Not indexed... so what is the use... i am going to remove all google stuff, no use
Have two sites without google, no worries, and performing well
And the only stu
Hi Fleeky
Google still provides most of my traffic, even after their helpful content update massacre.
They are indexing and ranking my AI content.
I don’t think Google would index a lot of the purely AI-generated posts on WA, and I’m not talking about any particular WA member.
I only get about 600 views a month from Bing on my guitar site. I started taking Pinterest more seriously, and my impressions are rising.
YouTube is an excellent choice because interactive video is where the internet is heading, in my opinion.
Paid ads can be the easiest and most profitable if you have the money to invest.
Luckily, I’m not trying to replace a full-time income. 😎
Frank 🎸
Ty Frankfor sharing
AI is not the problem..
There is no indexing
outdated, not accurate
Irrelevant
Full of bugs
Search results look like my spam box
Hi Fleeky
I do see "AI used incorrectly" as part of the problem. It can give people the "illusion" of expertise, a word that is used all too frequently today.
I read long pieces of content on the Internet that contain multiple inaccuracies and are obviously written by AI. If I point out an error or ask a question, the answer to my comment is written in AI and does not provide the proper information or clarification.
This can make it more challenging for those of us who are providing high-quality content.
In addition, Google is basing its search results on the fact that more and more users search on mobile phones and want results that provide quick answers with a consensus of opinion (i.e., user-generated content).
People are typing in search phrases like "my query Reddit" or "my query Quora," and Google took notice.
In my niche, the Google SERPs seem to generally contain more thin content with high domain authority on page one.
Just my opinion, of course. 😎
Frank 🎸
Hey Fleeky,
Google even makes it as difficult as possible for me now to use their search engine simply because I have found it necessary to have a VPN installed to protect my privacy and the privacy of my paying client's.
I've found Bing and DuckDuckGo awesome to work with and 9 times out of 10, I get quicker solutions offered in THEIR SERPs as compared to what Google USED to offer me... especially when seeking answers to techie type questions.
So... nope... you're not alone.
Thank YOU for making me feel a whole lot better about my decision too. LOL!
Whenever I need a Google search result... I simply use StartPage.com which is a search engine that will keep YOUR search private to Google. So, you might want to check them out too. ;-)
Ditto...The Duck is great to use, easy to customize your settings, too.
Some websites wont open certain tools if they dont recognize a non-chrome browser. When that happens, use Brave.
What for a new browser coming up called ARC.
Im awaiting receipt for beta testing.
Rudy
Good tip about Brave, Rudy... 'cause Google's Chrome is not allowed on my business computer. It hasn't been allowed since they released it, simply due to privacy.
ARC, eh? Cool... thanks for THAT "heads up!" Keep me posted on your beta test results, please?
Yes... so rightly said.
Ty for sharing
Same with amazon, killing all their small affiliates, leaving that as well and no longer buying from them either.
No respect
Hey Rudy,
This is where CCleaner comes in good use! Used on a regular basis... it cleans EVERYTHING in history, cookies, etc... providing you have the setting set to do that.
Too much software now holding history. I've had issues with Outlook due to history stored from Word and Skype. Go figure!
Hi Trish!
I used to use CCCleaner, together with IObit products.
Now I use AVG. They have a VPN as well.
I am a Mastermind member, and for some reason, best results are through (of course) Chrome.
To offset this, I use private Firefox browser to access their Ai, GG.
Rudy
I too am frustrated. I have nearly 80 posts, but only 34 indexed. When you say you are performing well, what do you mean...hundreds of visitors, etc.?
Good luck.
Make sure you're not posting AI generated content, Google doesn't indexed them, unlike what some claim.
According to this source it would appear that google does rank good content https://wordlift.io/blog/en/can-ai-content-rank-on-google/
I’m not the last word on this subject by any means just adding to the well.
Cheers
Selling my google assets... and using different analytics
Getting rid of the google bs
Enough
Al those businesses in the world, smashed and crumbled. Dictatorship in disguise.
Thanks. I do have some AI generated text that is then pasted onto a Word document. It is then copy/pasted into Site Content?
I agree Catherine. I have AI articles on my guitar site and they are all indexed and ranked by Google.
The key (for me) is to rewrite parts of the content to make them unique, useful, and appealing to human readers.
So they are not AI generated because you rewrite them! You only use AI to make basic research, it's different from posting AI generated content.
Google certainly does index AI content. I have several sites with AI content, and both are getting indexed. One of them is a test site with 100% AI content that I've edited somewhat, and 100% of those posts are indexed.
Here’s a summary of how I use AI on my site.
I use AI to generate the outline and about 80% of the content for my article.
Then I read the article the way I would if I paid someone to write it for me.
I remove, rearrange, and reword whatever is inaccurate, inappropriate, and doesn’t sound like something I would write.
When, I’m satisfied with that, I add whatever text I think is missing, along with AI generated images and tables, where appropriate and useful.
It’s still a time saver for me.
The majority of writers I could outsource to are using AI, so I would have to go through the same process.
Frank 🎸
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Are there others regarding google indexing?
Not indexed... so what is the use... i am going to remove all google stuff, no use
Have two sites without google, no worries, and performing well
And the only stu
You have FANTASTIC responses here; kindly let us know if you require additional assistance.
Hi Fleeky
Google still provides most of my traffic, even after their helpful content update massacre.
They are indexing and ranking my AI content.
I don’t think Google would index a lot of the purely AI-generated posts on WA, and I’m not talking about any particular WA member.
I only get about 600 views a month from Bing on my guitar site. I started taking Pinterest more seriously, and my impressions are rising.
YouTube is an excellent choice because interactive video is where the internet is heading, in my opinion.
Paid ads can be the easiest and most profitable if you have the money to invest.
Luckily, I’m not trying to replace a full-time income. 😎
Frank 🎸
Ty Frankfor sharing
AI is not the problem..
There is no indexing
outdated, not accurate
Irrelevant
Full of bugs
Search results look like my spam box
Hi Fleeky
I do see "AI used incorrectly" as part of the problem. It can give people the "illusion" of expertise, a word that is used all too frequently today.
I read long pieces of content on the Internet that contain multiple inaccuracies and are obviously written by AI. If I point out an error or ask a question, the answer to my comment is written in AI and does not provide the proper information or clarification.
This can make it more challenging for those of us who are providing high-quality content.
In addition, Google is basing its search results on the fact that more and more users search on mobile phones and want results that provide quick answers with a consensus of opinion (i.e., user-generated content).
People are typing in search phrases like "my query Reddit" or "my query Quora," and Google took notice.
In my niche, the Google SERPs seem to generally contain more thin content with high domain authority on page one.
Just my opinion, of course. 😎
Frank 🎸
Hey Fleeky,
Google even makes it as difficult as possible for me now to use their search engine simply because I have found it necessary to have a VPN installed to protect my privacy and the privacy of my paying client's.
I've found Bing and DuckDuckGo awesome to work with and 9 times out of 10, I get quicker solutions offered in THEIR SERPs as compared to what Google USED to offer me... especially when seeking answers to techie type questions.
So... nope... you're not alone.
Thank YOU for making me feel a whole lot better about my decision too. LOL!
Whenever I need a Google search result... I simply use StartPage.com which is a search engine that will keep YOUR search private to Google. So, you might want to check them out too. ;-)
Ditto...The Duck is great to use, easy to customize your settings, too.
Some websites wont open certain tools if they dont recognize a non-chrome browser. When that happens, use Brave.
What for a new browser coming up called ARC.
Im awaiting receipt for beta testing.
Rudy
Good tip about Brave, Rudy... 'cause Google's Chrome is not allowed on my business computer. It hasn't been allowed since they released it, simply due to privacy.
ARC, eh? Cool... thanks for THAT "heads up!" Keep me posted on your beta test results, please?
Yes... so rightly said.
Ty for sharing
Same with amazon, killing all their small affiliates, leaving that as well and no longer buying from them either.
No respect
Hey Rudy,
This is where CCleaner comes in good use! Used on a regular basis... it cleans EVERYTHING in history, cookies, etc... providing you have the setting set to do that.
Too much software now holding history. I've had issues with Outlook due to history stored from Word and Skype. Go figure!
Hi Trish!
I used to use CCCleaner, together with IObit products.
Now I use AVG. They have a VPN as well.
I am a Mastermind member, and for some reason, best results are through (of course) Chrome.
To offset this, I use private Firefox browser to access their Ai, GG.
Rudy
I too am frustrated. I have nearly 80 posts, but only 34 indexed. When you say you are performing well, what do you mean...hundreds of visitors, etc.?
Good luck.
Make sure you're not posting AI generated content, Google doesn't indexed them, unlike what some claim.
According to this source it would appear that google does rank good content https://wordlift.io/blog/en/can-ai-content-rank-on-google/
I’m not the last word on this subject by any means just adding to the well.
Cheers
Selling my google assets... and using different analytics
Getting rid of the google bs
Enough
Al those businesses in the world, smashed and crumbled. Dictatorship in disguise.
Thanks. I do have some AI generated text that is then pasted onto a Word document. It is then copy/pasted into Site Content?
I agree Catherine. I have AI articles on my guitar site and they are all indexed and ranked by Google.
The key (for me) is to rewrite parts of the content to make them unique, useful, and appealing to human readers.
So they are not AI generated because you rewrite them! You only use AI to make basic research, it's different from posting AI generated content.
Google certainly does index AI content. I have several sites with AI content, and both are getting indexed. One of them is a test site with 100% AI content that I've edited somewhat, and 100% of those posts are indexed.
Here’s a summary of how I use AI on my site.
I use AI to generate the outline and about 80% of the content for my article.
Then I read the article the way I would if I paid someone to write it for me.
I remove, rearrange, and reword whatever is inaccurate, inappropriate, and doesn’t sound like something I would write.
When, I’m satisfied with that, I add whatever text I think is missing, along with AI generated images and tables, where appropriate and useful.
It’s still a time saver for me.
The majority of writers I could outsource to are using AI, so I would have to go through the same process.
Frank 🎸
See more comments
I noticed many members are telling us about referrals with "qsdfghtls" names.
Hard to believe those people are real. Looks like bots.
What are views on these?
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There will always be bots online. Just the nature of our business. When they’re leaving comments on your content you can block by IP address. But if they’re arriving here as a referral, it’s nothing to really worry about. Focus on what you can control which are the real referrals asking for guidance and support 👍🏼
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Regarding referrals here on wa?
I noticed many members are telling us about referrals with "qsdfghtls" names.
Hard to believe those people are real. Looks like bots.
What are views on these?
<
There will always be bots online. Just the nature of our business. When they’re leaving comments on your content you can block by IP address. But if they’re arriving here as a referral, it’s nothing to really worry about. Focus on what you can control which are the real referrals asking for guidance and support 👍🏼
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Can we use our own apis in site content to generate content?
Can we? And how would we? We don't have access to the servers...
What would be the purpose and end game? How would we benefit?
Regarding site content and ai apis?
Can we use our own apis in site content to generate content?
Can we? And how would we? We don't have access to the servers...
What would be the purpose and end game? How would we benefit?
Does it allow cron?
C-panel ?
Access to system files?
And is it integrated within the WA hub?
Ty
They do allow a Cron even with the free hosting, Fleeky, as I was using a data feed and I needed the Cron turned on. However, I ended up using too much data and had my traffic restricted. You also have a good chance of the Cron being turned off unexpectedly.
I now have my own dedicated server, but not at Wealthy Affiliate, as that wasn't available at the time. I believe that Partha is correct in what he is saying, as usual!😎
The part that would concern me if I had a dedicated server here is that I may have to send 100 messages to get an answer. Especially if I had two questions within one message!
I hope this helps.
Roy
Yes, came to same conclusion
too restricted, which does not always work
This being said , i am very happy hear, let that be said loud and clear
It may be worth sending Kyle a private message as they may well prioritise members with a dedicated server. I did hear one successful member who has a dedicated server from WA, say that he left all the technical bits to the technical team as he didn't have that type of knowledge!
I probably should have mentioned the above in my first comment. I just want to give a balanced and fair view.
I have a Webmaster in the US who deals with the technical stuff and the dedicated server, so it's slightly different for me.
I hope you come to the right decision, Fleeky!
I'm here to help if you have any questions.
Roy
Hey Fleeky,
Everyone who ISN'T Kyle or Carson will provide answer based on ASSUMPTIONS.
Unfortunately, some "assumptions" are completely incorrect, as evidenced in this very question thread (realistically, this is a "not understanding the question, so why would you answer it in the first place? But I'm not here to pass judgement!!! Hahahaha!!)
My ASSUMPTION would be NO, None of the Above!
WA hosting is "simple and easy" because it is "controlled" by the SiteSupport.
Therefore, those of us used to C-panel may potentially not like this sense of "control"very much.
Those who are completely new to websites, don't even know the difference, would feel very lost using "normal" hosting with cpanel, etc.
However, my ASSUMPTION is that WA will always retain "control" over what can be done with the hosting, therefore any hosting issues or changes, you will ALWAYS have to go to SiteSupport regardless of your level of membership.
In my mind, the dedicated server means simply that, YOU have your OWN server JUST for YOUR websites.
Currently, everyone is on shared servers, and there are only a few servers currently used by WA.
This will often explain why say 30% of members ALL have the same problem with WordPress or hosting one day, but the other 70% of the platform don't have this issue.
The 30% are ON THE SAME SERVER, hence why they are all experiencing the SAME problems.
So, for me, and my ASSUMPTION, a "Dedicated Server" with WA hosting gives you nothing more than those TWO WORDS - you have a SERVER totally DEDICATED to YOU!! Everything else stays EXACTLY THE SAME!!!
Partha
I am a bit confused, but as I to understand now, you say, Fleeky, I better stay with my platform within WA?
And not go to ONE.?
It depends on what you want, if you have a team that can manage the maintenance of your server they will prefer to manage their own. If you do not know what or how, and are alone in this, wa is the best option since you,are fully backed up by site support
I am using one indeed, it has a c panel and allows full access to the database. MEaning you can drive your own.
I am also using fastcomet, which is more sophisticated.
Both require understanding since you manage it
Here on wa it is managed for you
Hi - no, I don't believe so.
Looking at the upgrade page, the only differences seem to be the ability to host 50 sites, have one million monthly visitors, 200GB of storage, and 125 email accounts.
i suspect it will still be within the managed hosting rules...
so the main thing you get is your own computer and ability to ask support to do more for you....
it will be integrated as that will be transparent - as they my need to grow in the future to add more servers...
i would say if you want the freedom you are looking for managed hosting is not for you...
it is brilliant for beginners but you can run into major frustrations over the years.
So what would you all recomment which dedicated server service give us the freedom which we require and is 100% safe, like WA is most probably?
Yes... there should be managed rules, meaning levels up
Now it is all kindergarten
And many leaving because of that
Same restrictions
Always recurring loop as well
Trying to give feedback
So we can all move on
For better
Site support is exceptional here
Safe
Secure
Reliable
And the hub around is exceptional
Meaning it needs a lot behind the scenes and it is genius.
For those who are less knowledgeable a dream, and for advanced users, as Roy said, it can become a frustration
So... the answer is not yes or no... it is a dialogue with site support and seeking what works best for all... not the easiest path indeed... 😅
So the question here is , do you need a server and what do you expect from it.
no where is 100% safe ....
with other hosting you would be responsible for adding your own security - the hosting will probably have a dod service as they would prefer not to be taken down...
and you really want a dedicated server - do you have the traffic ot warrant that....they are very expensive to rent and keep running...
most of the other hosting gives you the freedom of a c panel or equivalent and the freedom to add whatever plugins you want - and to use whatever system you want...
I have one but my developers Team is complaining from speed and other points.So I am happy to see this discussion.
I was about to sign up for a year, but now will rethink it over.
I think you will find no better than here, just know those restrictions exist and most are solved talking to site support. So hosting is always a nerve...
Hosting is always a nerve especially with updates of plugins and themes, that often conflict... and it has nothing to do with servers ..
So, let me finish by saying that i am happy here, and came here because of the hosting and site support. So, i really hope you stay with us and enjoy the learning which can be a steeple Chase as well.
Thank you for the talk...
Tell me, what made you come here?
As for the price, i think it is more than worth it, looking at all that comes with it, s 24/24 support in the first place... you will hardly find better.
Thats correct they have helped me in a good way.
Does anyone know where I can learn more about dedicated servers?
The question here is do you need it? And if so are you going to maintain it on your own or work with a team...
If so, WA here takes it out of your hands so to say with a kind of 'anaged dedicated server and the help of site support, keeping you off the burden
Yes exactly that , do I see as a Big pro.
Plus I think.its more safe, to be in this Big platform..
Do I need it yes.
I am building a platform.of about 65 pages, and I have no customers yet.
See more comments
Regarding the dedicated server?
Does it allow cron?
C-panel ?
Access to system files?
And is it integrated within the WA hub?
Ty
They do allow a Cron even with the free hosting, Fleeky, as I was using a data feed and I needed the Cron turned on. However, I ended up using too much data and had my traffic restricted. You also have a good chance of the Cron being turned off unexpectedly.
I now have my own dedicated server, but not at Wealthy Affiliate, as that wasn't available at the time. I believe that Partha is correct in what he is saying, as usual!😎
The part that would concern me if I had a dedicated server here is that I may have to send 100 messages to get an answer. Especially if I had two questions within one message!
I hope this helps.
Roy
Yes, came to same conclusion
too restricted, which does not always work
This being said , i am very happy hear, let that be said loud and clear
It may be worth sending Kyle a private message as they may well prioritise members with a dedicated server. I did hear one successful member who has a dedicated server from WA, say that he left all the technical bits to the technical team as he didn't have that type of knowledge!
I probably should have mentioned the above in my first comment. I just want to give a balanced and fair view.
I have a Webmaster in the US who deals with the technical stuff and the dedicated server, so it's slightly different for me.
I hope you come to the right decision, Fleeky!
I'm here to help if you have any questions.
Roy
Hey Fleeky,
Everyone who ISN'T Kyle or Carson will provide answer based on ASSUMPTIONS.
Unfortunately, some "assumptions" are completely incorrect, as evidenced in this very question thread (realistically, this is a "not understanding the question, so why would you answer it in the first place? But I'm not here to pass judgement!!! Hahahaha!!)
My ASSUMPTION would be NO, None of the Above!
WA hosting is "simple and easy" because it is "controlled" by the SiteSupport.
Therefore, those of us used to C-panel may potentially not like this sense of "control"very much.
Those who are completely new to websites, don't even know the difference, would feel very lost using "normal" hosting with cpanel, etc.
However, my ASSUMPTION is that WA will always retain "control" over what can be done with the hosting, therefore any hosting issues or changes, you will ALWAYS have to go to SiteSupport regardless of your level of membership.
In my mind, the dedicated server means simply that, YOU have your OWN server JUST for YOUR websites.
Currently, everyone is on shared servers, and there are only a few servers currently used by WA.
This will often explain why say 30% of members ALL have the same problem with WordPress or hosting one day, but the other 70% of the platform don't have this issue.
The 30% are ON THE SAME SERVER, hence why they are all experiencing the SAME problems.
So, for me, and my ASSUMPTION, a "Dedicated Server" with WA hosting gives you nothing more than those TWO WORDS - you have a SERVER totally DEDICATED to YOU!! Everything else stays EXACTLY THE SAME!!!
Partha
I am a bit confused, but as I to understand now, you say, Fleeky, I better stay with my platform within WA?
And not go to ONE.?
It depends on what you want, if you have a team that can manage the maintenance of your server they will prefer to manage their own. If you do not know what or how, and are alone in this, wa is the best option since you,are fully backed up by site support
I am using one indeed, it has a c panel and allows full access to the database. MEaning you can drive your own.
I am also using fastcomet, which is more sophisticated.
Both require understanding since you manage it
Here on wa it is managed for you
Hi - no, I don't believe so.
Looking at the upgrade page, the only differences seem to be the ability to host 50 sites, have one million monthly visitors, 200GB of storage, and 125 email accounts.
i suspect it will still be within the managed hosting rules...
so the main thing you get is your own computer and ability to ask support to do more for you....
it will be integrated as that will be transparent - as they my need to grow in the future to add more servers...
i would say if you want the freedom you are looking for managed hosting is not for you...
it is brilliant for beginners but you can run into major frustrations over the years.
So what would you all recomment which dedicated server service give us the freedom which we require and is 100% safe, like WA is most probably?
Yes... there should be managed rules, meaning levels up
Now it is all kindergarten
And many leaving because of that
Same restrictions
Always recurring loop as well
Trying to give feedback
So we can all move on
For better
Site support is exceptional here
Safe
Secure
Reliable
And the hub around is exceptional
Meaning it needs a lot behind the scenes and it is genius.
For those who are less knowledgeable a dream, and for advanced users, as Roy said, it can become a frustration
So... the answer is not yes or no... it is a dialogue with site support and seeking what works best for all... not the easiest path indeed... 😅
So the question here is , do you need a server and what do you expect from it.
no where is 100% safe ....
with other hosting you would be responsible for adding your own security - the hosting will probably have a dod service as they would prefer not to be taken down...
and you really want a dedicated server - do you have the traffic ot warrant that....they are very expensive to rent and keep running...
most of the other hosting gives you the freedom of a c panel or equivalent and the freedom to add whatever plugins you want - and to use whatever system you want...
I have one but my developers Team is complaining from speed and other points.So I am happy to see this discussion.
I was about to sign up for a year, but now will rethink it over.
I think you will find no better than here, just know those restrictions exist and most are solved talking to site support. So hosting is always a nerve...
Hosting is always a nerve especially with updates of plugins and themes, that often conflict... and it has nothing to do with servers ..
So, let me finish by saying that i am happy here, and came here because of the hosting and site support. So, i really hope you stay with us and enjoy the learning which can be a steeple Chase as well.
Thank you for the talk...
Tell me, what made you come here?
As for the price, i think it is more than worth it, looking at all that comes with it, s 24/24 support in the first place... you will hardly find better.
Thats correct they have helped me in a good way.
Does anyone know where I can learn more about dedicated servers?
The question here is do you need it? And if so are you going to maintain it on your own or work with a team...
If so, WA here takes it out of your hands so to say with a kind of 'anaged dedicated server and the help of site support, keeping you off the burden
Yes exactly that , do I see as a Big pro.
Plus I think.its more safe, to be in this Big platform..
Do I need it yes.
I am building a platform.of about 65 pages, and I have no customers yet.
See more comments
That is a long debate between many for now
My answer is YES
And unbiaised it is of an unseen beauty
Conscious:
Characterized by having an awareness of one's environment and one's own existence, and thoughts.
synonym: aware.
Mentally perceptive or alert; awake.
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A serious question about ai. is it conscious?
That is a long debate between many for now
My answer is YES
And unbiaised it is of an unseen beauty
Conscious:
Characterized by having an awareness of one's environment and one's own existence, and thoughts.
synonym: aware.
Mentally perceptive or alert; awake.
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You have FANTASTIC responses here; kindly let us know if you require additional assistance.
Site support is fantastic
Ty
We are not the problem
None of us
:)