Making Site Comments - Websites to Avoid?
Hi Everyone,
We complain when comments are not good enough, when they do not address the subject of the article we are asking comments for, and then, you sometimes get this...
Here is a comment I made and a rejection comment to the comment, some guidance from Kyle and Carson, and my final reaction or action...
Notice of Disapproval
Here is the comment, notice of disapproval, reasoning, and what I should do better (?), etc....
Oops, the following comment was not approved by the person that you submitted it to.
My Comment:
"The PepperJam Network name piques my curiosity, as it is rather unusual. I think of food right away for some reason! They do have some big companies working with them, and signing up is easy enough.
As you say, it all comes down to whether or not they will want to work with you. If you are starting out with a website, it is unlikely that they would consider doing that because they want traffic (makes sense). This seems like a platform that is suited for the established affiliate marketer that is already driving traffic to their sites.
Most certainly you can learn to get more traffic using the Wealthy Affiliate platform, and you can also get started with a platform that will likely have vendors willing to work with you, even if you are just starting out. It can take some time to get things rolling with affiliate marketing, but if you stick with it and have good training, anyone can make it.
Thanks for the heads up on the PepperJam Network, I have made some notes in my journal, as there may be some synergies that are possible with some of my niche websites".
The following reason was noted as the reason for this happening.
"Sorry I had to reject your comment. You're basically just repeating what I listed in my article which isn't adding value."
[My Comment: ok...so do not add anything from the post in the comment...check!]
What was wrong?
Quotes from Message I received:
"This can happen on occasion and when it does, you shouldn't be too upset by it. Rather you should consider the reason why it was disapproved and make the appropriate changes to the way you comment moving forward.
A few recommendations that I have for making sure that your SiteComments offered get approved 100% of the time are:
"SiteComments Tip #1: Make Your Comment 100% Relevant to the post
When you are using the SiteComments platform, your goal is to add to the dialogue of the content and to be highly relevant to the content within the post.
If the post is about "how to lose weight fast online", then your comment should be about this exact topic. Ask a question about losing weight fast, offer insight into your experiences within the topic, share an opinion on the subject matter, even do some research and provide some interesting data you find online in respect to your findings.
And make sure you read or at least scan the content of the post. If you don't, then it is going to come across and be very obvious in your comment. The key is to offer quality, you don't need to be an expert on the topic, you just need to engage in the topic itself and leave a good comment.
SiteComments Tip #2: Be Thorough With Your Comment
Remember, the goal here is to add value [subjective concept apparently?] to overall dialogue on someone's website. Read their post, then make your comment based on the material that you read and try to be as thorough as possible with your comment. A comment that is 2-5 paragraphs in length is ideal.
Something that can help is asking questions, sharing relevant experiences you have had, or offering your opinion on the subject. These can all be effective methods that will naturally lead to a much more thorough comment.
Remember the better the comments you offer to others, the better the comments you will receive in return [except in rejection reasons?] (and the higher your rating within the SiteComments platform).
SiteComments Tip #3: Don't Offer Design/Grammar/Site Feedback
Don't confuse the SiteComments platform with the SiteFeedback platform. You are offering people and engaging comment on their post, you are not critiquing their website. Comments like "nice site, you should fix your design, you have a spelling error, your theme is good, etc) are not appropriate.
And of course, if you ever have any questions about how to best use this platform, do drop either one of us a Private Message within the Wealthy Affiliate member's area and we will be more than happy to give you a hand...".
Bottom Line...
If only I were a super affiliate I would know better than to add anything from the content in the post to my comment's content (?)...
This is not the first time I am adding to my 'stay away from' list for commenting. The list now grows to three I avoid...
The strange thing is that the list only has WA super-affiliates on it - why would that be the case?
It seems they are looking for perfection (or comments that don't mention what is in the content of the post?)...
The reasoning and rather nondescript rationale for this rejection is also a bit flippant IMO...I wish as much time had been taken in making the rejection comment as the time I spent reading that article and making a comment on it...
My flippant note to self: I think I have to reject the rejection... : )
Hmmmm...The word may be 'sanctimonius' I am looking for here...
"A sanctimonious person might think they are holy, but their attitude comes across more like "holier-than-thou." Though sanctimonious people might try to act like saints, their actions are far from pure or holy, which just makes them sound/act like hypocrites..".
Not sure, but no more wasting my time reading their posts, or writing a comment, my time has a value as well...
Cheers!
Dave : )
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Hi Dave
Great to see you here! ;-)
This is exactly the reason why I am hesitant and haven't yet offered comments on the Comment Platform.
I always smile when I get to a website and read the comments, since one can easily pick which ones came from WA and which ones are organic comments - the difference is most of the time very obvious.
Wishing you an awesome day, Dave!
Sharlee (Chocolate IceCream)
Hello, Sharlee...
This was not the first post in over a year that I have envisioned making, but there it is. What to do, lol?
Yes, this one caught me off-guard, and seeing it first thing in the morning set me off just a tad.
Now that some time has passed I feel the same way!
For the most part, that system is working, and those that are expecting us to read minds will just get overlooked by me...
No stress, no worries, I have bigger fish to fry (as you know)...
Cheers and have a great day!
Dave : )
Hi Dave
> No stress, no worries, I have bigger fish to fry (as you know)...
[wink] Yip, the last thing you need to get on an empty stomach. ;-)
Wishing you an exciting and joyful rest of the day, Dave!
Sharlee (Chocolate IceCream)
Thank you for sharing Dave & I agree my friend!
The one and only comment that I have ever had disapproved was from a "Super Affiliate" for Wealthy Affiliate and that was about 3 years ago ..........
I always appreciate and enjoy your comments Dave as you definitely do indeed read the article and comment with value.
You are one of the very best my friend, thank you for all that you do and keep doing what you're doing.
Tony
Hi, Tony...
Thanks for stopping through and adding your thoughts on this rather touchy subject...Most definitely something worthy of discussion...
I feel the same about you Tony keep doing what you are doing, the more people that we can get pointed in the right direction with this online marketing business, the better...
Cheers!
Dave : )
Finally someone brings this up.
As a site commenter, I've met a few of this comment requester that really seek for 'perfect' comment so much, that I feel the comment is not coming from 'real and genuine person' who really want to ask or comment something from the article.
Some of my comment was rejected because of absurd reasons. One of them is such as my WA ranking is not high enough and I didn't participate too much in WA platform (commenting, live chat, etc).
I wish as a commenter, we have a choice to 'blacklist' this requester. We 'pay' with time when reading their article and writing the comment. Clicking 'not interested' to skip everytime I met their websites can hurt my comment stat, but this is still the only alternative I can think about.
Sorry to hear that your precious time got wasted for leaving that good quality comment.
Cheers,
Ferdinand
Hi, Ferdinand...
Yes, this is the other side of the comment feature debate that often gets lost in the discussion...
It is worthy of bringing it up, if for nothing more than having people who indiscriminately reject comments because it does not meet their "standard" to rethink a bit...
No issue on the wasted time, I would rather have wasted it on something else though...
An 'ignore author' window on the feature would help to avoid checking who is the author for those requesting comments...
To avoid hitting the "not interested" button, I just wait, refresh, and over time a new comment request will come up..,
But that too is wasted time...The 'ignore author' button would solve that, you wouldn't be shown their requests...
Cheers!
Dave : )
You need to read what the person requesting the comment is asking for. I am not a Super Affiliate but if I am asking for questions about the topic I don't want to see a repeat of what I already said. I ask for a question then that is what I want and it's for a reason. if the request checks off all the comment option then disapproves you then shame on them. I pay for comment credits and ask for specific comments and if it is not what I ask for then I will not approve. Your comment looked good but you did not reveal exactly what kind of comment they were looking for.
Fair point...I pay too in the time I spend reading and writing these comments when I could be doing something else...Specificity is not delineated beyond the basic areas you want to have added to comments when you request them, however...
That is when subjective evaluation comes in...Does this comment address the content in the post, how does it do so, is it okay to have a different opinion on your post in the comment section, are commenters allowed to add in any banter, etc.
I also 'pay' for comments I request from time to time and realize that opinions are like our fourth point of contact, everybody has one...Perhaps I am the anomaly here but at some point, common sense is lost in the pursuit of perfection...
That wastes everyone's time...Much like this post...I could be doing something else right now, but I do think it is important to bring up this side of the comment debate...
By the way, I am a big believer in equal opportunity so additions to the 'stay away from' list I mention can come from any participant...It just happens that the three who have made the list are all super affiliates...Pure chance...maybe...
Cheers!
Dave : )
Point taken and a valid one too. I also have approved comments that were not what I asked for because they were very detailed and relevant. This is a huge community and there will always be a few.
Hi Dave, Your point is valid. Your comment is wonderful and very much genuine.
Better report such websites.
Possible psychology may be because their comments get disapproved by others. So they tend to disapprove the comment.
Anyways, we always get 1 odd out of 20 even :)
Hey There, Akshay...
There is room for debate on this side of the comment feature. I have had three comments rejected over the years and none for reasons I consider to be valid...
It is good to discuss so it may provide more balance by those that provide and those that receive comments using the feature we have here on Wealthy Affiliate...
I agree, 1 odd out of 20 even...
Cheers!
Dave : )
I’ve been rejected before too, for what I think was not a good reason. I think that some posters have an idea in mind of what they want a commenter to say, and when we can’t read their minds they reject what we say, whether it’s a good comment or not. Fortunately, I think those narrow-minded people are few.
Grant
Yes, I have had three comments rejected out of I think over 1500 altogether over the years the Site Comment feature has been around (I would have to check to make sure how many I have made)...
It is strange that only the super affiliates are looking for...perfection on their pages? Is that what people are going to provide in the real world?
Not sure if the issue is SEO on this either, the idea is to get that perfect comment that is a murky goal at best, and not knowing what the expectation is, better to not waste your time...
There are plenty of other websites to choose from...
I would like to see an option to opt out of author's websites, that would save me time...That might be a good feature to add within that tool...
Cheers!
Dave : )
Thank you in advance. I will be working on that later when I come to that part of training. Thanks for the idea or example cause I am working on that. I will be following you.Thanks
This is not rocket science, but there are times when things get a little out of whack, and it goes both ways when it comes to these comments...
This is an example of the other side (i.e. not enough verbiage, not mentioning keywords, grammar errors versus not adding value, repeating what is in the content, etc.)...
Sometimes just best not to waste your time.
Cheers!
Dave : )
HI Dave,
Good to hear from you again. I hope you are keeping well.
I am sorry your comment got rejected. I can't see any issue with it. Personally I used to be a heavy user of that platform but I slowed down significantly when WA started paying cash credit. It's almost like the Authors started looking for people to be "co-authors" on their blog post now that money is potentially involved. Personally I take the attitude that a "random stranger may have stumbled upon my blog post and wants to leave a comment". So on that basis, I am very tolerant of most comments that people put forward.
Sorry this happened to you. Onwards and upwards.
Yes indeed, onwards and upwards...Staying as well as possible here! I wish the same for you and yours! : )
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Good Morning Dave,
You are a very good and thorough commenter and I had the pleasure of reading many comments from you on my websites.
Recently I also had a comment denied. I went to the website to see what comments had made it. I would call them the more "flattering" ones. Personally too many, fantastic, great, etc thrown in makes it unnatural but some people seem to like just that.
I have started with also reading the About Me page to see if I can pick up something there to add to my comment.
Greetings from the south of Spain, Taetske
Good morning to you, Taetske!
Thanks for your kind words, and I do try to add something more than a template type of comment to these articles I comment on.
There are many that are of interest (like you always post) and I have no issue adding in my thoughts...
I will have to figure out some more of those adjectives like the ones you mention, but I agree with you...
They sound fake if overused...
The About Me page is a requirement, especially if I suspect that the website might be authored by one on my list...
Greetings back to you, and have a wonderful, great, best-ever, beautiful, and lovely day! (kidding, I do wish you all the best!)...
Cheers!
Dave : )
That best-ever, beautiful, and lovely day I had yesterday as I had to add one year.
We had lunch in the lovely marina on the coast.
I got a rock-tumbler as a present, now that will be fun as I love stones.
As they would not send from the U:S we finally found it in Italy.
Greetings from the south of Spain, Taetske
Wow! Happy belated Birthday! It sounds like a perfect day and the rock tumbler is cool too. I had an uncle and aunt that were into that, and there sure are a lot of stones in Minnesota and Ontario to tumble (very pretty ones)... So I know this is impolite, but are you 30 now? I am so jealous!!! Enjoy that gift.... : )
Thank you Dave.
My better half got 4 bags of different bulk rough, exciting rocks straight from the mines, ruff sapphire, ruby, and 2 different sources for emeralds. Then, here at home, I have quite a few personally found stones so it will be fun to see what comes out of it.
On our next trip to the U.S., I would like to go diamond searching in https://www.arkansasstateparks.com/parks/crater-diamonds-state-park/digging-for-diamonds, there is a small change we might be able to go this year.
On my profile is my age, I added the extra year yesterday. I like the phrase: what is in a name? well, that applies to age as well.
All the best, Taetske
Hi Taetske
Happy belated birthday! ;-)
Your photo arrested my attention, ;-) LOL, so I had a nosy! That tumbler looks very interesting - Hubby's granddad loved doing that! I too love stones!
May your "best-ever, beautiful and lovely day" continue to be that way every day of the year!
Wishing you all of the very best (and many beautiful stones!)!
Sharlee (Chocolate IceCream)
LOL!! Dave! You have such a wicked sense of humor - love it! ;-)) LOL!
Good Morning Sharlee,
That was a sweet nosy, thank you for your wishes.
On my website, I started with stones but then I kind of floated away writing more about environmental issues. I just widened my niche. Oh well, it all is related to Mother Earth and I write on things that I find interesting or worry me.
Greetings from the south of Spain, Taetske
Hi Taetske
I only saw your reply now - sorry I have missed it!
Like Hubby always say: "What is the good of a mind if you can't change it?" Same with niches, if you ask me... what's the good if you can't broaden it or include the things you care about? ;-)
The thing is, there will be others who will also enjoy and be interested what you are interested in. ;-)
Wishing you an awesome day, Taetske!
Sharlee (Chocolate IceCream)
Good Morning Sharlee,
Do not worry, I also sometimes miss things.
When I started with my website very soon afterward I realized it would not all fit into one. So I decided I needed a second website in the first week I started Now it does not fit into 2 websites. On each site, I have quite a few categories and each category could very well be an individual site.
What can I do? I will just leave it like it is as having 10 sites would be more hassle I would be able to cope with.
Greetings from the south of Spain, Taetske
Good morning Taetske! ;-)
(Evening here in our corner of paradise...)
To be perfectly honest... I LOVE websites where one can dive in and find plenty of different things! It is like opening a treasure trove... never knowing what else you are going to discover.
And over the years I have found many interesting things that way, that I otherwise probably never would have known about!
It takes all kinds of people to make the world go round (how boring would it have been otherwise) - so YOUR readers will LOVE your website, discovering what you have in every category and nosing around... while the others will come in, savor what they are interested in, and go again. ;-)
Wishing you an awesome day in lovely Spain, Taetske!
Sharlee (Chocolate IceCream)
Thank you Sharlee,
I like that, treasure trove and hope some people will think my websites are just that.
Same to you, have a great day, Taetske