then can't submit it.
3. When a substitute is made because the specific one notified has been filled, it is usually a topic I will or can not comment on.
4. The author's name is no longer given so if I find feedback that really needs to be forwarded to them for fixing (via PM!) I can't do it.
After saying that, my most recent request for a comment far exceeded my expectations. And all were relative to the article and well written.
As I can't seem to gain access to many requests So I expect I will never be a certified commentor. I reckon I will be too old and feeble to type anymore!
I would like to add, keep an eye out for really off the planet comments. I did an article on goals a while ago. I just got a comment back about some sort of food prep item. I am sure that has a goal but not about affiliate marketing.
Just someone trying to widen their exposure to make money. A piggy back maneuver!
Hi Helen, I guess the majority of us requesting comments are not in your living area so the comments are taken before you can even get to them.
Well, the quality of comments need to be monitored by the requester as this is a determining factor to be a certified commenter. If a website owner find the quality not there, they should just disapprove.
It's a system that should work to weed out the ones that's just trying to make a buck.
I don't write comments to earn cash, but the issue of lower quality does seem to exist. I requested a comment recently and got two in return. Now I applaud non-English writers for trying to learn and earn, but I don't want their comments on my site.
Intuition told me not to spend time trying to get better comments. I just accepted the first and did the necessary edits, then declined the second.
Honestly, I probably won't use it anymore. I'd rather reach out to individuals and see if they want to trade comments.
Geoff.
Hi Geoff, I hear you and you can do that do trades instead. This thread will be good for you: Need website comments? the give and take comment thread It's usually for those who don't host on WA, but this is a place where you are supposed to comment on 2 and then request one, but it seems more of a one on one trade really when I have used it.
I've been doing it on and off and have made around $12 or so. Sadly, the new system has triggered a rush to make money by commenting and, although it got a lot of people to start commenting, I fear the quality of of the comments is suffering as they rush to make that buck...
Thank you Scott for your input here, very interesting. Yes, I think when there's money, there will be people who will take advantage. But at least, the site owners have the option to approve or not.
So true....it just makes finding requests more difficult at times as they swoop in to leave a comment and we have to wait for the approval/disapproval for it to be available again. I also saw somewhere where the same person commented twice on the same post...odd.
Hmm, that is odd. Must be a cliche.
Yeah that's what everyone here is saying, not enough comment opportunities.
I've made $55 so far, but I don't have a lot of time to do it and, currently, I am not at the 50 comments necessary to be a certified comment. I'm working my way back up to it. I enjoy getting the comments, but like Phil said, there are a lot of comment spammers which is a big bummer!
Karin
That's great to hear Karin, could you please tell me how long that took to earn $55? Also, do you earn only $0.50 for each comment or $1?
I'm looking at $5, Grace and wondering how best to spend it :-)
The main effect of the 50 cents payout was to bring in an unfortunate number of comment spammers.
Thank you Phil for your quick reply. $5 so far huh? Don't spend it all at one place. ;)
The comment spammers, wherever there is money, there are spammers.
I dont have knowledge regarding that platform. yes please do share you answers so that I will also earn extra income here. to pay my monthly bills at WA
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Certified commenters - how much are you making?
The new SiteComments 2.0 that came out back in Oc/18 allows members to become Certified Commenters to earn Cash Credits that are worth $0.50 each.
Because I don't use th
The comment system may have been upgraded but the quality of comments are still terribly low. Still a lot of people wasting their time reviewing sites and giving incredibly fake and ungenuine looking comments.
That was the real problem with the original system - folks trying to game it get a quick point (or buck) as fast as they can and next article.
Essentially no interaction with the articles and generic comments left. Hardly surprising when the commenter evidently has not read the article that they are supposed to be commenting on.
Honestly, if you want average or low quality comments that are barely better than spam bots use the comments engine!.
Oddly, back in the day some 3 years or so back the quality was actually good, folks actually read and interacted with the content. This was before the previous change where the ability to buy comments was added.
Hi Derek, I find these experiences odd since there is an approval process in place to weed out the bad commenters and if they get enough of it, they will not have the "Certified commenter" status and will not be able to earn eventually if they kept that up.
Why do you think the quality continues to be bad if there is an approval process?
A lot of new members or inexperienced will accept and approve any comment that comes their way, regardless of quality. I don't think it takes much to be certified commenter...
Hi Grace, I gave up on it. Just want to get comments on my site, not even to make any earnings, but there’s nothing I can ever find to comment on these days. They’re all taken up.
I personally think without the monetary incentive, the system was working much better. A lot more genuine.
Now I don’t go on there anymore.
Hi Joo, I really appreciate you letting me know your experience, thank you. :)
Yes that is a problem, it's almost working too well because there are so many people wanting to comment for money.
Have you tried this comment thread: Need website comments? the give and take comment thread There is more of a trade, so you can use that instead.
Best,
Grace
Yeah you’re right Grace. I must go back to the give and take thread. Thanks for the great reminder!!
whenever i try to comment, nothing available to comment on.However I have achieved 100 % on comments
Hello Grace,
I made $9 way back when it was introduced, then didn't have time and lost my certified commenter status. Now I am building it back up but that is not my intention, I am just trying to get comments for my site so it is occurring naturally over time. You don't get paid unless you have $10 minimum so I have not actually received the $9 yet.
Hi Grace, I used to use SiteComments a lot prior to the upgrade. Now I have a couple of issues.
1. eMail notifications get to me just after midnight. My bedtime is 9:30 pm. Therefore all are usually answered by the time I stagger out of bed.
2. When I do actually get a 'live' one that I feel competent to answer, I spend time commenting and then can't submit it.
3. When a substitute is made because the specific one notified has been filled, it is usually a topic I will or can not comment on.
4. The author's name is no longer given so if I find feedback that really needs to be forwarded to them for fixing (via PM!) I can't do it.
After saying that, my most recent request for a comment far exceeded my expectations. And all were relative to the article and well written.
As I can't seem to gain access to many requests So I expect I will never be a certified commentor. I reckon I will be too old and feeble to type anymore!
I would like to add, keep an eye out for really off the planet comments. I did an article on goals a while ago. I just got a comment back about some sort of food prep item. I am sure that has a goal but not about affiliate marketing.
Just someone trying to widen their exposure to make money. A piggy back maneuver!
Hi Helen, I guess the majority of us requesting comments are not in your living area so the comments are taken before you can even get to them.
Well, the quality of comments need to be monitored by the requester as this is a determining factor to be a certified commenter. If a website owner find the quality not there, they should just disapprove.
It's a system that should work to weed out the ones that's just trying to make a buck.
I don't write comments to earn cash, but the issue of lower quality does seem to exist. I requested a comment recently and got two in return. Now I applaud non-English writers for trying to learn and earn, but I don't want their comments on my site.
Intuition told me not to spend time trying to get better comments. I just accepted the first and did the necessary edits, then declined the second.
Honestly, I probably won't use it anymore. I'd rather reach out to individuals and see if they want to trade comments.
Geoff.
Hi Geoff, I hear you and you can do that do trades instead. This thread will be good for you: Need website comments? the give and take comment thread It's usually for those who don't host on WA, but this is a place where you are supposed to comment on 2 and then request one, but it seems more of a one on one trade really when I have used it.
I've been doing it on and off and have made around $12 or so. Sadly, the new system has triggered a rush to make money by commenting and, although it got a lot of people to start commenting, I fear the quality of of the comments is suffering as they rush to make that buck...
Thank you Scott for your input here, very interesting. Yes, I think when there's money, there will be people who will take advantage. But at least, the site owners have the option to approve or not.
So true....it just makes finding requests more difficult at times as they swoop in to leave a comment and we have to wait for the approval/disapproval for it to be available again. I also saw somewhere where the same person commented twice on the same post...odd.
Hmm, that is odd. Must be a cliche.
Yeah that's what everyone here is saying, not enough comment opportunities.
I've made $55 so far, but I don't have a lot of time to do it and, currently, I am not at the 50 comments necessary to be a certified comment. I'm working my way back up to it. I enjoy getting the comments, but like Phil said, there are a lot of comment spammers which is a big bummer!
Karin
That's great to hear Karin, could you please tell me how long that took to earn $55? Also, do you earn only $0.50 for each comment or $1?
I'm looking at $5, Grace and wondering how best to spend it :-)
The main effect of the 50 cents payout was to bring in an unfortunate number of comment spammers.
Thank you Phil for your quick reply. $5 so far huh? Don't spend it all at one place. ;)
The comment spammers, wherever there is money, there are spammers.
I dont have knowledge regarding that platform. yes please do share you answers so that I will also earn extra income here. to pay my monthly bills at WA
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I want to stop getting harassed. I only have IP addresses to go on. No real name or emails. I would love get these scum bags off my site.
UPDATE:
no not really it could be one person with many devices. I sitting in a swivel chair now and can reach 3 different computers and a smart phone. With a little knowledge they can all use the router/modem ip or can be set up individually or anyone of them can be set to randomly pick a different ip address.. you can also file a complaint with the ISP if you can locate that lol isp's don't like bad advertisment... Find a friend who is tech savy and they can track this guy down without much problem..
Aaaah... you can also report the IP addresses and they WILL be shut down, though it will take a bit of time. I use abuseipdb.com
So... you can use BOTH options... leastwise, that's what I have done in the past.
Thanks for this tip Trish! I will keep it in mind if these guys keep coming back but for now, the IP ban at host level worked.
Yeaaaaah... just so long as you were able to stop them. Hmmm... I can sense a tutorial on this issue by your Grace... well, I hope so. :-))
How dare they threaten my littlemama? Get them off your tail Girl. It seems Jerry provided just what you needed.
I'm sorry this is happening to you, but enemies of progress are everywhere. So lucky there is a way of dealing with this type.
Take care.
Thanks Girl, it's been a tough week. I'm don't have a strong stomach for this sort of stuff, it's been really tough for me.
I can assure you that no one has a strong stomach for such behavior, well I don't, let me speak for myself. Have courage and remain strong.
Try reading these articles I found regarding bad backlinks: https://www.bruceclay.com/blog/google-disavowfiles-service/
and
https://www.bruceclay.com/blog/complete-guide-bing-and-google-disavowing-links/
Maybe useful
I have done this earlier in one site, I used the Blacklist box and it seems it worked, see the screenshot.
Thanks Jovo, see below, do they have a team of harassers?? All the IP addresses are different.
Incredible. It looks like an organized attack. Yes, you are right, they will generate other IP addresses. Perhaps people from Support might suggest something better.
I know exactly how feel. I have a few ongoing spam commenters that I have to continually keep my eyes out for. I am able to add there IP’s to my comment blacklist section, but they seem to have an unlimited amount of IP’s to use. It does seem to slow them down though.
If you don’t already know how, you can go to your dashboard, settings, discussions, then scroll down to the “Comment Blacklist” section. The directions say the following: “When a comment contains any of these words in its content, name, URL, email, or IP address, it will be put in the trash.”
Just copy in the IP or any of the above suggestions and hit save changes at the bottom.
That’s the only method I know of Grace. Hopefully, you will receive other helpful suggestions.
Good luck.
Patrick
I just listed the list of IP addresses below, those are from EACH harassment comment. Does this mean they have a team to harass me?
It doesn’t necessarily have to be a team. Like others have mentioned, they could just be using a VPN service to create new IP’s. I just keep blocking any new ones that come in and eventually they give up...until a new spammer comes along.
I would be more worried about the “having massive unknown backlinks to your site” that Jerry mentioned. If that is true, that could end up causing you problems. See my recent post on the topic and how it set me back more than 8 months of progress. You can read it here: Has your website ever been attacked by negative seo or in any other way? Let me know if you have any questions. I really hope you are able to figure this out Grace.
I just want to SCREAM right now. On the other question I asked about my backlink problem, someone said this can't happen anymore because Google will just give it a zero value.
This just happened to you not long ago?
I'm so sorry Grace. I understand your frustration.
My negative backlink problem started around the middle of May and by the beginning of August, I was barely scraping out 100 visitors a day. I still can't say for sure that the backlinks are what caused the drop, but nobody else can come up with an answer.
I have always followed the training and rules, and have never done any type of blackhat or spammy things and here I am.
Do you have any idea the number of backlinks your site had from one point to another?
Mine has been growing 1K a day this past week.
Mine is less than 3k total but has been steadily growing daily. Have you started adding any of the spam links to Google and Bing's disavow list?
I've updated the question post here: Ahrefs vs semrush - why are the data so different? I got confirmation from Kyle & Carson both.
Thank you for keeping me in the loop. It's nice to hear from Kyle and Carson on the subject. This means I have to continue trying to narrow down the issue.
I still have no way to be sure the drop was because of the 1,000’s of bad backlinks, but the timing coincides with the start of losing traffic. The negative links started at the end of May and within two months, my rankings and traffic dropped like a rock. I went from around 33k weekly visitors in June to about 750 weekly in the month of August
With that said, I have also considered other things like new plugins, setting changes to my blog, URL structure changes, my mobile experience and responsiveness, and site speed. In other words, I have been backtracking to see what changes were made since my traffic drop.
I really hadn’t made any changes during that time frame. In fact, the only plugin I have added in quite some time was the WP GDPR Compliance plugin. I am using the Divi Theme so my mobile experience rates pretty good and Google PageSpeed Insights gives me an 84 / 100 for mobile. Not great, but still pretty good.
The only thing I’ve added or changed before this started happening was that I added Media.Net ads to each of my posts. I placed an ad at about one-fourth of the way down the post and one at the very bottom. I am in the process of removing all ads from my site to see if that will make a difference. Maybe there is something about their code or the user experience that worked against me.
Other than that, I will get back to work and keep plugging away. I know this system works, so I will keep learning and creating. Let me know if you hear anything else Grace and good luck with your issues. Thank you!
Okay so your drop was in August? That's definitely the Google update. There was some Google update that dropped a lot of people's traffic but because it didn't affect my site that much I didn't look into this update in August.
I know a member who tried to look because it affected him big time and he has hundreds of posts on his site but have found nothing. Well, he found things, but didn't have anything to do with his site so why the drop in traffic?! He still doesn't know.
But the timing of your drop in traffic coincides with this August update, so you may want to look around the web to find out more.
I'm sorry I'm not able to provide more info.
Hi Grace, they can be a right pain in the butt.
You have an IP address then you can usually do this by blocking their IP address.
Just type into your browser -
How to Block IP Addresses in WordPress
And you should get results.
Robert
Do you mean blocking them from commenting on your site?
If that’s what you mean, you can blacklist them in your Settings>Discussion. Just put their IP address in the blacklist will do.
They are harassing me through my blog comments, that's the only way they can reach me. Thanks for the tip!
Yea, blacklisting them will do. It happened for me as well. Once you blacklist them, all the comments from that IP address will go straight to trash!
Cool, didn't realise that.
I've been getting comments from spammers trying to post their affiliate links on reviews.
It gets a tad annoying after a while lol.
Not one the same so far:
185.245.87.25
199.241.125.77
104.222.154.107
199.115.114.75
45.34.7.3
209.58.153.145
185.217.69.156
185.59.223.178
96.47.238.140
209.58.133.169
185.229.59.14
196.196.232.5
23.94.30.170
98.143.145.251
96.47.238.101
173.234.122.117
181.215.110.143
173.234.62.164
173.254.255.198
185.245.87.25
192.171.29.123
185.236.200.138
104.129.29.243
66.171.38.84
173.254.255.204
165.84.230.148
104.222.154.98
185.245.86.110
So what does this mean? Even if I block these, they will surely come back no?
Not sure about that. But I think this problem is definitely relevant to your issue of having massive unknown backlinks to your site.
My spams don't have so many different IP addresses.
Check with SiteSupport and Kyle if necessary.
Site Support won't be able to do anything for me. Kyle takes, oh I don't know, a week to get back to me, I already asked him about the backlinks a few days ago.
Yeah this is no fun.
I'm really sorry to hear such things happening. If you can't wait for Kyle to reply. Here's what I would recommend...
Are you using Yoast SEO?
I was having traffic, ranking and sitemap issues in July which SiteSupport couldn't help.
So, Jack from Barenakedscam recommended me to upgrade my free Yoast SEO to Premium Yoast SEO so that I can get access to their support team.
It's just a one-time payment. And their support team is much more helpful regarding SEO, indexing, search console and ranking issues.
They're more helpful in these areas than SiteSupport. SiteSupport is only the best in managing hosting and technical issue, not these indexing and SEO issues.
So, this is another option for you.
Thank you Jerry, I'm currently using AIOSEO, I will have to think about that. Doesn't sound expensive anyway.
Jerry, the owners responded to me, I made the update on the question: Ahrefs vs semrush - why are the data so different?
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How do I block or ban someone from my site?
I want to stop getting harassed. I only have IP addresses to go on. No real name or emails. I would love get these scum bags off my site.
UPDATE:
no not really it could be one person with many devices. I sitting in a swivel chair now and can reach 3 different computers and a smart phone. With a little knowledge they can all use the router/modem ip or can be set up individually or anyone of them can be set to randomly pick a different ip address.. you can also file a complaint with the ISP if you can locate that lol isp's don't like bad advertisment... Find a friend who is tech savy and they can track this guy down without much problem..
Aaaah... you can also report the IP addresses and they WILL be shut down, though it will take a bit of time. I use abuseipdb.com
So... you can use BOTH options... leastwise, that's what I have done in the past.
Thanks for this tip Trish! I will keep it in mind if these guys keep coming back but for now, the IP ban at host level worked.
Yeaaaaah... just so long as you were able to stop them. Hmmm... I can sense a tutorial on this issue by your Grace... well, I hope so. :-))
How dare they threaten my littlemama? Get them off your tail Girl. It seems Jerry provided just what you needed.
I'm sorry this is happening to you, but enemies of progress are everywhere. So lucky there is a way of dealing with this type.
Take care.
Thanks Girl, it's been a tough week. I'm don't have a strong stomach for this sort of stuff, it's been really tough for me.
I can assure you that no one has a strong stomach for such behavior, well I don't, let me speak for myself. Have courage and remain strong.
Try reading these articles I found regarding bad backlinks: https://www.bruceclay.com/blog/google-disavowfiles-service/
and
https://www.bruceclay.com/blog/complete-guide-bing-and-google-disavowing-links/
Maybe useful
I have done this earlier in one site, I used the Blacklist box and it seems it worked, see the screenshot.
Thanks Jovo, see below, do they have a team of harassers?? All the IP addresses are different.
Incredible. It looks like an organized attack. Yes, you are right, they will generate other IP addresses. Perhaps people from Support might suggest something better.
I know exactly how feel. I have a few ongoing spam commenters that I have to continually keep my eyes out for. I am able to add there IP’s to my comment blacklist section, but they seem to have an unlimited amount of IP’s to use. It does seem to slow them down though.
If you don’t already know how, you can go to your dashboard, settings, discussions, then scroll down to the “Comment Blacklist” section. The directions say the following: “When a comment contains any of these words in its content, name, URL, email, or IP address, it will be put in the trash.”
Just copy in the IP or any of the above suggestions and hit save changes at the bottom.
That’s the only method I know of Grace. Hopefully, you will receive other helpful suggestions.
Good luck.
Patrick
I just listed the list of IP addresses below, those are from EACH harassment comment. Does this mean they have a team to harass me?
It doesn’t necessarily have to be a team. Like others have mentioned, they could just be using a VPN service to create new IP’s. I just keep blocking any new ones that come in and eventually they give up...until a new spammer comes along.
I would be more worried about the “having massive unknown backlinks to your site” that Jerry mentioned. If that is true, that could end up causing you problems. See my recent post on the topic and how it set me back more than 8 months of progress. You can read it here: Has your website ever been attacked by negative seo or in any other way? Let me know if you have any questions. I really hope you are able to figure this out Grace.
I just want to SCREAM right now. On the other question I asked about my backlink problem, someone said this can't happen anymore because Google will just give it a zero value.
This just happened to you not long ago?
I'm so sorry Grace. I understand your frustration.
My negative backlink problem started around the middle of May and by the beginning of August, I was barely scraping out 100 visitors a day. I still can't say for sure that the backlinks are what caused the drop, but nobody else can come up with an answer.
I have always followed the training and rules, and have never done any type of blackhat or spammy things and here I am.
Do you have any idea the number of backlinks your site had from one point to another?
Mine has been growing 1K a day this past week.
Mine is less than 3k total but has been steadily growing daily. Have you started adding any of the spam links to Google and Bing's disavow list?
I've updated the question post here: Ahrefs vs semrush - why are the data so different? I got confirmation from Kyle & Carson both.
Thank you for keeping me in the loop. It's nice to hear from Kyle and Carson on the subject. This means I have to continue trying to narrow down the issue.
I still have no way to be sure the drop was because of the 1,000’s of bad backlinks, but the timing coincides with the start of losing traffic. The negative links started at the end of May and within two months, my rankings and traffic dropped like a rock. I went from around 33k weekly visitors in June to about 750 weekly in the month of August
With that said, I have also considered other things like new plugins, setting changes to my blog, URL structure changes, my mobile experience and responsiveness, and site speed. In other words, I have been backtracking to see what changes were made since my traffic drop.
I really hadn’t made any changes during that time frame. In fact, the only plugin I have added in quite some time was the WP GDPR Compliance plugin. I am using the Divi Theme so my mobile experience rates pretty good and Google PageSpeed Insights gives me an 84 / 100 for mobile. Not great, but still pretty good.
The only thing I’ve added or changed before this started happening was that I added Media.Net ads to each of my posts. I placed an ad at about one-fourth of the way down the post and one at the very bottom. I am in the process of removing all ads from my site to see if that will make a difference. Maybe there is something about their code or the user experience that worked against me.
Other than that, I will get back to work and keep plugging away. I know this system works, so I will keep learning and creating. Let me know if you hear anything else Grace and good luck with your issues. Thank you!
Okay so your drop was in August? That's definitely the Google update. There was some Google update that dropped a lot of people's traffic but because it didn't affect my site that much I didn't look into this update in August.
I know a member who tried to look because it affected him big time and he has hundreds of posts on his site but have found nothing. Well, he found things, but didn't have anything to do with his site so why the drop in traffic?! He still doesn't know.
But the timing of your drop in traffic coincides with this August update, so you may want to look around the web to find out more.
I'm sorry I'm not able to provide more info.
Hi Grace, they can be a right pain in the butt.
You have an IP address then you can usually do this by blocking their IP address.
Just type into your browser -
How to Block IP Addresses in WordPress
And you should get results.
Robert
Do you mean blocking them from commenting on your site?
If that’s what you mean, you can blacklist them in your Settings>Discussion. Just put their IP address in the blacklist will do.
They are harassing me through my blog comments, that's the only way they can reach me. Thanks for the tip!
Yea, blacklisting them will do. It happened for me as well. Once you blacklist them, all the comments from that IP address will go straight to trash!
Cool, didn't realise that.
I've been getting comments from spammers trying to post their affiliate links on reviews.
It gets a tad annoying after a while lol.
Not one the same so far:
185.245.87.25
199.241.125.77
104.222.154.107
199.115.114.75
45.34.7.3
209.58.153.145
185.217.69.156
185.59.223.178
96.47.238.140
209.58.133.169
185.229.59.14
196.196.232.5
23.94.30.170
98.143.145.251
96.47.238.101
173.234.122.117
181.215.110.143
173.234.62.164
173.254.255.198
185.245.87.25
192.171.29.123
185.236.200.138
104.129.29.243
66.171.38.84
173.254.255.204
165.84.230.148
104.222.154.98
185.245.86.110
So what does this mean? Even if I block these, they will surely come back no?
Not sure about that. But I think this problem is definitely relevant to your issue of having massive unknown backlinks to your site.
My spams don't have so many different IP addresses.
Check with SiteSupport and Kyle if necessary.
Site Support won't be able to do anything for me. Kyle takes, oh I don't know, a week to get back to me, I already asked him about the backlinks a few days ago.
Yeah this is no fun.
I'm really sorry to hear such things happening. If you can't wait for Kyle to reply. Here's what I would recommend...
Are you using Yoast SEO?
I was having traffic, ranking and sitemap issues in July which SiteSupport couldn't help.
So, Jack from Barenakedscam recommended me to upgrade my free Yoast SEO to Premium Yoast SEO so that I can get access to their support team.
It's just a one-time payment. And their support team is much more helpful regarding SEO, indexing, search console and ranking issues.
They're more helpful in these areas than SiteSupport. SiteSupport is only the best in managing hosting and technical issue, not these indexing and SEO issues.
So, this is another option for you.
Thank you Jerry, I'm currently using AIOSEO, I will have to think about that. Doesn't sound expensive anyway.
Jerry, the owners responded to me, I made the update on the question: Ahrefs vs semrush - why are the data so different?
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I think my site is being under attack because I'm getting a huge amount of backlinks to my site in the last 7 days totaling 8K backlinks.
I need to analyze them but the
Great to know that Kyle and Carson are already aware of things like this happening and can assure all of us. Keep going Grace
I am hoping that this will end soon for you Grace and for all of us who don’t want any in our community adversely affected!
Hope you get that straighten out, I'm of no help but keep notes so you can share with the rest of us when you know the answers.
It will be over. :) This is not the first time I have encounter problems in my journey. I will deal with it and move on.
Wish I could help you. There seems to be a lot of information below. Hope everything works out.
Grace,
Perhaps reaching out to WA-Site Support for assistance could be very helpful !?!?!?
ahrefs has better backlink data.
but Google Search console will tell you exactly what is linking to you.
I had to do a disavow list a few months ago for some negative seo i was getting.
If you need help, let me know
SEMRUSH has crappy backlink data
What do you think? I never paid much attention to backlinks, do you think a huge surge is negative SEO?
Search Console says 6.3K
it's only negative when it is from really crappy websites.
I cannot see yuor search console, but ahrefs shows about 2,200 backlinks to your site. from first glance it does not look too crappy.
but fixing negative SEO is a headache of all headaches. there is no real quick way to do it.
Go to the search console, then search analytics, links to your site.
download the table to an excel sheet. if you have a paid ahrefs account, dump all those in their batch analysis tool, order them by authority and literally sniff them out one by one.
finally create a disavow list and upload to the console.
at least that is what i did...
i'd rather jam a pen in my retina.
and typically you need a LOT of bad links for google to even consider them real links and have it affect your rankings.
have you noticed a rankings drop?
Ssearch console will also tell you via messages if you picked up a penalty or something.
an influx of links can happen. One time i commented on a blog once.... and got 1000+ links added to my site. but never notied a drop in rankings.
Google will ignore most spammy links. but those links can add up and effect rankings.
I also see this happen a lot when you ahve a lot of post getting no.1 overall rankings.
2.2K is referring domains right? I have 9K backlinks I thought.. see screenshot. Search console says 6.3K but that's 2 days delayed.
Absolutely NOT. Ignore the backlinks. Google over the last few years has awarded ZERO ranking juice to backlinks, unless the links are from a HIGHLY-AUTHORITATIVE website. I believe they made it this way for this very reason. If your site is under attack, with a competitor site using PBNs and a linking tool to spam your site with a massive amount of spammy, low quality links, then just ignore them. Google will award the links zero net value. Nothing will happen to your site's rankings.
ashred is probably right, yuo can largely ignore it. but as i said, IF you noticed stumped growth or rankings drops without reason, check that backlink profile.
if someone were truly attacking you, you would probably have more than 8k links... some people will send 100k links to your site trying to kill your rankings.
the numbers i was referring to was the "one link per domain" report. see screens below.
your backlinks naturally grow as your site becomes more of an authority.
if you do decide to disavow, be very careful when you disavow, yuo basically tell google to ignore any links from that ENTIRE DOMAIN, not just that one link.
plus it is harder to regain a link after you have told google to ignore it if you made a mistake and want the link back.
it is a whole can of worms and easy to see why Kyle does not even mention it in training, its a headache that can keep yuo from yuor primary focus which is creating content.
I have played with low quality PBNs recently, then I stopped for good. The links neither hurt nor helped my site. Pages that had links built to them are ranking just as good as the pages with ZERO links. Here is what Kyle says about backlinks, and I'm not just trying to be a "spambassador" here on WA looking for brownie points and giving cookie-cutter answers. I've really tested this out for awhile. Take a look: Are Backlinks Good for Rankings? Nope.
Thank you for all your help Chris! Do you like Ahrefs better than Semrush?
That's exactly what's happening, distracting me from my content creation. But this was alarming because I'm also being harassed on the daily on my blog this week so seemed more than coincidence that my backlinks are increasing by the thousands a day.
Thanks for the link, no pun intended. This makes me feel so much better. I think I've read that before too but with everything else going on this week (harassments daily this week and C&D letter in Aug), I'm freaking out a bit.
Also thanks for sharing your own experience as well which obviously confirms this so I should just go back to my real work which has been thrown off a bit here.
Can I ask you what the C&D letter told you Grace? Just to learn from it and see what to be aware of.
Thanks
I wouldn’t pay too much to the people harassing. It happens especially in your niche. Especially the bigger you get.
They wanted me to take down my review because they are saying it was untrue, defamatory, and misleading. The comments on that post from actual users confirms what I had said in my review.
I don't know if the C&D letter is real or not, it seemed like it.
I didn't take it down because I had #1 rankings on this product, I changed it to a review of that type of product vs using their name and dissecting it like I did.
I have no idea yet if they are still going to pursue anything as they haven't responded after this change. Last time it took them almost a month to respond, I had just try to modify my original review but of course nothing is going to satisfy them unless it's totally down.
So I shall see if my latest changes will be fine.
Yeah this week especially has not been fun though. I have never seen anything like what I'm experiencing.
Crazy. Thanks for sharing. Guess no one likes to be exposed when they are making good money on a scam. Hope you will be fine after the changes and keep your rankings for it.
Thank you for the advice. I just found my site has bad links and has submitted to disavow tool for the removal.
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Ahrefs vs semrush - why are the data so different?
I think my site is being under attack because I'm getting a huge amount of backlinks to my site in the last 7 days totaling 8K backlinks.
I need to analyze them but the
Great to know that Kyle and Carson are already aware of things like this happening and can assure all of us. Keep going Grace
I am hoping that this will end soon for you Grace and for all of us who don’t want any in our community adversely affected!
Hope you get that straighten out, I'm of no help but keep notes so you can share with the rest of us when you know the answers.
It will be over. :) This is not the first time I have encounter problems in my journey. I will deal with it and move on.
Wish I could help you. There seems to be a lot of information below. Hope everything works out.
Grace,
Perhaps reaching out to WA-Site Support for assistance could be very helpful !?!?!?
ahrefs has better backlink data.
but Google Search console will tell you exactly what is linking to you.
I had to do a disavow list a few months ago for some negative seo i was getting.
If you need help, let me know
SEMRUSH has crappy backlink data
What do you think? I never paid much attention to backlinks, do you think a huge surge is negative SEO?
Search Console says 6.3K
it's only negative when it is from really crappy websites.
I cannot see yuor search console, but ahrefs shows about 2,200 backlinks to your site. from first glance it does not look too crappy.
but fixing negative SEO is a headache of all headaches. there is no real quick way to do it.
Go to the search console, then search analytics, links to your site.
download the table to an excel sheet. if you have a paid ahrefs account, dump all those in their batch analysis tool, order them by authority and literally sniff them out one by one.
finally create a disavow list and upload to the console.
at least that is what i did...
i'd rather jam a pen in my retina.
and typically you need a LOT of bad links for google to even consider them real links and have it affect your rankings.
have you noticed a rankings drop?
Ssearch console will also tell you via messages if you picked up a penalty or something.
an influx of links can happen. One time i commented on a blog once.... and got 1000+ links added to my site. but never notied a drop in rankings.
Google will ignore most spammy links. but those links can add up and effect rankings.
I also see this happen a lot when you ahve a lot of post getting no.1 overall rankings.
2.2K is referring domains right? I have 9K backlinks I thought.. see screenshot. Search console says 6.3K but that's 2 days delayed.
Absolutely NOT. Ignore the backlinks. Google over the last few years has awarded ZERO ranking juice to backlinks, unless the links are from a HIGHLY-AUTHORITATIVE website. I believe they made it this way for this very reason. If your site is under attack, with a competitor site using PBNs and a linking tool to spam your site with a massive amount of spammy, low quality links, then just ignore them. Google will award the links zero net value. Nothing will happen to your site's rankings.
ashred is probably right, yuo can largely ignore it. but as i said, IF you noticed stumped growth or rankings drops without reason, check that backlink profile.
if someone were truly attacking you, you would probably have more than 8k links... some people will send 100k links to your site trying to kill your rankings.
the numbers i was referring to was the "one link per domain" report. see screens below.
your backlinks naturally grow as your site becomes more of an authority.
if you do decide to disavow, be very careful when you disavow, yuo basically tell google to ignore any links from that ENTIRE DOMAIN, not just that one link.
plus it is harder to regain a link after you have told google to ignore it if you made a mistake and want the link back.
it is a whole can of worms and easy to see why Kyle does not even mention it in training, its a headache that can keep yuo from yuor primary focus which is creating content.
I have played with low quality PBNs recently, then I stopped for good. The links neither hurt nor helped my site. Pages that had links built to them are ranking just as good as the pages with ZERO links. Here is what Kyle says about backlinks, and I'm not just trying to be a "spambassador" here on WA looking for brownie points and giving cookie-cutter answers. I've really tested this out for awhile. Take a look: Are Backlinks Good for Rankings? Nope.
Thank you for all your help Chris! Do you like Ahrefs better than Semrush?
That's exactly what's happening, distracting me from my content creation. But this was alarming because I'm also being harassed on the daily on my blog this week so seemed more than coincidence that my backlinks are increasing by the thousands a day.
Thanks for the link, no pun intended. This makes me feel so much better. I think I've read that before too but with everything else going on this week (harassments daily this week and C&D letter in Aug), I'm freaking out a bit.
Also thanks for sharing your own experience as well which obviously confirms this so I should just go back to my real work which has been thrown off a bit here.
Can I ask you what the C&D letter told you Grace? Just to learn from it and see what to be aware of.
Thanks
I wouldn’t pay too much to the people harassing. It happens especially in your niche. Especially the bigger you get.
They wanted me to take down my review because they are saying it was untrue, defamatory, and misleading. The comments on that post from actual users confirms what I had said in my review.
I don't know if the C&D letter is real or not, it seemed like it.
I didn't take it down because I had #1 rankings on this product, I changed it to a review of that type of product vs using their name and dissecting it like I did.
I have no idea yet if they are still going to pursue anything as they haven't responded after this change. Last time it took them almost a month to respond, I had just try to modify my original review but of course nothing is going to satisfy them unless it's totally down.
So I shall see if my latest changes will be fine.
Yeah this week especially has not been fun though. I have never seen anything like what I'm experiencing.
Crazy. Thanks for sharing. Guess no one likes to be exposed when they are making good money on a scam. Hope you will be fine after the changes and keep your rankings for it.
Thank you for the advice. I just found my site has bad links and has submitted to disavow tool for the removal.
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Hello WA members,
With my recent Vegas goal accomplished (https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/littlemama/blog/watch-out-vegas-littlemamas-coming-to-town), I'm willing to off
EVERYTHING! I want to know EVERYTHING!
I can only like this once, I want to like you 10 times!
I completely agree with Loes!
We want to know EVERYTHING!
Crushing it 10X with your Know How will be Massive!
Thank You Little Mama,
Tony
Hi Grace,
I have been following you through your journey! You have done really well! I guess my question is: Is your site only for promoting WA? Do you have any other sites in another niche? My problem is that I am not promoting WA. I have 4 websites in different niches, but cannot seem to get any of them off the ground.
If you only promote WA. what can you advise the rest of us that have niche sites? What are the 4 most important things to know in order to monetize? I will probably think of other things later, but thought I would throw this out since I am in discussion today! Thanks for trying to help many of us that are not there yet! You have a big heart! Take Care.
If you'll permit adding my 2 cents here, Connie:
As all the newbies when I started I made a mistake of creating too many websites, in fact even maintaining 2 websites without any help was a huge challenge. At the moment I have an Amazon niche website and a WA website but even with outsourcing some content, I find it challenging.
I learned that first you need to get 1 particular website off the ground and only then move on to the next. When you see cash flow, you can outsource and it definitely helps.
Hi,
Thank you for your comments. I do have 4 websites, but my husband and I are focusing on only one at the present time. We had 3 older sites, but we got an opportunity to start one that has very little competition, so we jumped on it! We are only writing for this site right now. I only mentioned all 4 because at some point we hope they all produce! Once we get this main one going, we will go back and rev up the other 3. Also, my husband and I work together on all of our sites. He is responsible for 2 and I am responsible for 2. But again, we are focusing on just this one at the present time. I just know this one is the one that will take off if we can just figure a few things out??
I am hoping Grace can shed some light on a few things we are having trouble with. Good Luck to you and take care.
Hi Grace. This is truly amazing!!!!
My most burning question would be what is the main driving force of traffic? Do you think just focusing on writing new posts consistently?
When you started out what was the point where you saw traffic increase which led to more sales etc.. What was like the break point.
I feel like I got stuck. Not able to get a breakthrough, but on the other hand not getting consistent with writing new posts.
Thanks,
I would like to learn how you get content for your business, is all done on your website or do you use social media as well?I am a complete newbie and need all the help I can get ,thanks
Florence
Post it to your website. Once you post it to your site, you can post it to your social media with a link to your site. It is a way to direct traffic to your website
You are truly generous if you are going to share all that - I have not even promoted WA yet as I am working a few other projects. It is on my to do list!!!
Any help is greatly appreciated before I take on this niche.
So coooool, I am looking forward to it so much!
What I would like to know:
Did you earn this amount of money only from promoting WA?
Have you written all 500 articles only about WA? - this can only be I guess if your previous answer is yes :)
Did you notice any difference in search engine appearance or sign ups when you happened to write less for a while (if at all you wrote less for a few weeks)?
I will surely have more questions :)
Thanks a lot for sharing, looking forward to it a lot :)
Hey Reka,
In case you missed Kyle's post explaining this, here it is: Vegas 2018. It Was Big. Vegas 2019 Will Be BIGGER.
Hi Trish,
I have seen that post, thanks.
I was just wondering if she wrote all those articles about WA for one website - just to see what is ahead of me to reach her level :)
Hallo Grace
I need A lot of help A ----Z type of help as I would like as you do to meet Kyle; Carson; Jay $ Littlemama in Vegas
Thank you so much for this TRAINING
Regards
David
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What do you want to know or learn about my online business?
Hello WA members,
With my recent Vegas goal accomplished (https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/littlemama/blog/watch-out-vegas-littlemamas-coming-to-town), I'm willing to off
EVERYTHING! I want to know EVERYTHING!
I can only like this once, I want to like you 10 times!
I completely agree with Loes!
We want to know EVERYTHING!
Crushing it 10X with your Know How will be Massive!
Thank You Little Mama,
Tony
Hi Grace,
I have been following you through your journey! You have done really well! I guess my question is: Is your site only for promoting WA? Do you have any other sites in another niche? My problem is that I am not promoting WA. I have 4 websites in different niches, but cannot seem to get any of them off the ground.
If you only promote WA. what can you advise the rest of us that have niche sites? What are the 4 most important things to know in order to monetize? I will probably think of other things later, but thought I would throw this out since I am in discussion today! Thanks for trying to help many of us that are not there yet! You have a big heart! Take Care.
If you'll permit adding my 2 cents here, Connie:
As all the newbies when I started I made a mistake of creating too many websites, in fact even maintaining 2 websites without any help was a huge challenge. At the moment I have an Amazon niche website and a WA website but even with outsourcing some content, I find it challenging.
I learned that first you need to get 1 particular website off the ground and only then move on to the next. When you see cash flow, you can outsource and it definitely helps.
Hi,
Thank you for your comments. I do have 4 websites, but my husband and I are focusing on only one at the present time. We had 3 older sites, but we got an opportunity to start one that has very little competition, so we jumped on it! We are only writing for this site right now. I only mentioned all 4 because at some point we hope they all produce! Once we get this main one going, we will go back and rev up the other 3. Also, my husband and I work together on all of our sites. He is responsible for 2 and I am responsible for 2. But again, we are focusing on just this one at the present time. I just know this one is the one that will take off if we can just figure a few things out??
I am hoping Grace can shed some light on a few things we are having trouble with. Good Luck to you and take care.
Hi Grace. This is truly amazing!!!!
My most burning question would be what is the main driving force of traffic? Do you think just focusing on writing new posts consistently?
When you started out what was the point where you saw traffic increase which led to more sales etc.. What was like the break point.
I feel like I got stuck. Not able to get a breakthrough, but on the other hand not getting consistent with writing new posts.
Thanks,
I would like to learn how you get content for your business, is all done on your website or do you use social media as well?I am a complete newbie and need all the help I can get ,thanks
Florence
Post it to your website. Once you post it to your site, you can post it to your social media with a link to your site. It is a way to direct traffic to your website
You are truly generous if you are going to share all that - I have not even promoted WA yet as I am working a few other projects. It is on my to do list!!!
Any help is greatly appreciated before I take on this niche.
So coooool, I am looking forward to it so much!
What I would like to know:
Did you earn this amount of money only from promoting WA?
Have you written all 500 articles only about WA? - this can only be I guess if your previous answer is yes :)
Did you notice any difference in search engine appearance or sign ups when you happened to write less for a while (if at all you wrote less for a few weeks)?
I will surely have more questions :)
Thanks a lot for sharing, looking forward to it a lot :)
Hey Reka,
In case you missed Kyle's post explaining this, here it is: Vegas 2018. It Was Big. Vegas 2019 Will Be BIGGER.
Hi Trish,
I have seen that post, thanks.
I was just wondering if she wrote all those articles about WA for one website - just to see what is ahead of me to reach her level :)
Hallo Grace
I need A lot of help A ----Z type of help as I would like as you do to meet Kyle; Carson; Jay $ Littlemama in Vegas
Thank you so much for this TRAINING
Regards
David
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What an interesting morning....
I woke up to a question of whether I was interested in selling my blog, long story short and a little back and forth, this person is will
If it continues to grow in traffic and revenue, Grace, it will be worth even more... Keep it and get yourself to vegas and then look at whether selling is an option..
Having a large sum of money and the know how to build a successful site will open a huge amount of opportunities.
Sounds like a plan Beau, definitely will be keep it going until I get to Vegas at least and then we'll see what happens, but the fun just started so I can't give it up now! :)
Even if you kept it longer and the site was all of a sudden worth say 20k USD, you could split that and build 2 more sites using aged domains, hire a team of writers, outreachers, outsource some SEO tasks and just manage them.. Before you know it your income has exploded.. You have more streams of income and have a diversified portfolio..
This is how you scale beyond your own limitations... Anyone saying out right no is not looking forwards enough.
I'm definitely open to my options but at this point, I know I can make more than what he's offering, so for now, I'll keep it until I get to Vegas for sure.
Glad you kept it! $15k might be tempting to some, but however much it generates for you, it has undoubtedly taken some time and effort to get it there. Don't know if you have other sites that are generating revenue, but if you don't, the odds of getting another up to the same level before that 15k is spent are kinda slim, lol. I might do it for 100k... But then again... Ha!
Yeah for $100K I would have probably let it go! LOL. I'll pay my own way to Vegas. :)
You're definitely right about finish spending that $15K before getting another blog up to this level.
Hi Grace. If you feel that this blog really represents you as an individual, plus taking into account the considerable amount of time that you have spent researching and then writing the articles, I wouldn't sell it.
Look at it this way as you say you are striving to get to Vegas. In accomplishing that feat you would have earned more money in your business by getting so many referrals that all upgraded to the premium, (or yearly) level that what this guy is willing to pay you, $15,000 would not come near to equaling the revenue with people in the future joining WA. You'd seriously be short-changing yourself, Grace.
Now of the guy had offered $150,000 only then perhaps should you at least begin to entertain the idea, lol!
P.S. Oh, I see that you decided to keep your website, Grace. You made the correct decision! Best of luck to you moving forward.
Jeff
Hi Jeff, yeah Kyle and Jay chimed in early on when I first posted so they reaffirmed what I thought.
You are right though, I know my blog can make much more than $15K, so I'm definitely keeping and I gotta meet the folks in Vegas! ;)
Thanks for your input!
Grace
I guess if you can easily bring your next site to this condition (looks like you can), you can consider selling. It's not wrong to get money along the way.But if it's the site you can't say goodbye to, maybe don't. Not an easy solution, certainly..And sure, congratulations on such an offer.:)
Thank you! I know I can build my next site much faster and earning quicker but I'm too close to Vegas to let my blog go now. I can taste Vegas!
Oh yes, I see.If money is not the issue right now(you won't earn this sum doing affiliate marketing this quickly, I believe), then just leave it.You can taste Vegas!:))
I actually will make more than $15K this year with my blog or at least in the next 12 months from today. I already hit 4 digits my blog last month and will again this month, which will still snowball in the coming months, so $15K is not much of an offer really.
If someone is offering you that much, that means they see it as being worth four or five times that much, or they see it's potential in the six or seven figures.
If you still like the niche and are able to create content by yourself or pay for it - then hold on to it.
I'd be willing to bet you can sell it for $100,000 in a few years if you keep working on it.
Don't give away your hard work for peanuts. ;-)
First of all great work getting an offer like this!!! :)
I completely agree with what Kyle said below. The only situation where I would consider selling is if I have several established websites that I was planning to sell one day anyway or if I would desperately need the cash or need to free up time I'm devoting to the website...
If you still are motivated by the niche and are able to produce content, attract visitors that convert, then keep it.
If you are already thinking of other niches and your mind is diverting in those directions while you work on your site, then sell.
You need to look at the income potential vs time. How long until your site makes $15K in affiliate earnings? How long did it take you to get to where you are now?
When you adjust for experience gained, it will most likely take a shorter time to get to this point if you start over.
It is never wrong to cash out.
But there are two big mistakes that every entrepreneur makes:
1 - Sell too soon
2 - Sell too late
It depends.
How is your income from the blog? What do you see as its potential for long-term earnings?
Is it worth $15,000 to have to start over with a new blog? If you do, you'll be competing with your old blog, right? Take that $15,000 + your earnings and divide it by the number of hours that you have invested in building your website. Remember, if you sell, you will immediately lose your current weekly/monthly earnings.
I would do some serious research on the value of your blog. There are many calculators out there that will give you the worth... I think I remember seeing something about it in google webmaster tools as well.
Please let us know what you ultimately decide. :)
I feel like you already have developed a good following and why would you want to stop now and give that to someone else? You worked hard to get to where you are and you should be the one to continue to see it grow even more. Unless of course you feel like you’re not doing as well with it as you would like and feel it would be better to pursue other options.
Exactly Erin, you're so right! My blog has only started bringing me a 4 digit income so I know it can make a lot more than $15K, this guy started at $9,200 too, he sounded desperate for my blog. Lol
That is something that you shouldn't even consider. I have never sold a website and I have no plans to. It is always much easier to scale and grow a website, than it is to sell it and create a new one.
Your website has the potential of that every month. :) Often times these offers are scams as well, I have seen many people fall into the trip. The fact they put a time limit on the sale of your website definitely has all of the red flags of being a scam.
Move on, continue building! You are onto much bigger and better things, including establishing a long term and very sustainable business online...one that will pay off for many years to come.
I'm so glad you commented Kyle, thanks very much and it's all I needed to hear. I didn't think I would sell it, but wanted to hear what you all had to say. This just confirms it for me. :)
Hey Grace,
I concur with Kyle...
If someone is truly interested in your site, they wouldn't put a fear mongering 24 hour countdown.
Thanks Jay! I'm not going to be scammed and I want to meet you guys in Vegas so I'm not going to be selling. Lol
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Do I sell my blog for $15,000?
What an interesting morning....
I woke up to a question of whether I was interested in selling my blog, long story short and a little back and forth, this person is will
If it continues to grow in traffic and revenue, Grace, it will be worth even more... Keep it and get yourself to vegas and then look at whether selling is an option..
Having a large sum of money and the know how to build a successful site will open a huge amount of opportunities.
Sounds like a plan Beau, definitely will be keep it going until I get to Vegas at least and then we'll see what happens, but the fun just started so I can't give it up now! :)
Even if you kept it longer and the site was all of a sudden worth say 20k USD, you could split that and build 2 more sites using aged domains, hire a team of writers, outreachers, outsource some SEO tasks and just manage them.. Before you know it your income has exploded.. You have more streams of income and have a diversified portfolio..
This is how you scale beyond your own limitations... Anyone saying out right no is not looking forwards enough.
I'm definitely open to my options but at this point, I know I can make more than what he's offering, so for now, I'll keep it until I get to Vegas for sure.
Glad you kept it! $15k might be tempting to some, but however much it generates for you, it has undoubtedly taken some time and effort to get it there. Don't know if you have other sites that are generating revenue, but if you don't, the odds of getting another up to the same level before that 15k is spent are kinda slim, lol. I might do it for 100k... But then again... Ha!
Yeah for $100K I would have probably let it go! LOL. I'll pay my own way to Vegas. :)
You're definitely right about finish spending that $15K before getting another blog up to this level.
Hi Grace. If you feel that this blog really represents you as an individual, plus taking into account the considerable amount of time that you have spent researching and then writing the articles, I wouldn't sell it.
Look at it this way as you say you are striving to get to Vegas. In accomplishing that feat you would have earned more money in your business by getting so many referrals that all upgraded to the premium, (or yearly) level that what this guy is willing to pay you, $15,000 would not come near to equaling the revenue with people in the future joining WA. You'd seriously be short-changing yourself, Grace.
Now of the guy had offered $150,000 only then perhaps should you at least begin to entertain the idea, lol!
P.S. Oh, I see that you decided to keep your website, Grace. You made the correct decision! Best of luck to you moving forward.
Jeff
Hi Jeff, yeah Kyle and Jay chimed in early on when I first posted so they reaffirmed what I thought.
You are right though, I know my blog can make much more than $15K, so I'm definitely keeping and I gotta meet the folks in Vegas! ;)
Thanks for your input!
Grace
I guess if you can easily bring your next site to this condition (looks like you can), you can consider selling. It's not wrong to get money along the way.But if it's the site you can't say goodbye to, maybe don't. Not an easy solution, certainly..And sure, congratulations on such an offer.:)
Thank you! I know I can build my next site much faster and earning quicker but I'm too close to Vegas to let my blog go now. I can taste Vegas!
Oh yes, I see.If money is not the issue right now(you won't earn this sum doing affiliate marketing this quickly, I believe), then just leave it.You can taste Vegas!:))
I actually will make more than $15K this year with my blog or at least in the next 12 months from today. I already hit 4 digits my blog last month and will again this month, which will still snowball in the coming months, so $15K is not much of an offer really.
If someone is offering you that much, that means they see it as being worth four or five times that much, or they see it's potential in the six or seven figures.
If you still like the niche and are able to create content by yourself or pay for it - then hold on to it.
I'd be willing to bet you can sell it for $100,000 in a few years if you keep working on it.
Don't give away your hard work for peanuts. ;-)
First of all great work getting an offer like this!!! :)
I completely agree with what Kyle said below. The only situation where I would consider selling is if I have several established websites that I was planning to sell one day anyway or if I would desperately need the cash or need to free up time I'm devoting to the website...
If you still are motivated by the niche and are able to produce content, attract visitors that convert, then keep it.
If you are already thinking of other niches and your mind is diverting in those directions while you work on your site, then sell.
You need to look at the income potential vs time. How long until your site makes $15K in affiliate earnings? How long did it take you to get to where you are now?
When you adjust for experience gained, it will most likely take a shorter time to get to this point if you start over.
It is never wrong to cash out.
But there are two big mistakes that every entrepreneur makes:
1 - Sell too soon
2 - Sell too late
It depends.
How is your income from the blog? What do you see as its potential for long-term earnings?
Is it worth $15,000 to have to start over with a new blog? If you do, you'll be competing with your old blog, right? Take that $15,000 + your earnings and divide it by the number of hours that you have invested in building your website. Remember, if you sell, you will immediately lose your current weekly/monthly earnings.
I would do some serious research on the value of your blog. There are many calculators out there that will give you the worth... I think I remember seeing something about it in google webmaster tools as well.
Please let us know what you ultimately decide. :)
I feel like you already have developed a good following and why would you want to stop now and give that to someone else? You worked hard to get to where you are and you should be the one to continue to see it grow even more. Unless of course you feel like you’re not doing as well with it as you would like and feel it would be better to pursue other options.
Exactly Erin, you're so right! My blog has only started bringing me a 4 digit income so I know it can make a lot more than $15K, this guy started at $9,200 too, he sounded desperate for my blog. Lol
That is something that you shouldn't even consider. I have never sold a website and I have no plans to. It is always much easier to scale and grow a website, than it is to sell it and create a new one.
Your website has the potential of that every month. :) Often times these offers are scams as well, I have seen many people fall into the trip. The fact they put a time limit on the sale of your website definitely has all of the red flags of being a scam.
Move on, continue building! You are onto much bigger and better things, including establishing a long term and very sustainable business online...one that will pay off for many years to come.
I'm so glad you commented Kyle, thanks very much and it's all I needed to hear. I didn't think I would sell it, but wanted to hear what you all had to say. This just confirms it for me. :)
Hey Grace,
I concur with Kyle...
If someone is truly interested in your site, they wouldn't put a fear mongering 24 hour countdown.
Thanks Jay! I'm not going to be scammed and I want to meet you guys in Vegas so I'm not going to be selling. Lol
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The comment system may have been upgraded but the quality of comments are still terribly low. Still a lot of people wasting their time reviewing sites and giving incredibly fake and ungenuine looking comments.
That was the real problem with the original system - folks trying to game it get a quick point (or buck) as fast as they can and next article.
Essentially no interaction with the articles and generic comments left. Hardly surprising when the commenter evidently has not read the article that they are supposed to be commenting on.
Honestly, if you want average or low quality comments that are barely better than spam bots use the comments engine!.
Oddly, back in the day some 3 years or so back the quality was actually good, folks actually read and interacted with the content. This was before the previous change where the ability to buy comments was added.
Hi Derek, I find these experiences odd since there is an approval process in place to weed out the bad commenters and if they get enough of it, they will not have the "Certified commenter" status and will not be able to earn eventually if they kept that up.
Why do you think the quality continues to be bad if there is an approval process?
A lot of new members or inexperienced will accept and approve any comment that comes their way, regardless of quality. I don't think it takes much to be certified commenter...
Yeah that doesn’t help. Thanks Derek! Nice new pic by the way. 😍😍