New Observation on Wealthy Affiliate System

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Having experienced comment disapprovals in the past that led to being barred from using the comment section is a learning curve. For thrice I have been in this situation and as of the moment my threshold has just been restored.

But don't you know that your comments will no longer be disapproved anymore? Yes, I have seen it with my two eyes.

Today, coming back from outside activity I made two comments on two sites. The first one was successfully rendered and posted but the second one was not. But I'm so happy with this new thing which I did not see in the past. This is what it said on my second comment on a certain article:

On the first one this did not appear and my comment was posted and I'm so glad to see that happened. I thought I already perfected giving a comment only to know that I still have to learn a lot.

But the new thing here is that once it passed on the scrutiny of this system and it is posted you have nothing to worry if it will be disapproved or not. It has passed the standard of WA system and nobody should have the gut to disapprove it.

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If and when anybody disapproves a comment that has passed the standard of WA he/she has to be penalized of doing so. He/she has no reason to do it.

There is no place for vengeance here, no place for an enemy or a friend. It will all be a good thing for all of us. For the new ones they will start and finish everything in 100% rating because everything had been polished for the benefit of everyone.

So this is a plus to the SiteRubix where everybody is happy about.


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Good to see this, Jimmy :)

Thanks Carol.

well said again
I totally agree with you
cheers PB

Thank you Phil.

Giving comments is another learning curve. i had 2/3 occasions being disapproved.

it needs an extra observation.

Thanks for sharing.

Thank you, my comment rating is 69%.

Not sure why your comments aren't being approved. What's important is to not give feedback in your comments, but instead to put yourself in the role of someone who has just found the article as the answer to their google search. So comment on the content and even ask a question or two just as you would if you had found the article on your own and were interested in the content.

I personally don't disapprove any comments. I don't know why anyone would do that when you have the "edit" button right there and can replace a bad comment in two seconds with a perfect comment that can say all the right things and then reply to that with internal links and more.

Hope it doesn't continue for you :)

well said Eric
I could'nt agree with you more
especially when we have taken the time to go through their post, read it and then write the comment
there is a certain amount of time and work involved in giving comments, so I think that should be considered also.
Cheers PB

I hope so Eric. I have to practice a lot.

I think it's up to the website owner to approve or disapprove comments. The WA comment platform is just a filter. I have disapproved comments in the past, but now I am more inclined to just edit them and make the comment what I want it to be. It's a freebie.

Hello my friend and today I got a comment rejected and a letter from kyle explaining why - I did not put much input!!!!

What can I say

Paul

Number Five is Alive - Need More Input.

Sorry I had too. :)

LOL I would love to do it again so is that possible

Paul

LOL...

And why did SiteRubix tool approved it and was published? It came and pass from WA's tool it should not be questioned by the Master Teacher Kyle. And that's what I am saying here that when a comment was approved by SiteRubix that should be final because it was scrutinized before it was published.

That's a good question Paul. Twice today I am stumped, another 50 times or so and it'll be a normal day. lol

Please find out as I will do it again no problem buddy

Paul

Well, this is new to me, Thanks for the info.

You are welcome Nick. We are learning from one thing to another thing in a given time.

The problem with that is there are those who still get comments and site feedback mixed up and will post site feedback in the comments section where it should not be and the person who asked for the comments in the first place should not be penalized if they decide to disapprove that comment. Just because a comment passes the unique system does not mean it is automatically the right comment for the post and should not be disapproved.

I once asked for a couple of comments on one of my posts and one of the comments absolutely surprised me and I definitely had to disapprove it because not only did it not have anything to do with the post I was requesting comments on, it had absolutely nothing to do with my website at all.

My website is a gaming site and this person gave me a comment about gym equipment. I was nice about it though and told the commenter in the disapproval section that they may have gotten my website confused with another one and suggested that he find the correct website that he probably meant to comment on in the first place.

If a comment has to be disapproved, I believe the commenter should be given every chance to correct the issue and so it is imperative that you post a valid reason why it was disapproved and let them know that they can be given a chance to comment again.

Meaning it is useless to have this box appearing and reminding anyone in giving a comment. It is clear that this tool is examining and verifying the uniqueness of the written thing if it is a comment or not and when this tool has approved it it should be a comment when it appears in a website.

If this tool approves it and it doesn't appear as a comment in a website then WA has to remove that tool because it is useless.

It's not a useless tool, as its main purpose is to prevent repeat comments and is something that sets a comment apart from others, but it does not prevent relevancy to a post. I can make my comment unique from others by commenting on something that doesn't have anything to do with the post or website or talks about the site as a whole and not the post I wanted comments about.

Now with that in mind, here's where I think a person SHOULD be penalized for disapproving a comment. I once commented about a product that this person was promoting in a post of his and I said that I was very interested in the product, but I wanted to know about the cost of it as very little was said about that aspect of it.

My comment was disapproved because he said I should not question the price of the product and that this product is guaranteed to change lives and the price does not matter and I should get it. That is a HORRIBLE way to do business especially with someone who is already interested in the product you're promoting and inquiring more information about it. I think there should be some penalization in that regard as the comment was definitely relevant to the topic at hand and was inquiring about more information.

That's really my point. If the comment passed over the standard of a tool to be considered as a comment it should not be disapproved.

The person disapproving the comment has another set of standard in his mind. He should abide with what has been set as a standard and SiteRubix is a tool of standard.

What I'm trying to say is, I don't think the tool checks the relevancy of a comment to the post at hand that is needing the comments. The standard of the tool, if I'm correct is that it has to at least be 50 characters long and not a repeat of other possible comments or not repeat everything in the post in order to pass the system for WA.

So a comment might pass WA's system because it LOOKS different from other comments or is unique from other comments, but not that it is necessarily relevant to the post or information at hand and that's why they give the person requesting the comments final say in approving or disapproving a comment because it may or may not fit with what they were looking for in regards to the topic at hand.

I go back to the example I gave where I had to disapprove a comment because it had nothing to do with my post or website. The comment the person made MET the requirements for WA to be a comment because it met the requirement of being 50 characters long and was not a repeat comment, but again I don't think the tool checks the RELEVANCY of the comment to the post or topic at hand, which again, is why I believe they give the person the final say into approving or disapproving a comment.

I'm not trying to argue with you as I do understand what you're saying because I've had some of my comments disapproved as well, but what I'm trying to say is, the tool has only a minimum set of requirements for a comment to be a comment and I don't think relevancy is part of that minimum set. It just has to be 50 characters long and not repeating of other comments and that's it. It prevents one word comments that means nothing such as "Cool", "Wonderful", "Dumb", etc. and the tool does its job at doing that.

I certainly think the tool could be refined or maybe use algorithms (if possible) to say "Hey, this has nothing to do with the post or topic at hand and will not pass our system. Please change your comment to be relevant to the topic."

I believe that tool is for that purpose not only on uniqueness but relevant and engaging.

I think you're expecting quite a bit more of the comment checking software than may be warranted. Relevance and engagement can be very subjective areas to assess. Human judgement will disagree on many comments. I wouldn't expect such sophistication to have been implemented in the comment checking software.

Maybe you are right, I expect too much and I rely on the SiteRubix comment tool as complete that can approve and consider a comment as standard and should not be disapproved by persons.

I agree with what you said but I also have had my comments not approved. Also, when I tried to leave a comment it would not accept it as it said it was too short, not enough content, so I added more and then the author of the site dissaproved it because it was to long, to much detail and they only wanted short comments on the site. I have for now stopped giving comments.

A comment that passed the standard scrutiny of WA in its uniqueness should not be disapproved by the site's owner. Otherwise, WA will be the one to be penalized of checking and verifying the uniqueness of the content. End the end it is WA that penalizes us, it is not the owner of the site.

WA should defend anyone that passed the standard and being disapproved.

I think the WA standard is just that, the WA standard. Each individual has his or her own standards and rightly so as we are individuals after all. If we are penalized for disapproving comments on our sites, well I wouldn't use the system and I'd find it hard to believe any else would want to use it either.

On the other side it makes sense for our WA platform to give credit for unique quality comments and help those that are leaving comments that are below par. After all, we are all here to learn and to monetize our business's from what we learn so penalizing someone for not doing so good seems reverse logic.

As for those that just try to use the system to get credits by blatantly giving poor comments, well . . . that's abuse of our platform and I imagine would be handled accordingly.

What is it that your getting dinged for when leaving comments Jimmy? What have you tried to correct alleged shortcomings? Do you need help still in writing unique quality engaging comments and site content? I may be able to help and so may others. We're all in this together.

ROCK ON!
E

Thank you for your interest and openness to help. I like that. The issue that had been gripping most of the community members is is being penalized and taken out of their privilege to use the comment section because of disapproval by the site owner.

I don't see any reason for disapproval now because when WA disapproves it it will not be posted. When WA approves it because it has checked and verified the uniqueness it will be posted.

You're welcome Jimmy.

I noticed that another member mentioned folks getting confused between Site Comments and Site Feedback, I don't see this ever going away as an issue as new members come aboard they will go through a learning curve as well so there will be some level of error.

I don't see a problem with Site Feedback being automatically approved after being vetted by WA, but this is not and should not ever be the issue with Site Comments as the final approval of these comments is ultimately held by the owner of the website.

If Site Comments were automatically approved and published on your website without your permission it would then be possible for anyone to write anything they chose on your site. This does not make for a positive outcome.

I agree with you. There are comments that are directly posted in the website as visitors read the content. But in SiteRubix here at WA it should be final. Once it has been approved by SiteRubix Standard as a comment it should be accepted by the site owner as a comment.

I admire your passion for this subject though I respectfully disagree. Only because you (or me) are the site owner even if it is a SiteRubix site and you should have the final say as to what goes on your site because your site is you in essence. Your profile is on it not WA's. Your content is on it, not WA's, and most importantly you are responsible for it not WA. So if I left a comment on your site that made you or your site look bad that slid through the WA vetting system you would be responsible for the outcome, good or bad.

I feel it comes down to responsibility.

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