Hey WA'rriors,
Seeking your help here.
I need to track clicks and conversions on GA4, but there's limited info I found, or it's too complicated for me.
C
If my memory serves me correctly, you can't set up 'Goal,' tracking using GA4 (GA1 yes, but it no longer exist) GA4 is supposed to be better, but there's no 'Goals' tracking feature to use.
I really don't like it that much, just for that reason.
Indeed you can't, I used that word to make sense because I got the feeling people could misunderstand what exactly I'm seeking help with.
Hi Zarina
I see you've been around for a while so the following short intro might not be needed...
Originally there was GA1 and we're now up to GA4 (Google Analytics 4)
Also, the Google Analytics App was originally created for gathering Google Search information and is still provided free to users. Over time, the Google Search Console (now often just called Search Console) was developed separately for delivering additional reports and services to Google Analytics users.
This is why you need to:
1. First set up a Google Analytics account and then
2. Set up a Search Console account.
Your GA4 account needs to be connected to your website, and your Search Console account needs to be connected to your Google Analytics account.
It sounds complicated, in part because there are a number of different ways to achieve this. It's not complex if you do it step by step. Send me a PM if you want to learn how I do this.
:-)
Richard
Thanks Richard, thanks for commenting. That's not the issue I have.
Like you've noticed I've been at it for several years, and of course I have GA4 and GSC set up, I need help with tracking conversions, events, goals inside the GA4 or Google Tag Manager.
i could recommend burst statistics plugin - a plugin that acts like google analytics and is a lot easier to use...
it is gdpr compliant....
there are a few - independent analytics is a nother i have played with ... but prefer burst...
I'm with you on that: "My head is like this...", Zarina.
Am hoping Google will simplify GA4 real soon.
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Can anyone help with tracking clicks/events/conversions on ga4?
Hey WA'rriors,
Seeking your help here.
I need to track clicks and conversions on GA4, but there's limited info I found, or it's too complicated for me.
C
Remember that GA4 was not designed to track conversions for affiliate programs in affiliate networks or even on in-house programs. Do not expect those numbers to match what is reported in your affiliate accounts; they rarely will.
If my memory serves me correctly, you can't set up 'Goal,' tracking using GA4 (GA1 yes, but it no longer exist) GA4 is supposed to be better, but there's no 'Goals' tracking feature to use.
I really don't like it that much, just for that reason.
Indeed you can't, I used that word to make sense because I got the feeling people could misunderstand what exactly I'm seeking help with.
Hi Zarina
I see you've been around for a while so the following short intro might not be needed...
Originally there was GA1 and we're now up to GA4 (Google Analytics 4)
Also, the Google Analytics App was originally created for gathering Google Search information and is still provided free to users. Over time, the Google Search Console (now often just called Search Console) was developed separately for delivering additional reports and services to Google Analytics users.
This is why you need to:
1. First set up a Google Analytics account and then
2. Set up a Search Console account.
Your GA4 account needs to be connected to your website, and your Search Console account needs to be connected to your Google Analytics account.
It sounds complicated, in part because there are a number of different ways to achieve this. It's not complex if you do it step by step. Send me a PM if you want to learn how I do this.
:-)
Richard
Thanks Richard, thanks for commenting. That's not the issue I have.
Like you've noticed I've been at it for several years, and of course I have GA4 and GSC set up, I need help with tracking conversions, events, goals inside the GA4 or Google Tag Manager.
i could recommend burst statistics plugin - a plugin that acts like google analytics and is a lot easier to use...
it is gdpr compliant....
there are a few - independent analytics is a nother i have played with ... but prefer burst...
I'm with you on that: "My head is like this...", Zarina.
Am hoping Google will simplify GA4 real soon.
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Hi folks,
Just wanted to ask for your advice, especially if you understand anything about poker.
So, i've had a poker Instagram account for quite a while, mostly s
You have solid reels and instagram content, so it’s just a matter of choosing the items your want to promote. Whether it be poker strategy guides (from other poker experts OR your own guide to winning with your own insights), to poker “gear” from custom decks to chips to tables, etc…
Players are always looking to get better, so if you’ve been playing successfully for a while double down on that :)
How would you monetize a poker instagram account?
Hi folks,
Just wanted to ask for your advice, especially if you understand anything about poker.
So, i've had a poker Instagram account for quite a while, mostly s
You have solid reels and instagram content, so it’s just a matter of choosing the items your want to promote. Whether it be poker strategy guides (from other poker experts OR your own guide to winning with your own insights), to poker “gear” from custom decks to chips to tables, etc…
Players are always looking to get better, so if you’ve been playing successfully for a while double down on that :)
Hey guys,
Seeking advice here. So I have the main site that I work on and I was thinking of publishing some of the articles on my main site BUT they are not related to my
The following post can help:
https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2016/09/08/why-create-content-outside-your-niche
Tom
I like this quote from the blog. It's a useful guideline to follow:
"
Proceed With Caution
I can't leave without issuing one warning about off-topic posts: Don't overdo it.
The worst thing you can do is to lose focus. To prevent this, I'd suggest following the 80-20 rule, where 80% of the content you create covers your money "bread and butter" topics, and the remaining 20% of your efforts go toward off-topic content to establish yourself in a new niche.
"
Awesome article, thank you! Gave me perspective but would still love to hear from more folks here about their experience/thoughts.
Is there a clever way to tie the topics together at all?
For example, I like to review software that may not always be directly related to my niche. But I figured out if I called out that it has an affiliate program, then I could tie the two niches together.
Based on my experience, I've noticed my content ranks when the content is good and the keyword is low comp. Even if the topic doesn't appear to be directly related. For instance, I ranked for domain name generator tool but my site is about affiliate marketing. So you and I know they can be related, but does Google? The content ranked anyway (and still does today...). However, you have to be careful because from a visitors perspective, you don't want to confuse them.
Example: You visit my site titled: http://makemoneyonline.com because you found my ranked post titled: best healthy shake for morning breakfast.
If you could tie it in (health) for how you take care of yourself in order to make money online, "here's what I do as an entrepreneur to stay healthy" or "7 tips to stay a healthy MMO entrepreneur".
I think you could get away with this but I haven't tried 2 completely opposite topics to know from experience. As Google cracks down more and more, the safest way to do this is to put your site visitor experience first. With some creativity, think about how you can tie in the topics together to leverage your good G juice of your current site.
Will be interesting to see what others say. I expect some here to say "no don't do that", but a new challenge is always an opportunity to do something new and potentially create a new strategy that works!
What do you think?
Kim
I would think domain name generator would be relevant to affiliate marketing as well as most any niche. Every website has to have a name and anything that helps find a good name would be helpful whether your site is about golf or vegan food
Yep, mentioned that. Makes sense from a user experience standpoint...Not sure if Google sees that connection but it works anyways...
Hi Kim, good to hear from you!
Great input. That's the thing, I don't really think those two could be tied together, because main niche is tech gear related but the second is not though it does have some advanced technologies involved.
Actually, some of the articles would be more sports related, so technically if they are interested in both sports and the other activity (I think you know which activity/niche I'm referring to), then this way I could reach a bigger audience as seen in that article shared below.
Hmm.... I mean it COULD potentially be tied together but question is whether Google will appreciate that. As for the name of my site, it's kinda confusing, some people thought I'm in the beauty niche even though I'm nowhere close to it.
After writing this all, I remembered that there is a great site that covers my main niche topic AND travel/sports/outdoor gear guides. But I'm guessing they have HUGE authority and been around for many many years. (Mine will only turn 3 this October.)
Decisions decisions :)
P.S. I agree with Neil, your generator tool does kinda tie in together within the affiliate marketing niche imho.
No doubt you'll make the right decision. Since you see another site doing something similar, I'd go for it. That's just me.
In my opinion, I think google may go haywire. Google seems to freak out when we go off the beaten path. But this is just my experience and I have no evidence to back this up. I bet someone will be able to give you some better data to back this up.
But can you add a subdomain and post under that? Wondering if that will help keep Google on track.
Laura
I think it will still be like a "new" site if I add a subdomain + it's kinda too much work lol. I have the site that I could use for those articles but it probably won't rank by the time winter time is around.
Google is a mystery. The best bet is for you to try it and see what happens. I see websites publishing niche-unrelated articles all the time.
If you don't like the results, you can always undo what you did. Google Search console also has a removal request to remove posts from their index.
I had a post on my country-specific-domain MMO site targeting an affiliate marketing keyword. This was supposed to be my pillar post but google ranked an article I didn't intend on ahead of this pillar post. The pillar post was essentially invisible to Google (properly keyword cannibalisation)
After a year of virtually no traffic, I deleted that article from my MMO website and published it on my travel website in January with no internal or external links to it. Last month, that article surpassed the unintended article on my MMO website in the SERPs (both on page 1 for the targeted keyword) and is gaining impressions for far more keywords.
The article is totally unrelated to previously published content.
Hope that helps.
Oh there's definitely not gonna be any cannibalization but good to know and thank you for sharing your experience Lebogang!
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Several articles unrelated to my main niche topic?
Hey guys,
Seeking advice here. So I have the main site that I work on and I was thinking of publishing some of the articles on my main site BUT they are not related to my
The following post can help:
https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2016/09/08/why-create-content-outside-your-niche
Tom
I like this quote from the blog. It's a useful guideline to follow:
"
Proceed With Caution
I can't leave without issuing one warning about off-topic posts: Don't overdo it.
The worst thing you can do is to lose focus. To prevent this, I'd suggest following the 80-20 rule, where 80% of the content you create covers your money "bread and butter" topics, and the remaining 20% of your efforts go toward off-topic content to establish yourself in a new niche.
"
Awesome article, thank you! Gave me perspective but would still love to hear from more folks here about their experience/thoughts.
Is there a clever way to tie the topics together at all?
For example, I like to review software that may not always be directly related to my niche. But I figured out if I called out that it has an affiliate program, then I could tie the two niches together.
Based on my experience, I've noticed my content ranks when the content is good and the keyword is low comp. Even if the topic doesn't appear to be directly related. For instance, I ranked for domain name generator tool but my site is about affiliate marketing. So you and I know they can be related, but does Google? The content ranked anyway (and still does today...). However, you have to be careful because from a visitors perspective, you don't want to confuse them.
Example: You visit my site titled: http://makemoneyonline.com because you found my ranked post titled: best healthy shake for morning breakfast.
If you could tie it in (health) for how you take care of yourself in order to make money online, "here's what I do as an entrepreneur to stay healthy" or "7 tips to stay a healthy MMO entrepreneur".
I think you could get away with this but I haven't tried 2 completely opposite topics to know from experience. As Google cracks down more and more, the safest way to do this is to put your site visitor experience first. With some creativity, think about how you can tie in the topics together to leverage your good G juice of your current site.
Will be interesting to see what others say. I expect some here to say "no don't do that", but a new challenge is always an opportunity to do something new and potentially create a new strategy that works!
What do you think?
Kim
I would think domain name generator would be relevant to affiliate marketing as well as most any niche. Every website has to have a name and anything that helps find a good name would be helpful whether your site is about golf or vegan food
Yep, mentioned that. Makes sense from a user experience standpoint...Not sure if Google sees that connection but it works anyways...
Hi Kim, good to hear from you!
Great input. That's the thing, I don't really think those two could be tied together, because main niche is tech gear related but the second is not though it does have some advanced technologies involved.
Actually, some of the articles would be more sports related, so technically if they are interested in both sports and the other activity (I think you know which activity/niche I'm referring to), then this way I could reach a bigger audience as seen in that article shared below.
Hmm.... I mean it COULD potentially be tied together but question is whether Google will appreciate that. As for the name of my site, it's kinda confusing, some people thought I'm in the beauty niche even though I'm nowhere close to it.
After writing this all, I remembered that there is a great site that covers my main niche topic AND travel/sports/outdoor gear guides. But I'm guessing they have HUGE authority and been around for many many years. (Mine will only turn 3 this October.)
Decisions decisions :)
P.S. I agree with Neil, your generator tool does kinda tie in together within the affiliate marketing niche imho.
No doubt you'll make the right decision. Since you see another site doing something similar, I'd go for it. That's just me.
In my opinion, I think google may go haywire. Google seems to freak out when we go off the beaten path. But this is just my experience and I have no evidence to back this up. I bet someone will be able to give you some better data to back this up.
But can you add a subdomain and post under that? Wondering if that will help keep Google on track.
Laura
I think it will still be like a "new" site if I add a subdomain + it's kinda too much work lol. I have the site that I could use for those articles but it probably won't rank by the time winter time is around.
Google is a mystery. The best bet is for you to try it and see what happens. I see websites publishing niche-unrelated articles all the time.
If you don't like the results, you can always undo what you did. Google Search console also has a removal request to remove posts from their index.
I had a post on my country-specific-domain MMO site targeting an affiliate marketing keyword. This was supposed to be my pillar post but google ranked an article I didn't intend on ahead of this pillar post. The pillar post was essentially invisible to Google (properly keyword cannibalisation)
After a year of virtually no traffic, I deleted that article from my MMO website and published it on my travel website in January with no internal or external links to it. Last month, that article surpassed the unintended article on my MMO website in the SERPs (both on page 1 for the targeted keyword) and is gaining impressions for far more keywords.
The article is totally unrelated to previously published content.
Hope that helps.
Oh there's definitely not gonna be any cannibalization but good to know and thank you for sharing your experience Lebogang!
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Hi,
I found several articles copied word for word on one site and I was thinking of just hiring someone to do all the takedown job for me.
Has anyone used the pai
It'll be easier to search "what is DMCA" in google than me trying to explain here.. but if you don't have any people stealing your content, you shouldn't worry about it.
Hi Zarina,
I haven't been in the position you are in so I've never had to get this done. I have heard of these services and I believe they cost near $200 per site. I understand your anger and frustration. Wish I could be of more help.
Greg
Yeah, the DMCA site charges that amount but I was wondering if it's worth going that route. And I can't recall who went through this takedown process recently
A quick legal standard letter drawn up quite cheaply can just be sent via email and they usually change it straight away. Its the fastest and cheapest way and genreally does not need a follow up. Good luck..
It seems that they just submit stolen content every few seconds, so one of the Super WA affiliates told me it's not worth bothering over that site, it shouldn't hurt my site. 🤷♀️ And def not worth spending $200 on DMCA takedown services
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Did anyone use paid dmca takedown services?
Hi,
I found several articles copied word for word on one site and I was thinking of just hiring someone to do all the takedown job for me.
Has anyone used the pai
It'll be easier to search "what is DMCA" in google than me trying to explain here.. but if you don't have any people stealing your content, you shouldn't worry about it.
Hi Zarina,
I haven't been in the position you are in so I've never had to get this done. I have heard of these services and I believe they cost near $200 per site. I understand your anger and frustration. Wish I could be of more help.
Greg
Yeah, the DMCA site charges that amount but I was wondering if it's worth going that route. And I can't recall who went through this takedown process recently
A quick legal standard letter drawn up quite cheaply can just be sent via email and they usually change it straight away. Its the fastest and cheapest way and genreally does not need a follow up. Good luck..
It seems that they just submit stolen content every few seconds, so one of the Super WA affiliates told me it's not worth bothering over that site, it shouldn't hurt my site. 🤷♀️ And def not worth spending $200 on DMCA takedown services
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I came across a site which looks like outsourced content (pop times uk dot com) and they have stolen my article word for word, with the same structure, coding stuff etc.
Sorry this happened to you Zarina. There's a plugin called "Secure Copy Content Protection" and it keeps people from copying your content.
I agree with what everyone else is saying and I think you should give the owners maybe a deadline of a week or so to remove the content. And if it's still there, then move forward with DMCA.
Best wishes,
James
This is terrible. I think I would use the plugin that stops people copying your work,going forward.
Hi - I had a look at the site and picked 5 articles at random to check. They were all entirely copied and pasted. I suspect they are using some kind of program that just curates posts from other websites. The site was only created on 16 June, so they have just filled it with other people's content.
Yeah, it seems so! One of the super WA'ers said it's not worth losing nerves, it shouldn't hurt my site as it's ENTIRELY stolen content, published like every 10 seconds. Definitely not worth paying $200 for DMCA services.
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Filing dmca for stolen content or contacting the site owner?
I came across a site which looks like outsourced content (pop times uk dot com) and they have stolen my article word for word, with the same structure, coding stuff etc.
Sorry this happened to you Zarina. There's a plugin called "Secure Copy Content Protection" and it keeps people from copying your content.
I agree with what everyone else is saying and I think you should give the owners maybe a deadline of a week or so to remove the content. And if it's still there, then move forward with DMCA.
Best wishes,
James
This is terrible. I think I would use the plugin that stops people copying your work,going forward.
Hi - I had a look at the site and picked 5 articles at random to check. They were all entirely copied and pasted. I suspect they are using some kind of program that just curates posts from other websites. The site was only created on 16 June, so they have just filled it with other people's content.
Yeah, it seems so! One of the super WA'ers said it's not worth losing nerves, it shouldn't hurt my site as it's ENTIRELY stolen content, published like every 10 seconds. Definitely not worth paying $200 for DMCA services.
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Remember that GA4 was not designed to track conversions for affiliate programs in affiliate networks or even on in-house programs. Do not expect those numbers to match what is reported in your affiliate accounts; they rarely will.